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lambchopsil
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I'm surprised we never had this poll before. It's actually a really good question to ask the community. The question was submitted by shiarisu.

You can submit poll ideas here
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903

Previous Poll Results:
Question: How long is too long for an anime series?
Choices:
12-13 episodes - votes: 70 (0.8%)
24-26 episodes - votes: 177 (2.1%)
52 episodes - votes: 924 (11%)
100 episodes - votes: 1636 (19.4%)
200 episodes - votes: 1024 (12.2%)
500 episodes - votes: 1277 (15.2%)
1000+ episodes - votes: 974 (11.6%)
It's never too long - votes: 2336 (27.8%)
There were 8418 total votes.
The poll ended: July 28th 2017

How many of you would actually finish a 200+ episode anime?...

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residentgrigo
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The whole thing is illegal and ultimately bad for the industry, so let´s not kid ourself.
Go for broke and continue until there's an actual DMCA complaint.

MU itself hasn´t gotten one in quite some time it seems. Interesting.

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calstine
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I'm not even going to pretend that I considered the last option, but 1, 3 and 4 all have their merits. Suppose I could go with the first one, though I could also make a case for the fourth. Actually, the fourth might be better, since disobeying DMCA's brings too much unwanted attention to the scanlation community, reader sites, and download sites. But it's not like I've never read scans and e-book rips of the official English releases of unscanlated/dropped licensed series...

So, yep, I'll go with 4.

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Quote from residentgrigo
MU itself hasn´t gotten one in quite some time it seems. Interesting.

Great, now you've gone and jinxed it. Maybe we'll be shut down tomorrow eek laugh (I'm only half-joking, tbh. I'm not typically superstitious, but the power of the jinx is scary!)


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Not everyone live where it was licensed, not everyone have money to spend on it, not everyone want to wait until official translations catch-up with ongoing (and that's assuming they translating magazine chapters as well, not only volumes), and official translations not always (to say the least) better than scanlation.

unya
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9:40 am, Jul 29 2017
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Yes, because USA isn't the only country in the world. Importing just cost too much in the end.

VawX
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Living in 3rd world country just make it really hard to find good licensed manga.

So option 3 or 4 is the best I can choose regarding this matter.

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Yes!
Scanlation affects/boosts the quality, availability and speed from both official and unofficial sides.
So, It's needed for the greater good of the community.
An just as residentgrigo said up there, when pirating, go for broke. No "Honour" among pirates. Which is unnecessary imo.
Among the official/licensed ones, I like the initiative taken by Naver, with their LINE Webtoons. It's Fast, available in many different languages and of Good Quality, which is still improving. In such cases like this Pirating becomes unnecessary. So Heave Ho!!

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MU itself hasn´t gotten one in quite some time it seems. Interesting.

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Great, now you've gone and jinxed it. Maybe we'll be shut down tomorrow eek laugh (I'm only half-joking, tbh. I'm not typically superstitious, but the power of the jinx is scary!)


MU in regular shouldn't get any DMCA as it's an Information sharing website, forum where you only enlist info and releases, without even giving the link. Just like in torrentz (now an alternative torrentz2), which is merely a search engine, unlike the IMMORTAL The Pirate Bay (yay!).
Only times it(MU) gets DMCA are like in the cases with Series Image, which gets removed locked in response.

P.S. Oh! Forgot to mention that, Scanlations who don't have a website or don't post their work via a website or blog(?), and simply posts via Torrent, IRC etc. doesn't get a DMCA Complaint notice to begin with. bigrazz biggrin

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dreamer00013
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How about "yes, if said licensed work is terrible in quality"?

LazyCat3
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3:57 pm, Jul 29 2017
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i don't get why manga makers are pissed that some poor souls from some God-forsaken countries are reading their manga online (illegal). if those people didn't find the manga online they definitely wouldn't read it because they can't find it in their country, so how is the mangaka losing money? because those illegal readers don't buy the japanese version legal even if they don't know how to read japanese?
i searched out of curiosity if i can buy manga in my country and all of them are in english and the cheapest is 13$ one volum; and this are the ones i found: One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, Attack on Titan, Fullmetal Alchemist, Dragon Ball, D.Gray-man; i've never read any of this because i don't like the genre (the last one i didn't even heard of).


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10:09 pm, Jul 29 2017
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I go with option 4. I love scanlations, but I don't want to see any scanlators get into legal trouble over them.

That said, I really wish that scanlators would be willing to pick up titles that were once published but the company went out of business. Being a yaoi fan, I have seen many publishers come and go and as a result many yaoi scanlation projects have been dropped, but never resumed. sad

Oniluap
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I would agree with the idea of stopping if a series is licensed, but here's the thing: not everyone lives in the US. There's a TON of licensed series that aren't available in my country and it's almost impossible for me to acquire legally, and I think there are many others in a similar situation.

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11:20 pm, Jul 29 2017
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Hmmm.... Well, import fees are always so over the top. But it's like... hard if you're a fan when you're not part of the country. Then again, you wouldn't have been able to fan over anything without scans in the first place.. Urg...

I choose "As long a s the scans are ahead of the license" since that way I'm able to pick and choose the best/favorite volumes to buy since I use scans as a read and buy if I like type of thing.

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Yes. Just because it's translated in english, get licensed in USA, then the fans in other countries couldn't enjoy it anymore. As long as they aren't making profit from those series, I prefer them to keep scanlating the series. There are many cases where the quality of the scanlators are better than the licensed ones which made me cringe when I bought the 'licensed' series.

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I chose "Never", which is what I try to practice with my own projects.

If it's licensed in English, don't scanlate it in English. Scanlate it in whatever other language where it's not available legally.

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