Ohhh! That's good! At least the families will have support.
What you said about learning from the incident is true indeed. Part of the reason why I can't really be bothered with the whole CH support rally is because of that. I feel like nothing good is coming out of it.
The satire that they do isn't as good at getting the point across as SP, tbh.


Agreed.


That's true about how violence will only backfire. CH's violence is not physical however. They are at fault as well (just not for their deaths - for clarification). Their violence is the silent kind and their satire isn't doing good (other than at the present moment for 'freedom of speech').

I'd quote you myself again, but it's just from my previous post which you can read above.

It's the circle of hate. Sad that some people can't just all get along but I accept it as nature.

I'm mindboggled when Christian right-wingers in particular blame Islam for terrorist actions, or when people say 'but CHRISTIANS would never blah blah blah violence...' Christians would and have, but the problem lies in the human brain, not in some words written in a book. If people weren't shooting journalists, they would likely just be drinking themselves into stupors and beating their wives.

I am pretty sure they are already but wise words. I sill can´t believe that people were surprised that an anti-religion magazine was anti-religion. Have some of you seen their covers ? Just go to google-san.

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Jfc...don't know why I'm acting surprised though. Every time there is a thread here on some moral and/or social injustice, quite a few of you bigots come raging through the posts with pseudo intellect and pseudo logic. Yuck



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No one gives a shit what trite garbage you write here.

i think religion
and
silly magazines that print insulting material should both be banned

since corruption and hate seems to fuel the human race
we should be forecully educated in the ways of peace and harmony
revolution?

we have bigger issues in the world than 12 60+yo men got shot
they wrote offensive shit for a small "elite" of "leftwing" "intellectuals"

what the other guy did
was alot worse
he took hostages in a shop in a jewish district and killed ppl becouse they where jewish
that is a problem
the other two atleast had a clear and to some degree a logical target

when "terrorists" attack normal ppl just becouse they belong to a certain group of ppl it is VERY BAD

like Boko Haram killing 2000 christians just becouse they where christians
that was not really interesting to report on in western media
for various reasons

As opposed to actual intellectuals such as yourself?
And it's really funny you're calling me a bigot, especially considering how we're discussing a group of people who're killing other people just for holding a different opinion. Such infallible logic.

Way to contribute to the topic, btw.

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The entire Republic of Chechnya now as an oppinion on CH: http://wsj.com/articles/tens-of-thousands-protest-against-french- magazine-charlie-hebdo-in-chechen-capital-1421673775.
How are the news in your countrys looking like this week ?
Here in germany the news still devote 50% or more to CH mixed with Pegida of course.

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Why are you still here defending your bigoted opinions? Don't you have a white power rally to attend??

In comparison to you I'm definitely an intellectual. I mean you are condemning a group of people based on the actions of a select few. And what makes it worse is that you don't apply this to any other group, like idk CHRISTIANS. What about the shit they're doing in Africa or Iraq or basically everywhere.

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Did you even read that post you quoted or did your beady little eyes only register the first sentence?
I'd put the self-praise on hold if I were you. At least until you learn how to read things in their entirety.
I'm not even expecting you to read the follow-up posts, just the one you so graciously quoted.
But I very much doubt you're going to do that.

I'd rather not, but I'll reiterate. My problem is clearly with the Muslims who follow their obviously non-peaceful religion. I'm not saying the other big religions are any better, but they have the benefit of being older, and thus past the murderous fanaticism and literal interpretation, at least in part.
I personally think the people who follow any religion are delusional and even intentionally dangerous (just look at cults - same principle on a smaller scale), but as long as they don't kill anyone, what can you really do?
If you compare it to Christianity, there's not much difference, really. One prophet tells you to kill infidels/apostates yourself, while the other says god (who might require the help of his loyal subjects) will kill you.

Unfortunately, the "select few" you refer to aren't very few and those are the people we're talking about.The truth of the of the matter is, about quarter of the world's population is Muslim, with a big part living a very strict way of life very much influenced by religion. After all, what other religious group we need to watch out from if we make fun of their religion (or even just have a difference of pinion)? What other religious group usually does the terror? I wonder why they migrate to the clearly much more secular Europe and are surprised that the people there have other priorities and ways of life. What other group constantly wages bloody wars against the "not religious enough" in their own countries?

What "shit" are you referring to? The wars or the missionaries?
The wars the US wages, while I don't agree with, don't have a religious reason,
not as far as I'm aware.
The missionaries though, yes, I agree. The evangelicals kill via proxy by spreading their insane "values" to people who take them seriously and start killing each other for not being religious enough or somehow "straying" from the righteous path either by belonging to another religion or even being gay. That's the problem with "young" religions.

My point is, no religion is truly "benign", but right now, Islam is the most dangerous and volatile.
The "moderate" people shouldn't be held responsible by any means, but they should take a good look at the religion they follow. The terrorists just do a better job following it literally.

If you made it this far in this post - congratulations. We should celebrate.
And if not... Oh well, I tried.

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wow, the misconceptions here are INSANELY wild.

the people who bombed ch, boko haram, the taliban, and al qaeda, etc, ARE. NOT. FOLLOWING. ISLAM. they're just doing it in the NAME of islam, which is completely different. you have nutjobs bombing abortion clinics all the time in the name of jesus christ, do you really think other christians are going to acknowledge that person's "christianity"?

people do shit in the name of religion all the time. doesn't mean religion is responsible for it. i know MANY muslims who follow their religion like they were taught and nowhere is it in their goals to kill us all. are you saying MILLIONS of muslims are not following "real" islam and therefore aren't trying to kill people? i'd be more quick to say that it's the terrorists who are simply using a fucked up interpretation of islam to brainwash others into inciting violence. because they want POWER. that's all it is in the end, a mad grab for power in politically destabalized countries (which the US caused in the 90s btw. oops, our bad). i wouldnt put it past these people sell pork and beer and figures of mohammed if it meant they would gain control of the nation. islam just happens to be the dominant religion in the area and just needs a few tweaks to get vulnurable young people to come to their side and die for their machinations.

i mean, christianity did that during the crusades in order to gain more land in the name of the pope *eyeroll*

tl;dr: stop blaming a religion and a group of people for what some nutjob power crazy people did. you're just giving people more incentive to join the crazies. if we had more compassion then maybe we wouldn't be in this pickle.

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