Not sure what my final conclusion would be about the identities of the wise, but im starting to have a growing unease that Oboro might be one of the main wise guys... if you're wondering about my reasons, here are a few that come to mind:

Just plain attitude - he doesn't exactly give off the "righteous hero attitude" that you would expect from a hero groupy

Oboros got freeky amount of power - he is barely in the future for any amount of significant time, and yet he has enough power and talent to be able to bring TWO people back from deaths grip, using a supposedly complicated ability of healing

His raw talent with his abilities - he completely owned the so called rise expert in a single attempt, without breaking a sweat

His growing interest in "experiments" - in his latest battle/chapter he "experimented" on the taboos core...

His ability - A cure ability would be perfect for making taboos, as it would be able to keep the human alive while you rearranged its inside and inserted a new energy source

Any one else agree with me? Or have any other ideas as to wise members?

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I think you got a point there, I was actually thinking that same thing after the last chapter.

I'm actually very interested in Nemesis Q though. I think he might be one of the kids at Elmore.

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Ya, i've always wondered what his identity was, but so far i don't think we've found out enough about nemesis Q's personality to match him to anyone yet. If it were out of the elmore kids, i think it would be the calm meditating guy, as both he and nemesis Q seem to have very calm and composed natures, and we haven't seen his psy power yet (can't remember his name, and im pretty sure they didn't show his power, correct me if i'm wrong though )

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Well you might be right about the wise but for Nemesis Q hmmmmmmmmm......... I think (just a hunch) that it si Ageha. Dont know why just it seems that Nemesis Q is very powerfull and Ageha is going to become more powerfull so ...........thats how I think ? Any ideas about my theory? .........

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true that makes alot of sense! but if thats true, when we find it out, then that means the manga will be drawing to a close, which i hope doesn't happen anytime soon

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Hey What if i told you i know who all three wise members and nemesis Q is?? but it's pretty insane, nemesis Q and the leader of wise would be the last person you'd ever think it'd be, and it's not the elmore kids

I don't think Ageha is Nemesis Q. That would be waaaaayyyy too predictable.

We've just started scratching the surface of The WISE. Once it gets deeper, we'll start seeing similarities with other wise members, if they ever show them.

As of right now, imo, it's somebody that we don't know of yet.

(And the kid from Elmore that you said, his name is Shao)

[spoiler]Ageha,Oboro,and Kabuto are the three members that make up wise, in the next couple've chapters you''ll figure it out , the white hair guy in the future is to stupid to realize who he's getting wasted by till it's too late, im not sure if ageha finds out that he's nemesis Q is him before he returns or after butt once they get back to they're own time kagetora and Matsuri are gonna be waiting for them, then future ageha aka "Nemesis Q" is gonna attack them, kagetora and matsuri are gonna fight him so everyone can run away but im not sure if the rest've them actually run away or get knocked unconcious trying to fight but the only ones still fighting are kagetora,matsuri but ageha is still concious trying to fight, nemesis Q looks like he's getting his ass kicked for a little while maybe loses an arm or something not sure, but he either regenerates and kills matsuri and kagetora or he just straight out kills them with the arrow of death technique and puts wholes through them, at this point everyones unconcious dead or gone except ageha. not only is he totally tramatized from seeing them die but he recognizes the technique, i think he might take off the mask and show him his face or he just leaves but thats what starts ageha down the dark path to become the leader of wise

one thats not really a spoiler more like an insane prediction i mean from what we know right know Nemesis Q is on the good side. i mean why would the white hair guy be chasing them if he knew what they were

therefore leading us to believe that nimesis is either working against the taboos to prevent what will happen. so why would he kill highly trained phy users (plus it seems like he could every phy user if he wanted to so why would he spesifically choose then to attack and kill them)

ok mabe he might attack them to show how weak they are but that's about it.

what i really want explained is if the future is in their universe or another if it is their own universe does the future change every time they get back from phyren or not and it would be very inexplicable of how aghena is nemesis like if he didnt know about phy before he started going to the future how would he have survived whatever happened and gained the knowledge to go back in time

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if that's your "spoiler" then i want to know your so called source o.0

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well your half right so don't take it as gospel, it's an insane guess mixed with insider knowledge and hidden clues in the chapters so far that'll make sense later, i have a friend who works with Shueisha who throws me info now and again, so i only know certain things few and far inbetween eachother, it's a leap to say it'll happen but thats only a rough draft theory im still working out a the kinks. theres alot thats to far ahead so if i put them in my theory now it'd just confuse people.

im positive that ageha,oboro,and kabuto are the wise members but i can't seem to find any legitimate proof of nemesis Q identity yet so it's just conjecture, i do know that matsuri and kagetora die at some point and that in the conflict to come Ian the other healer(out've revenge),Hiryū,and Sakurako fight ageha,oboro, and kabuto

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I'm sorry. There's no way I can read that with a straight face

Nemesis Q is on the good side but acting for his own personal good.

He could be sending people to Psyren so they awaken their powers to prevent Psyren... or to overthrow Psyren as it is so NQ could take over.

after the last chp
I think the first star commander or whatever was its name is ageha
he looks exactly like him

the headstrong guy? but if it was ageha, he would be able to recognize himself wouldn't he o.0

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For me some wise members looked like the kids.