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4:53 am, Nov 12 2016
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Glad Hillary didn't win. I consider myself a progressive so I hated how Hillary screwed Bernie out of the nomination. I've been living out of the country the past couple of years, and just when I started planning to move back this happens. no

Post #685605 - Reply to (#685604) by KaoriNite
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Glad Hillary didn't win. I consider myself a progressive so I hated how Hillary screwed Bernie out of the nomination. I've been living out of the country the past couple of years, and just when I started planning to move back this happens. no


>Progressive
>Glad Hillary, who was pushed further to the left during this election, who was endorsed and vigorously campaigned for by Sanders himself, didn't win, which implies
------>Glad Trump, whose platform is far more conservative/ regressive than Clinton's and Sander's DID win. You can even compare Clinton's and Trump's stances on issues using BBC's analysis.

The whole "anti-establishment" push doesn't even work in this case. As we speak, Trump is assembling a team of Washington's old faces - the likes of Sarah Palin, Gingrich, Giuliani - to run his cabinet.

This is horseshoe theory at its finest. Dear Lord. As someone who voted for Sanders in the primaries, I was offended by the frequent comparisons Hillary supporters would make between us and Trump supporters, but now I'm sad to admit I see where they were coming from. Willful ignorance and spite taints both sides. roll eyes

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Well, I guess the yanks couldn't let the Brits out stupid them, ubelievable that people actually voted for that racist oompa loompa. I honestly hope Trump doesn't decide to nuke someone just because they said something mean about him on twitter.

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Post #685607 - Reply to (#685600) by takeva
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I'm a democrat and I pretty much gave up after Bernie was cheated. After that the whole thing felt like a circus. I didn't vote because I don't care. Actually I laughed when Trump won. I think the next 4 years is going to be exciting~! It's really unpredictable what he will actually do. I think ever ...



Yeah no sh*t it's gonna be "unpredictable" when your president-elect has never once actually discussed in depth what he's going to do with the country, probably because he has no idea what he's even doing and all this parade was just intended to be some elaborate advertisement for his brand?
You'd rather stay butthurt that your precious leader lost and refuse to listen to his plea to save the country and vote for HRC? Your edgy attitude has not only plunged your country into the hands of a toddler playing house, but also driven hundreds of millions of people's lives to face real threats? You may have the privilege to "not care" because your snobby ass doesn't get affected by the consequences that follow, but gloating about how you have the ability to endanger fellow human beings makes you a pos and nothing else you say can prove otherwise.



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Politics has and will always bring out the worst in people. This isn't anything new...



This election takes the cake, though, because there has never been such an overtly vile and incompetent candidate for the most powerful position on earth to date, and yet a quarter of the eligible-to-vote population declared they tolerate or even worship this failure of evolution as long as their status as above "lesser human species" gets protected, while double that amount of people (you included) simply lack the intelligence, or worse empathy, to see how alarming not voting against him will be and decided to not cast their votes or vote for a 3rd party. Yeah it isn't new that people are the cancer of earth, but it hasn't ever been clearer and more depressingly apparent before this election.

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I think I've already made my position pretty clear in the "Things that made me frown today..." thread about Trump. (And I agree with the poster who said it's brought out the worst in every community. I think that's one of the saddest parts of this affair--seeing how many people legitimately support him and have taken to doing terrible things in his name.)

And, I'm not a fan of Clinton (I actually voted Green Party this election, since I come from the majority Democratic state of California, and I wanted to invest in a solution to break the two-party stranglehold), but I do admit that she's the "lesser of two evils" in this case. And, well, the one that the majority of people actually voted for. I was fully prepared to be miffed when Clinton won the presidency, but now I'm terrified that Trump has.

His terrible rhetoric notwithstanding, Trump has no idea how to run a country. He has no idea how to even run most of his businesses. And if that means Mike Pence will have to take the reigns... Oh jeez, I thought Trump sounded bad, but Pence literally sounds like he's evil incarnate.

