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Post #399

9:09 am, Sep 2 2006
Posts: 49

Plucked this out of another topic, since I was off-topic and this post is rather long bigrazz

Nice to hear that the crew here is conscious towards the issue.

The only thing that comes to mind is that whatever tracks popularity needs to be extremely simple since not everyone likes/bothers to write comments/reviews. It also needs to be unpolarized, since the rating system is already populated by extremists with 1s and 10s scores. Not saying that all those 1s and 10s aren't valid, but I hope you know what I mean.

How about simply a "Following/Have Read" button/counter that registered users can click (one time).

Then we could have have a popularity sorting function that can be applied by genre/genre combination like "Shoujo Drama by order of popularity".

And/or add a "favourite" button like the ones that exist for pictures/walls to extract those who liked it from those who simply read it. This might undermine the rating system however.

The last idea that I have in mind (for now) is to "tag" the registered members to create a minimum threshold to form a pool size. Coupled with the "Followed/Following" and "Favourite" buttons, only count the members who have read a certain amount (let's say 5) of the same genre to count, as well as add them to the "genre reader" pool.
Example: Let's say that I'm following 10 titles, 7 of which have Shoujo and 5 of which have Sci-Fi. If the threshold is 5, then I'm actively part of the "Shoujo" and "Sci-Fi" pools.

From the titles point of view, you could extract information like "of 10534 registered Shoujo readers (which I'm part of), 3451 are following/followed it and 954 have favoured it".

So now I have 3 facts: of the 99999999 registered members, 10534 hold the same interest, and 3451 have read this title.
1- 3451 out of 10534 is more significant to me than 3451 out of 99999999 members, since at least they're "active" readers of the said genre(s). 999999999-3451 = the "noise", since they don't even like Shoujo enough to follow the threshold amount of titles. Basically a third of Shoujo readers have read this, so it must be a popular title.
2- 954 have favoured it. "Favoured" must logically be a subset of 3451 to work. With this the user can judge that the said title is not only popular, but is liked.

I'm probably nagging at this point but I'd like to press the idea because:
1- It would set custom pool sizes for each genre and not have say shounens like "Naruto", "Berserk", etc. creaming out a shoujo like "Suzuka" -well, maybe not Suzuka (pretty popular imo), but say "Parfait Tic" out of the list when they're not even competing for the same audience.
2- Allow categorized popularity lists.

Then you can bring this further and add pie-charts and/or other graphs. One cool thing that I like and would like to point out is that mass of titles with size representing the popularity on the BlogSuki's main page. I find that pretty nifty. (, but I'm sure you're aware of it).

Of course this is mainly a suggestion (might be a pain to code this), and the threshold will probably need to be bigger (I'm thinking somewhere between 10 and 25 titles of the genre the user needs to followed/following). I can picture the type of coding to do this with SQL, but I don't know what you're using, so it might be as easy as 1-2-3 or so hard that even plucking your eyeballs out would seem more fair.

Anyhoo, I'd be glad if you consider it. Heck, I'd be glad if anyone has read this post in its entirety... Damn, need to stop typing

Oh, I forgot to add, it would probably be best to have an option to "un-favour" a title the user could click for whatever reason. Makes the whole system more precise. biggrin

Post #400

9:14 am, Sep 2 2006
Posts: 49

Damnit, "genre conscious" sounds so gay/corny. I should've said categorized instead. eek

Post #401

9:21 am, Sep 2 2006
Posts: 49

Oh, just noticed some indirect advantages, such as this way we can know genre popularity by measuring the active pool sizes and compare them, although it's probably a no-brainer that Shounen would win. However we'd get to know how many people actually regularly read those Yaoi mangas biggrin

I sound like a rabid activist now cool

Post #402
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9:25 am, Sep 2 2006
Posts: 325

umm if ya can next time use the edit function instead of posting again. well if they're right after each other

why back in the day we didn't 'download', we had to swim to japan if we wanted fresh anime and that was only if...

I dream of a better tomorrow... where chickens can cross roads and not have their motives questioned.
Post #409
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2:46 pm, Sep 2 2006
Posts: 2237

Give me a while to process this.

Post #415
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4:21 pm, Sep 2 2006
Posts: 9128

Wow, that took a while to read...

Very interesting suggestion. Even if Manick codes all this and implements it into the system, it'll probably take a few months for users to get used to it so that we can have accurate info...

A just ruler amongst tyrants
Post #417

5:23 pm, Sep 2 2006
Posts: 49

Sorry about that Mellow, was 5am and I was driven on hype/sleep deprivation. We should maybe have a delete function for those idiotic posts of mine.

I understand that if this gets implemented it will take time, and it was mostly on the spur of the moment kind of suggestion.

As for the system, I hope it's doable, since the underlying fundamentals is already implemented in the scanlation groups (counters for every genre) so I assume the same can be made for every user.

Post #418
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5:49 pm, Sep 2 2006
Posts: 2237

It's doable. It's will just be a huge undertaking. Adding in the features you mentioned shouldn't be that much of a change from what I've already got planned. I just haven't thought about the logistics yet.

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