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1:34 am, Oct 15 2016
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This week's poll is from icassop. No explanation necessary

You can submit poll ideas here (and try to keep them manga/anime-related)
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903

Previous Poll Results:
Question: Would you rather
Choices:
Read a crappy manga - votes: 1327 (22.5%)
Watch a crappy anime - votes: 624 (10.6%)
Read a crappy comic book / graphic novel - votes: 84 (1.4%)
Listen to a crappy audio drama / cd - votes: 117 (2%)
Read a crappy novel / book - votes: 245 (4.2%)
Watch a crappy TV show - votes: 481 (8.2%)
Watch a crappy movie - votes: 1037 (17.6%)
Listen to a crappy music album - votes: 197 (3.3%)
Play a crappy video game - votes: 691 (11.7%)
Play a crappy board game - votes: 593 (10.1%)
Play a crappy visual novel - votes: 233 (4%)
Watch a crappy play / musical / performance - votes: 263 (4.5%)
There were 5892 total votes.
The poll ended: October 15th 2016

Maybe I should've said "finish crappy manga" instead. Reading 1 chapter of a crappy manga is nothing

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I'm not quite sure which I prefer more. A hero seeing that not everything is as pure as he thought it was, or a villain learning to forgive or love again. The villain turning good seems good for a fluffy manga/novel, but it may be too cheese. The hero turning evil looks good for psychological manga/novels, but it could have too much unnecessary drama.

I guess to me it depends on what I want to read in that moment, so not voting this time.

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2:14 am, Oct 15 2016
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villain turning good , since its harder to do biggrin

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3:27 am, Oct 15 2016
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Hero turning evil.

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4:32 am, Oct 15 2016
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I feel like the villain turning good is predictable in a lot of cases. It's more exciting to see a hero turn evil because it's more unexpected.

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5:23 am, Oct 15 2016
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If to be more precise i prefer hero turning to dark side, but remaining good, and doing good stuff together with demon lord or someone like that.... So i suppose villain turning good is closer to this kind of plot.

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6:24 am, Oct 15 2016
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Hero turning evil is the safe choice but it works, as pure long form villain stories already barely exist and the ones who do weren´t proper villains, most of the time.
Here is a story about the Joker "Going Sane" after Batman goes missing:
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It could have been better, but the idea is iconic and he is currently a mere butcher:
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Even Suicide Squad had a short dream of him and Harley living a normal life, with children. If the most iconic comic valiant ever can be explored like that, than anyone can. So get to it authors! Mark Waid lastly once wrote the sisters series Irredeemable (a "Superman" went evil) and Incorruptible (evil "Luke Cage" goes good). Irredeemable´s first year is a must but both went on far too long and both kind of stories are a dime and dozen in the US.

Griffith´s lastly fits the 2nd trope but he is neither the protagonist, nor introduced as a hero, nor a proper hero to begin with. Guts is also an anto-hero. See the problem? Some just can´t fit criteria.

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7:14 am, Oct 15 2016
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For manga in general, good turning evil is more interesting. Corruption tends to be more permanent and even if they repent, their evil actions will have lasting consequences.

For american superhero comic books, I would say villain turning good. They've done good going bad so much that it lost all impact, especially since it never lasts.

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7:23 am, Oct 15 2016
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This week's polls have results that are nearly 50/50, that's amazing.

Both have their attractions, but a hero that decides to stop protecting the weak and acting for himself only would be fun to see.(Is there any series with that plot? TELL ME IF THERE IS.)

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8:55 am, Oct 15 2016
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It's honestly hard to say since I love both tropes when they're done well, but if I was to choose, I'm a sucker for villains turning good, even if done poorly, whereas a poorly done hero turning evil is just depressing and tends to be super grimdark for no reason other than edge. Villain turning good lets me maintain my fantasy that most people are redeemable and usually gives us the classic "previously terrible person tries to make friends" trope. Also, Zuko from Avatar is one of my favorite character arcs of all time.

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9:01 am, Oct 15 2016
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As a lover of anti-heros I go with hero turn evil.

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9:46 am, Oct 15 2016
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Iiihhh..........this sounds like it'd mostly be a shounen kind of thing >_<

Well, whatever, a villain turning good........ that's character growth, the other way, yeah, not so much (from my point of view at least).

For the most part, I don't read many stories that are being blatantly told from the bad-guy's point of view or that are obviously meant to glorify / glamorize that element. So, yeah, my "hero" all-out turning "evil".......well, that's most likely going to be the end of the story for me biggrin

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1:44 pm, Oct 15 2016
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Lol. No Grey Area eh confused

I chose Villain turning Good cuz it's mainstream and our heroes needs more what ppl(me included) called "the power of nakama" laugh

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1:58 pm, Oct 15 2016
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antiheros are interesting.

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since villains tend to be more interesting then heroes in general I go with the heel/face flip meself, cause usually the best villains had, in Joker's words, that "one bad day" where the world and everybody in it seemed to just sh*t on their lives, ambitions, hopes, & dreams and they just broke and in their minds the only way to heal was to spread the pain around a little or excise the cause of their pain. the journey back to their humanity is compelling to me. on the other hand if done right it can be pretty damned interesting to see heroes "fall" Captain Atom becoming the Monarch, Hal Jordan becoming Parallax, the Justice Lords of the DCAU come to mind.

still all said I'm kind of a sucker for villains in name only, the kind that plot world domination when in costume but help little old lady cross the street in their civvies, lol.

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