So, uh, mostly I'm afraid. But the protests have been giving me hope. They don't seem to be in any danger of dying down, and I hope they'll be able to carry this momentum and somehow stop Trump from being sworn in. Somehow.

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There are no clear choices for me present, i but settled on This sucks, even though I don't live in the US . Trump is about as great as Hitler on paper BUT he 100% deserved to win.
I wasn´t even that surprised. The public has spoken, and the country that "needed" 8 years of Bush (now regarded as one of the worst president of all time) deserves up to 8 years of him. You made your bed, and now you lie in it.
The US German politics are about to fall apart btw, before he was even inaugurated.
Our Secretary of State openly despised him for example! He is more of me on Trump: https://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?page=20&t id=45045
PS: This was the best possible outcome for my enjoyment of South Park though.
At least 4 years of President Garrison. Oh, Jeez.

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Read this list by Michael Moore, follow the guidelines and hope for the best:
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/michael-moore-anti-trump-d o-list
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Prepare to impeach Trump. Just as the Republicans were already planning to do with President Hillary Clinton from day one, we must organize the apparatus that will bring charges against him when he violates his oath and breaks the law—and then we must remove him from office.

PS: I just saw the sizable "Don't care" numbers. Sorry but you are idiots. This will affect your country too.

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Post #685616 - Reply to (#685614) by residentgrigo
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Yeah, I've seen it, and I think it's actually possible that Trump could be impeached (especially since he already has a class-action lawsuit against him lined up for later this month). But what I'm worried about in that case is: will Pence succeed Trump as president? Since the guy is scarier than Trump and a politician who knows how to put his desired policies in place. Unless we manage to get rid of Trump's entire cabinet in one fell swoop... I'm not sure how the U.S. (or any other country, come to think of it) will look come the next election cycle.

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only hope left is to wait and vote in the 2018 mid term elections and try to flip the senate and the house so that drumpf can't do anything more stupid. Until then i guess donate to pro-women, pro-earth, pro-immigrant, anti-bigotry organizations and protest.

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This is dumb.

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A bit of history: List of United States Presidents by net worth
List of United States Presidents by net worth
The ultra wealthy and popular George Washington needs to be mentioned but look at Honest Abe. He is one of the very "poorest", yet is seen as one if the finest world leaders of all time. This is the type of man you need to vote for and Bernie Sanders says hello.
Trump though has 465,5 times the net worth of Obama (a very solid leader with a broken senate and a crazy amount of inherited problems by Bush) and 3700 the net worth of Lincoln. Trump even has 3 times the money Washington had, that is... worrying.
The KKK hated Lincoln and they love Trump. Next time, vote against the KKK (even if the alternative is subpar). 19th century America managed that for example!

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Post #685622 - Reply to (#685591) by Anima
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Didn't you miswrite Trump? Hillary is a third wave feminist and this is why she was much more dangerous than Trump.

Post #685623 - Reply to (#685622) by unya
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She was a Second-wave feminist and what you mean is Fourth-wave feminism.
Please keep your random hate speech straight and on point, ok?

(Hillary wasn´t likable but she at least had a game plan. One that didn´t contradict the functioning one from the last 8 years. Trump though contradicts himself multiple times a day and isn´t even a politician.)

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The Democrats won when the Republican party leadership rigged the primaries against Ron Paul, so it's no surprise that the Republicans won when the Democratic party leadership rigged the primaries against Bernie Sanders. People of all political leanings are sick of the corruption.

As a country, Trump isn't the president we need, but he's the president we deserve. I expect the country to suffer, but at least there's an opportunity for people to learn from the mistakes that brought us to this point.

Personally, I didn't want either Trump or Hillary to win, but I did find a bit of catharsis in seeing some people who have made careers out of spewing hypocrisy and hatred flip out over the election results (I won't name names).

Post #685628 - Reply to (#685596) by takeva
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"I think everyone is being over-dramatic and needs to chill the hell out."

Tell the people who are actually getting attacked by Trump supporters. Tell that to people whos families can be torn apart at any moment. Tell that to people who's rights are going to get taken away.

People fear Trump, but they fear his VP the most.

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