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Post #642710
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6:06 am, May 23 2014
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i like all cats, but i only like medium-big sized dogs. hate those oversized rats they call dogs...

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Post #642741 - Reply to (#642589) by fr33noob
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I found what i wrote to you funny.

Good for you. I think this sums you up pretty well. As for the answer to my question, I already did it, it was not directed at you.

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K-9 is abbreviation commonly used for German Sheppard.

Okay what are you talking about? I asked this in my first reply. Did you just confuse K9 short to a certain breed and do you know it's actual name? Just a moment ago you didn't know, now you suddenly know both the breed of your dog and the meaning of K9. And you're wrong. K9 "kay nine" is short for "canine" meaning dog. It is often used in the police force, making the target of the term there police dogs. German Shepherds are common police dogs. See the connection? But in no way is K9 a short for German Shepherd per se.

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Well, what was the point in pointing that to me? I said they travel in packs to show they do have a semblance of social structure, not because there are no exceptions "lone wolfs". Reading most of what you wrote sounds like you're whining because it's mostly nit-picking and "straw man arguments". Look it up, sums up everything you do in this thread.

The point was you can't even phrase sentences so they make any sense. If you talk shit then you get shit is the reason you got that kind of response. Reflect.

Look it up? What makes you think I don't know what it means. It seems you don't know what it means. What are you trying to say? That dogs are smarter than cats? Since when did I make an argument against that? I'm just showing why your arguments don't work. Whether or not you are correct don't mean shit when you can't give a logical basis for your thinking. You're a hundred years early to question my arguments with your term-throwing and example-less claims just like that other idiot awhile back. Or are you just quoting her? I don't make arguments against other person's if they can't make one in the first place. If they can then I probably let them be, unless I feel especially strongly about the subject, which I usually don't.

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Dog is commonly known to be smarter than it's counter part cats because of its more social attributes

So you're saying social attributes are the basis of intelligence? If you think you're saying it's a sign of it's higher intelligence, then think again. And if there are exceptions to your logic on why easy-to-domesticate animals are smarter then your logic doesn't work.

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Yes, we would have all miss understood that if it was not for you. You cannot kidnap an animal by definition *facepalm*

Misunderstood what exactly? Why are you telling me dogs evolved from wolves? Did I ever once say they didn't? You seemed to have very well misunderstood what I was questioning. Not the evolution of the dog from wolves, but the manner of the first contact with wolves. Do you realise silencecomes just claimed that the contact came about in man forcefully abducting puppies from wolves. I'm not saying it's not possible, I just questioned the basis behind that claim.

I admit I didn't phrase myself simply enough even for you to understand, but then, it wasn't directed at you. The point of picking the word "kidnapped" was the fact that it's used in addressing humans, and using it on wolves humanising the animal and making it sound like a crime was committed: the evil humans doing an evil deed forcefully abducting wolf pups from their mothers and enslaving them for their own greedy uses. This is what the phrasing suggests.

The reason for my neutral tone instead of calling silencecomes an outright moron is that I took into account the possibility that the indication of their statement might have comes from their inadequate English and they might want to clarify. I like to expect people to be smart from the start. But don't worry, I have no such expectations of you.

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Jokes aside, I can certainly say that I didn't pull it out of my own ass, so have a go at this:

Actual sources! How rare on these forums. I'm proud of you Scyfon, you've come a long way.

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It is a theory for a reason, Do you know why i say there are no concrete facts?
There have been fossils of domesticated dogs predating further than even 15.000 years ago, 30 thousand years...quite the difference in time period. So no, he doesn't know the exact reason dogs evolved that way.

You have just shown that you cannot make a valid argument. But say, if you're talking with a scientist with decades of experience on scientific topic, you might disapprove of his argument without being able to provide any reason as to why. It's understandable that he can make better arguments considering all his experience. You might have heard another argument by another even more experienced scientist that you believe in but can't properly use it because of your lack of experience. Or perhaps it's just something you believe in without basis, doesn't matter. But if you can't make an argument then consider your attitude. Are you just going to trash that scientists argument and say you're right? And the point is not that he's more experienced but that he can make the damn argument. You can either make your own or disagree politely and buzz off.

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a lot of lions and other dangerous species have been "hunted down" for safety reasons but still survived overall. Just so happens that dogs where friendlier.

Hunted down generally and in noticeable extent? Have they really? I think fairly many of these "dangerous" species are endangered and being kept alive by prohibiting hunting and other measures and some of them still on the verge of extinction. And what, dogs are smarter for that? Really? And I also though of this. Do you mean sociable as in sociable with humans? And how is being sociable with humans better than being sociable with their own species for their intelligence?

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True they would get hunted down if not for the friendly nature, but you know what...a lot of lions and other dangerous species have been "hunted down" for safety reasons but still survived overall.

Are you actually putting wolves and lions on the same survival level? Seriously? You don't see how there's anything wrong with that statement?
Yes, the wolves didn't have to kiss ass, but at the end of the day, they did. You can beat around the bush all you want, it's still gonna be the same thing.

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"there are no concrete facts"
just to disagree with the popular theory, or with a renowned scientist with far more experience than you, doesn't make you right in any way. You're just admitting that you have little knowledge of wtf you're talking about. You have brought nothing to this debate/discussion aside from your petty disagreements.
What makes it even funnier is that by saying that, your previous
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incredibly inaccurate, on sooooo many levels
means jack shit because you clearly don't know wtf you're talking about.. You can't tell someone that they're wrong when you don't even know what's right.

Just stay quiet and let the grown-ups talk. kthnxbai.

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I am most definitely a dog person! When my baby died (yes, my baby) I cried for her more than any human being... I don't plan to have kids in the future so I'm going to fill my house with dogs.

I own a cat now but I'm always so "meh" around her. I don't really feel like I miss her when I'm not home with her either. I miss my dog though. ):

I. Love. Dogs. Love!

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Cats. Cats. And more Cats. If only I'm not allergic to them... My eyes get a little puffy and waters alot after being around them for about an hour. If they scratch me, it will swollen a bit. I guess I just love how they some time play hard to get, and clawing the hell out of my hands when I play with them (it still hurts). Note: these are my experience with my friends cats =3

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Cats

In my 17 almost 18 years of live i have been attacked by dogs 5 times

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