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Post #13399
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12:10 pm, May 8 2007
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Ahahah I love that picture you got Juneau. Truely this is how we show our love for each other here biggrin

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I like, I don't think it relates to reality in any way. To begin with, kids under 14 are annoying IRL XD I really, really hate children. But then in shota/loli manga they don't even behave like, well, people.

But, hm, if you think of old civilizations, as in rome/grece, it was common a professor teaches his student in a sexual way. You can see in sculptures and paintings of heroes and angels that male boys were as much as sexualized in those culture than ours. If I remember well, they called pretty young boys as 'kouros' in egypt... I guess it was it anyway.

Post #13512 - Reply to (#13508) by Akari
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I like, I don't think it relates to reality in any way. To begin with, kids under 14 are annoying IRL XD I really, really hate children. But then in shota/loli manga they don't even behave like, well, people.

But, hm, if you think of old civilizations, as in rome/grece, it was common a professor teaches his student in a sexual way. You can see in sculptures and paintings of heroes and angels that male boys were as much as sexualized in those culture than ours. If I remember well, they called pretty young boys as 'kouros' in egypt... I guess it was it anyway.


I disagree. It is only when teens go beyond 18 do they exhibit this superiority complex with an attitude of I'm-better-than-everyone attitude.

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hehe im sry first post ever so ya bigrazz

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Wait. Actually, you're onto something.

I was just in the shower, and I thought of something:

So, I think that lolicon is more for the desire for a person with the personality of being fun and cute... but also dependent.

Think about it... you know how a lot of those young girls are like, sempaiii~~

And you're just like aww...?

I mean, this makes sense. It's a huge distinction from actual pedophilia... in the negative connotation that we think of it today: lusting for the body of a young girl.

I think lolicon is more about the personality of... neediness... and plenty of guys like/want this in his girlfriend.

...maybe. But anywho. This is how I define it... and because of this, when I think about it, it isn't actually a psychological disorder... since this is only a preference for a certain type of personality. But... now, it's still taboo to actually act upon a child to get this kind of personality. =_=;

Haha... what do you all think? Flawed logic here?




A while ago, I discovered that I really, really hated the clinginess of some girls... but it was conflicting.. because I wasn't all that opposed to liking a girl that saw me as a sort of mentor... so, I tried thinking about where this distinction lies.

Ahh... haha... so if any of you have seen Love Hina... I guess that might be the reason I didn't like Su... because she was a bit clingy to Keitaro... because he reminded her of her brother... yet, I really thought Shinobu was cool... because she saw him as a mentor... but didn't ... do ... what Su did. Agh. I just lost the distinction between their kinds of "love" again. >_<;

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I caught the lolicon disease because of the many anime/manga that have young girl character (hinata from naruto), I know it's not too good but if it is prohibited why so many manga/anime have it(young girl chara).

I don't think lolicon and pedophile are the same, lolicon = Have a liking for cute girls character that is usually underage (like = okay but don't do anything that would get you prisoned)

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None really , I dont have a sick sense of humar bigrazz , So they're quite disturbing fiction or not .. It's more of a vision .

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lolicon. Not the pedo kind but more of the appreciation of lolis. In fact, i'm in a group called the SOL Brigade.
Save the World by Overloading it with Lolis Brigade.
I'm sure most of you get the parody.

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Its hard to tell these days. One of my friends calls me a Lolicon, because we were driving this one time, and I said this chick looked hot. He found out later she was like fourteen. She didn't look it, though. I remember being in high school and that was ok, I'm 21 now, I couldn't date a teenager even if I wanted to.

I guess its hard to classify, but if Loli is simply stating that you like cute girls, fine, then I do. Whether they're young or not, cute is cute.

I've read plenty of manga that had Lolicon elements in it, too, and it never really disturbed me. Then again, I hardly judge any manga any more, due to its themes (I've pretty much read every type of theme or genre), so, thats probably why it doesn't bother me.

Would I say that I only like Loli characters? Nope. (My current obsession is Pi from .hack//G.U.)

So, I guess I am neither.

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Post #16127 - Reply to (#13935) by DeLtA_IjK
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Quote from DeLtA_IjK
I was just in the shower, and I thought of something:

XDDD That's where I have the majority of my epiphanies laugh (I heard somewhere that for most people it's on the toilet, but I've never heard of anyone like that...) Just a bit of crazy info I felt like sharing smile wink grin

Anyway (sorry for getting off topic again), shotacon and lolicon are too close to child porn for me...and it just kinda freaks me out since it wasn't long ago that I was of that tender age...I like cute little boys (like Hunny from OHSHC, adorable, yet untouchable), but not with people that hardcore take advantage of them. It makes me feel bad for them (and a bit grossed out) sad They're just too naive and innocent for their own good...!!!

