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8:33 am, Dec 5 2015
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This week's poll by StephKuran is a bit harder to pin down. Imagine your favorite manga character was changed by the author in some way. Which type of changes would annoy you the most or make you the most mad? It technically depends on why you like that character, but that's what the comments are for!

You can submit poll ideas here (and try to keep them manga/anime-related)
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903

Previous Poll Results:
Question: Your favorite series was dropped by the only group scanlating it, so you...
Choices:
Find the raws and look at them without understanding the words - votes: 1752 (22.4%)
Ask other groups to pick it up - votes: 237 (3%)
Bug the old group to pick it up again - votes: 46 (0.6%)
Try to start your own scanlation group - votes: 65 (0.8%)
Learn the language so that you can read it yourself - votes: 663 (8.5%)
Look for summaries or synopsis to spoil yourself and feed the urge - votes: 1006 (12.9%)
Do nothing and wait patiently (sadly) - votes: 3733 (47.8%)
I already read the original language, so no worries - votes: 308 (3.9%)
There were 7810 total votes.
The poll ended: December 5th 2015

Of course most of us would just do nothing, but I surprising number of you would look for the raws!

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Nothing but, Gender Change would affect me.
Changing the gender would totally kill it fo me. Which will make me want to E-Bomb the author and spam him which I personally despise heavily.

I don't normally read mangas with Gender Bender as the main theme.
Things like the scenario in Renma½ is exception, where I don't feel it being the main point/theme.

Just my personal 2-Cents. Never Mind The Small Details. ^^

@lambchopsil: Raw is The Salvation in this dark world you know. To tell you the truth, I don't only look at the raws of dropped series, I also look at ongoing ones. I don't feel spoiled or anything.
I sometimes do it with movies too like reading the synopsis in IMDB etc.
Though I don't go outta my way and spoil people, if they don't ask me themselves.

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Change of the physical appearance is the only thing that will annoy me. Any other change of the character that is not logical for the story will most probably make me drop the whole thing (it happened with Ajin for example wink ).

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Patience is a virtue but God helps those who help themselves. We have the Five manga titles you wish were still scanlated or revived thread and i link to the one for never translated manga in my own entry a page prior. You never know who reads these with the high view count (and i looked at every entry in the untranslated thread).

A gender changed to Guts himself would murder the narrative for multiple reasons and could never happened. Everything but the love interest change has happened in some fashion to him though! I wouldn´t have a problem if someone else would take over the armor and i will still go with Nothing would affect me as strong authors know what they are doing if they rock the boat in such a radical fashion. These type of conversations are very common amongst US readers due to legacy characters and extreme continuity/directional shifts. Batman for example has again been replaced and putting Commissioner Gordon into an Appleseed inspired armor is the wildest one so far. Mastermind Snyder is still on writing duties and came up with the idea but the sales have taken a hit even if the story itself remained strong. My favorite Green Lantern Guy Gardner has literally changed genders in Justice League 3001 recently while keeping his male/heterosexual brain patterns to hilarious effect so i am game for anything and everything as long as the narrative was preplanned and well executed. My favorite mangaka is Urasawa and not Miura and he is famous for crazy curve balls too.
Yo Minato. I could totally see a future gender change for Luffy for an arc.

@lampposts We need an additional choice for a changed sexual preference as that one is THE hot topic for US comic readers and such shifts have managed to make national news! (The now strictly gay -original continuity- Iceman is the worst one so far but i can name a few good ones too as Marvel´s Shatterstar.)

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What kind of sick mind would change the protagonist's gender halfway through the series

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As long as it's consistent with the story and well done, I can see all those changes taking place... besides a sudden gender change and "intellectual faculties". A gender swap would be weird and pointless, unless it's some very specific supernatural/fantasy story. As for suddenly making a character smart/stupid, well, I'm definitely not a fan of that for any reason whatsoever.

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Personality, I guess. Intellectual capacity and gender changes are also pretty annoying, unless good reasons are given. But personality alteration is the ultimate mood-killer for me: whether a given character is a favourite of mine or not depends primarily on their personality, so if that's gone, then why would I even care about them any more?

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Intellectual changes are the most jarring. Everything else can be done fairly easily with good storytelling but the only way most characters change intelligence is by carrying an idiot ball.

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Yo Minato. I could totally see a future gender change for Luffy for an arc.


Ahoy there residentgrigo.
Nope, unfortunately as I see it that's not happening. Though, I explained on my own way ones already. But, lets go over with it again here.

Some while ago we did witnesses some close shots, such as body swap where Sanji got Nami's body.
To change Luffy's body to a female's, you need somebody with the power to do some. The one who is capable of doing so isn't on the enemy side. Ivankov, who got power to change hormones to make a man, woman and vice versa, is his father's direct subordinate and is on friendly term with Luffy and Sanji.
He did converted Sanji to a female when Sanji was training on his island, Kamabaka Kingdom or Okama Land for 1+ years, but, details are unknown. We only got a glimpse.
Devil Fruits, have some logic(fictional) behind them. Oda-sensei only makes power out of things or elements that exists such as Rubber, Animals, Electricity, Fire, Ice, Gas, Light/Laser, Iron, Anti Gravity, Poison. Power such as Marco's Phoenix is categories as Mythical Beast Type etc. etc.

So, while changing hormones to change sex is quite possible, it's totally illogical have genderswap power.
And I don't believe Oda-sensei will have a ark where some evil scientists drugged the crew during a fest and drags them the their lair...I mean Lab and fufu.... do the surgery on them.
Okay that's not happening and the scenario is TOTALLY LAME!
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Post #674444 - Reply to (#674432) by MrDetective
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Isn't that a genre to itself? Though it is (sadly) mostly early in the series or just cross dressing. I would be fine with it even in the middle of the series if the character reacts rationally and it is explained in the universe.

In Ranma gender changes happens in most episodes and isn't a big issue.

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Personality Shift for sure. When the happy go lucky protagonist turns dark and gritty murder man or vice versa that kills it for me.

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oh this one is hard, i get attached to characters quite easily and would be pretty upset if any of these things happened.
i had a hard time picking between gender, beliefs/values, personality shift, and switching sides.

in the end i picked beliefs/values because i decided that even if they switched sides had a personality shift, or changed gender, as long as they had the same beliefs and values i would not hate it nearly as much as if their values changed.

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Change of the physical appearance is the only thing that will annoy me. Any other change of the character that is not logical for the story will most probably make me drop the whole thing (it happened with Ajin for example wink ).


haha that same exact thing happened for me too, i really didn't expect for him to have that kind of personality. it makes me feel sorry for his friend that is so dedicated to him.


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Quote from Sosseres
Isn't that a genre to itself? Though it is (sadly) mostly early in the series or just cross dressing. I would be fine with it even in the middle of the series if the character reacts rationally and it is explained in the universe.

In Ranma gender changes happens in most episodes and isn't a big iss ...



This has nothing to do with it

In Ranma, gender change is part of the plot

the poll's question is about making a radical change to a character in a series

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For me, the option that would annoy me the most was not listed: the author decides to kill off my favorite character for whatever reason

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