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1:17 pm, Jun 5 2008
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Hehe I'm quite bored and i got this while i was talking to my teacher.
We live for happiness our needs/wants/desire because of that we struggle to obtain what we do not have. Then what would happen if you obtain it? the clear joy you receive from having it make you at your peak of happiness. If so what happen after that? After having it and experience it at that moment you should realize there is nothing better and so this will be your climax of joy. If so would you end it after having it or continue to live?

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1:19 pm, Jun 5 2008
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Me thinks this is a repeat, but will not look for it.


Anyway, there is no true happiness that can be sustained in life. Life is full of pain and suffering. It is the moments of happiness that make life worth living.

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1:22 pm, Jun 5 2008
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You would eventually lose your true happiness.

Thus you would try to go for it again.

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even if you get what you have wanted, you ll find that something else is missing. We always want more and if we don t its just for short time that should be enjoy (problems wont take long time to came again)

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Taking things into your terms, i think that what follows finding happiness is selfsatisfaction of finding it. So it kinda keeps the happiness on the same level.
If we are talking in a philosophical context, lets say, greek concept of happiness, then, once you find it you will never lose it. So if the concept you have of happiness changes, in example, get more materialistic, then, you will have happiness while you have whatever gives you happiness and after that... well, keep on looking for it.
Personally, if i get to find it, i won't consider it proper to end my life just because i may lose it (happiness).

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There can never be be absolute/true happiness in our lives. All we do is try to fill in the emptiness we have in our lives with materialistic gains or emotions and call it happiness which constantly seeps out. Happiness is a term with ever changing definition from different points of view and hence there will always be conflicts between the requirements to be absolutely happy. The lack of happiness is brought about due to the lack of knowledge and experience ( something like inferiority complex ).
Holy Crap! I can't believe I ranted that stuff.
In short we all re greedy and thus we cannot be happy until we remove the greed.

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3:13 pm, Jun 5 2008
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While reading this topic I was unfortunately reminded of King Haggard from The Last Unicorn... My "Coolness" rating just dropped 50 points... and I only had 2 dead

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There are too many things you think will make you happy and so few that actually will.

Before you can obtain happiness you must first obtain the key that opens the door [to happiness].

Life is like a box of chocolates, you eat the ones you like and give the rest to someone you don't [like]. laugh

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(words in [ ] just clarify meaning slightly) 'Bearded Old Man' rating +12 points

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3:14 pm, Jun 5 2008
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i agree. have you ever met anyone who was truely happy; content with everything in their life? in the type of world we live in with disaster after disaster no-one is.
but i think that if anyone does become completly happy they would want to live...thats if they don't loose it; then they'd be abit depressed.

ah crap, all this thinking has made my brain hurt. sad

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3:46 pm, Jun 5 2008
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True happiness is not as elusive as people try to make it out to be. Its just that when people become happy and content, its natural to want more so the quest for happiness kind of snowballs to this unmanageable level. I can tell you now that if I had been born into a reasonable inheritance and didn't have to work crappy minimum wage jobs to support myself and my family and get myself through college I would be a very happy person. Its just that people take things like having a place to live and having food to eat for granted. Anyone who's been through a near death experience will tell you that just being alive is true happiness.

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3:52 pm, Jun 5 2008
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don't think to much about happiness and am i really happy stuff, that never did anybody good...


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8:57 pm, Jun 5 2008
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Quote from TimeManInJail
HThen what would happen if you obtain it? the clear joy you receive from having it make you at your peak of happiness. If so what happen after that? After having it and experience it at that moment you should realize there is nothing better and so this will be your climax of joy. If so would you end it after having it or continue to live?


Hehehe. Just happened to me, In just 10 years time, I almost finished everything I had in my life list. Then I was like, "now what?"
But well, you just never settle for contentment. Even after you get what you want, you're never satisfied. After that, you'll start aiming for something bigger...and bigger...and bigger.^^ Anyway, how are you even sure that THAT was the peak of your happiness? Surely it wasn't. One day, something better will come along that will make you happier. You just have to start aiming higher and higher. Do you think the most successful person in the world (whoever she/he may be) stopped dreaming for something bigger after they obtained everything they wanted? I don't think so.

This kinda reminds me of an indie spanish movie, "Tu Vida en 65'" (Your life in 65 minutes). The guy became so happy in the end, he realized that he has reached his peak, and this was the happiest he could ever be in life, so...the next morning he killed himself. ^^;; I totally didn't get it...

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9:12 pm, Jun 5 2008
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Quote from ahoaho
Me thinks this is a repeat, but will not look for it.


Anyway, there is no true happiness that can be sustained in life. Life is full of pain and suffering. It is the moments of happiness that make life worth living.


Drink it up, cause that's the good stuff.

Those little in-between the anguish moments of happiness are what we strive to obtain, if one person is ever happy all the time, they are either lying to themselves, or mentally ill

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6:39 pm, Jun 16 2008
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wow lot of good comments,So let say a men of low "status" he has nothing. Cloths are torn socks has hole and you can already see stains that distort the own clothing colour. He is nothing but a homeless person what ever the reason that put him there in the first place. From Morning to sun down he try to save from the money of charity. As light dies and he come to the thing he call home. Friends around him laugh and cheer and drink the cheapest thing we throw away.

If so, what would you rather have a life in ( of course this matter will only cause you change nothing will happen to the surrounding of your life) a homeless person or the many that work just fulling the standard of living? house/job and just live for others.

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6:47 pm, Jun 16 2008
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I personally would choose the normal life, that is because even if you make the other choice seem better, just a normal life can give me some sense of self-accomplishment. Now being more realistic, seriously being homeless isn't that good, and even less to go throught whatever made them that way.

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6:53 pm, Jun 16 2008
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i'd also go for the normal life. if you think of people as a whole the normal life tends to look boring because many people experience similar things, when it's really the small details that make living special. a homeless person does do things out of the ordinary, but i think they have a lot more problems that tie them down to an unhappy life.

anyways, if i found the thing i've been wanting most in the world, i'd find a new thing i want most and continue my life. i'm a person of short attention span so that's how i roll. :]

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