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1:07 am, Sep 11 2015
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Is it just me or lately more Korean writers are getting better than Japanese writers in manga. From what I read ones done by Koreans are more enjoyable, entertaining, and pleasant to read than the ones done by most Japanese writers. No "what the hell factors" (something that is not suppose to happen happens) in the Korean ones. Even the perverted ones are also more enjoyable than most Japanese ones. In most Japanese ones you can expect rape, mind break, loose or instable character and there is no pleasantness or enjoyability to read those. What do you say?

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i think its because here only the best and most popular manhwas shows up or gets mentioned here
as compared to mangas all kind of mangas gets mentioned and they all are popular in certain type of audience.
but its still a guess biggrin

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2:23 am, Sep 11 2015
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Are you sure. I was thinking there are a significant number of Japanese writers twisted not right in the head compared to Korean ones. You see this very often in manga where manga is going in one direction in a good way (if he/she continued in that direction would of been a very good story) then he/she completely turns it around in the worst possible way. They could of chose a direction that is a better or at a crossroads but they choose the worst one not logically possible in that setting.

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graffhead is correct as we get maybe 20% of all recent web Manhwa so let´s not throw an exponential larger industry down a drain. It is also very noticeable that web toon distributers started to double down on full on porn in 2014/15 to play the devil’s advocate after refusing to feature full on nudity for years as web comics are as disposable medium as you can get and sex comics are perfect for that. The usual standard of low budget art and the high amount of unexperienced creators who come and go as the wind are a problem too but the Manhwa scene overall highly profited from going near digital only as the amount of such on my reading list multiplied. It is also easer to break into the scene which leads to fresh voices but getting actually recognition and adaptations is still hard and making money even harder (most mangaka are the opposite of wealty too i will admit) so we aren’t there yet. The Korean comic industry is now final relevant and in a way better place right now then it was years ago and Japanese publication houses should look close here as their reliance on printed media is stared to hurt in their wallets.
This is where i will leave it and Blind Faith Descent is a good candidate to show off how good current web Manhwa can get.

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I actually felt it was the opposite, so much that since some years ago I have been trying to avoid manhwa since their plots tend to devolve into insanity pretty quickly.
To be sure, that also happens in some manga, but I had a series of very bad experience with manhwa and so I mostly stopped reading them.

Post #671368 - Reply to (#671366) by residentgrigo
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Even the ones that went full nudity happen to be more pleasant than the Japanese ones that only went as far as partial nudity. Pleasant meaning story wise. Japanese ones really go dark or a complete 180 from how it started in the middle making most of them unpleasant.

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I have yet to hit one like that. There were some really close to that few years ago but overall they stayed mostly on the positive side. I seen a lot worse in Manga. I haven't seen anything like the manwha few years ago recently. Most of what I seen recently were enjoyable.

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3:58 pm, Oct 3 2015
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I just saw the headline Luke Skywalker Meets Ben Kenobi for First Time in Korean 'Star Wars' Webcomic for Star Wars (8/10) on the Hollywoodreporter eek .
Could any of you have imagine such a report on a mere Korean comic even a year ago? The new Marvel main series and the Darth Vader parallel story are better publications but i like and read it too. It´s actually the best direct comic/manga adaptation of Ep. IV (through VI i guess) and Disney could have chosen any avenue or commissioned another half cooked manga yet they went the Web-Manhwa route so the medium may be bigger and more future proof than even i could have even imagined. Slow clap.
(The pr0n implosion though has my permission to slow down or at least to start producing content of even basic value.)

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(something that is not suppose to happen happens)


This is a big feature of manga! It likes to get close to breaking some taboo. That's one way the mangaka keep people interested! Below is a quote that explains it (and the source). Meanwhile, the USA is getting more and more puritanical, driven by feminism, I think. I'm an old man. I've seen this change happening in the USA. Manga is the only refuge from it.


From Japan Times 2014-03:
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/life/2013/09/24/people/producer-ge ts-deep-inside-the-otaku-heart/
"Japan is the land of freedom. We can draw wild and sexy characters, dress up in fantastic cosplay (costume play) and act out our fantasies. All forms of expression are accepted because in real life we have the common sense not to do anything bad. We have a strong moral code, so we can lose it in fantasy and in art."

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You can go to prison for even showing a penis or vagina in porn or art in Japan while none such thing would happen to you in the US or Western Europe. There are even guidelines how dildos need to be drawn! (Not a joke...)
Underage nudity is also nothing special in non Japanese comics too while the last 2 Eisner winners have been highly sexualy explicit. Are the bestselling Saga and Sex Criminals even published in Japan and both have more female than male readers.
Showtime is currently airing Masters of Sex while the (trashy) Fifty Shades of Grey novel is currently setting all sorts of records. I saw age 0 rated movies here in Germany with full on genitalia (e.g. Broken Flowers) and political manga are basically nonexistent currently.

I thus view the current manga market as the definition of a censorship culture (i will admit that a society could never function without censorship) and here is even proof:
Manga Artist Megumi Igarashi Appears in Court on Obscenity Charges (i show up in the comments...) or Comic Mega Store Magazine Suspended Due to Obscenity Probe.
Here is what i meant by being political: Man Who Landed Drone on Prime Minister's Roof Moonlights as a Manga Artist. My favorite comic author Grant Morrison though wrote a comic about murdering Margaret Thatcher with Swithin's Day and got a positive reception and real publishing partner!

Censorship guideline are actual getting stricter by the year and all sorts of manga and Eroge (the abysmal YU-NO comes to mind) are now basically unpublishable in their original form. Have fun looking forward to the Tokyo Olympics is all i have to say and Korea has less strict censorship rules but they are still not ideal. I love the medium or i wouldn't have a Berserk tattoo but putting it on any a high pedestal is nonsense.

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Why would all Korean writers suddenly "get better"?
Is there a very specific, localized virus? laugh

But in all seriousness, I have noticed no such thing.
If you enjoy Korean works more than Japanese, well, good for you then.
Needless to say, taste is subjective.


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Critics consensus and word of mouth make and break fiction but i also don´t think that these are getting "better" per se and only the amount of high quality work is increasing overall. The Korean web toon industry isn´t there yet and won´t catch up that fast but it´s now a viable candidate in my eyes. What i wonder the most about is how the compensation side works as i am always a supporter of self publishing and hope that i am not promoting financial ruin... Time will tell but greeting one of these noticed by a giant media outlet and filling MU reading lists left at right is nothing to sneeze at.
Some are now even being adapted into films so the visibility can only grow but don´t ask me how the actually print side is doing. Go web toons.

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As NightSwan mentioned everyone has different tastes and what i like others might not. i enjoy reading both mangas ad manwhas, including webtoons. i think tha now that the korean industry of comics is trying to expand there are a lot of manwhas being translated by them and legaly distributed by web. [url]webtoon.com[url] is an example of what i mean.

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