I realized that even though I'm the one who started this topic, I didn't actually answer it myself laugh

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I realize this topic isn't very alive now, but I'll give my own two cents, even if I shoudln't. I'm a male 15 year old (turned not super long ago) and I like both lolicon and shotacon whenever I am in the mood for one or the other (its rare thatI go for shotacon, but it has happened before). I hope my comment doesn't get booted out, but I honestly got into the genre (loli first) when I was about 12. I am not proud of that fact, but I won't deny it either. The reality of the new generation of which I am in is that we were born into the internet. My peers, male and female, are open to the internet and an array of adult material that one could reach to at the click of a button. Get realistic here, I know NO person in my generation over 13 who hasn't at least enjoyed some form of pornography/hentai. (well, maybe the lucky few) I ponder the subject too. Do I have some form of inate lust for younger (for me not very younger at all, I'll admit, it might just be the cuteness factor, though), or has this idea been imposed on me somehow through massive media influence on my mind. I doubt either. I enjoy several forms of hentai and anime in general, and shota and loli are just two other forms of it. (I could say legally speaking I'm not supposed to see any, but I the law hold very little punishment for me and I don't hold much care). Just inversly to point, I'm very strong in my own belief of monogamy and abstaining until marriage (bite me). In terms of the usage of younger children, you have to realize this diea of an age of consent is fairly new. In older cultures, say ancient greek, it was far more common for people to be married by age 12. The ideas of youth, innocence, the newer generation, yes those things do at least subconciously interest older people. Luisalirio84, you need to calm down. People will have strange tendencies. If they have no way to vent it out at all, their own slightly odd sexual interest that they would more or not never act on will brew in them into far worse things. Maybe I am an underaged pedophile (oxymoron, I know), but I am far more interested in my own age group than anything else. In all honesty, I am far more concerned right now about homework, or finals, ect, than I am about sex. I probably do use hentai to vent out emotion or sexual energy, but do I harm anyone or ever intend to? No. People complain about loli yet never talk about goro, people being slaughtered or violently hurt for some form of sexual excitment in hentai. Point taken, I like lolicon and shotacon, although they aren't my first choice in terms of hentai.

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Hey DeLtA_IjK , great post! Really had some thought behind it.

Hmm, i don't really get how people can argue that pedophilism and lolicon and shotacon aren't the same thing. Lolicon and Shotacon are just a subclass of shotacon.


To the last poster ragade, intresting stuff, even if it is a bit long. And I'll bite you and say no sex before marriage is a dumb thing. I think that sex reveals a lot about your partner and you should know as much about your partner as possible before you get married. I kniw I know, its just my opinion.



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good post, ragade. i always laugh when i see the official age warnings; i don't know anyone who hasn't been thinking about sex long before 18, even if they're not doing it yet. and i feel there's nothing wrong with that. thought and action are two entirely different things. yet i also don't see the point of waiting with sex until marriage (though i did it myself, after having been abused as a young teen) -- sex is just one of the many ways people interact and i no longer reserve such a special place for it; that overvalues it. but hey, whatever you want to do; it's your choice, and don't let anyone pressure you either way.

i am not offended by loli and shota, but i don't care to look at it either. loli not at all because i'm not into girls, and cutesy girly behaviour annoys me. shota -- when it's two kids exploring and there's actual plot i might read it. otherwise, no. for one, really askew power dynamics bother me, and i don't fantasize about those. and shota is so geared towards people who like cute that it completely passes me by, since i don't like cute. i like my erotica manly. smile

as regards its relation to actual pedophilia: none IMO. if there were a direct relation between one's fantasies and one's actions i'd be in jail several times over because all the violent video games i play with relish would surely have led me to kill lots of people without compunction. instead i am a real-life pacifist, and those games function instead quite possibly as an anger release mechanism. and the same goes for every single person i know who plays those games; none of them is particularly violent in real life. and nobody i know who reads yaoi has as yet abused a real boy. i believe there is generally no causation.

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I like anything -- and I do mean anything -- as long as the art is good. If the art's bad, I won't enjoy it. But if it's beautifully drawn, I'll read shota, loli, bondage, sadism, bloodplay, snuff, gore... You name it!

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I like anything -- and I do mean anything -- as long as the art is good. If the art's bad, I won't enjoy it. But if it's beautifully drawn, I'll read shota, loli, bondage, sadism, bloodplay, snuff, gore... You name it!



that's disturbing.....you ever read tropical citron or keep on vibratingor Tokyo Akazukin

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