yah to get back to the actual topic (>_>) What, if any, manifestation of God do you believe in (like specifically). And I'm not going to get the ball rolling so someone else go ahead.

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Your tongues deny .. but your hearts assurors .. that " there's no God but Allah"

and this Topic is the perfect example of Denying what Allah gave you

But there will come a day

and your going to be asked about every single word and act you said and did

تعــالى الله عمــا يشركون علوا كبيــرا

ربنـا لا تؤاخذنا بمـا يقوله السفهـاء منا

@Yasha
What exactly is it that Allah/God gave us? If it is the Qu'ran how do you know it came from Allah/God? How do you know it is the truth?

Sorry for the questions man, but as a muslim I too needed these questions answered.

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@ UberZombie
I think this is a perfect question, and this is what has kept me following Jesus. When we invite God into our lives, he makes himself known via the Holy Spirit. Now before we jump the Gun the Holy Spirit isn't like the force or some mysterious voice that only Christians can hear. The Holy Spirit is what cleanses us from the inside out. Heaven is a place for the sinless, which means if we have sin in us we're not getting in, so God works in us to change us so that we become something new. What I mean is, when I invited Jesus into my life, I started to really dislike some of the activities I was involved in. Pornography, Swearing, getting angry easily, and being outright arrogant. Instead I started enjoying peace, just becoming calmer, looking for peace in the midst of fighting between friends, the list can go on and on. I'm certainly not the same person I was 2 yrs ago, 2 months ago, and even 2 weeks ago. God is constantly working in me and this is the truth of what God does to a person.

Last edited by Zubz313 at 9:30 pm, Jul 23 2007

Zubz313 .. are you a muslim?!

Yup I sure am muslim.

o.k .. i will write in arabic then because my English is bad ..

ربي سبحـانه حافظ القران الى يوم الدين .. ولو لاحظت كل الكتب السماويه المنزله لقت التحريف الا القران .. حتى الاعاجم اللي ما يعرفون القران يقدرون يميزونه .. هذا هو الدليل انه معجزه ..

ومن معجزاته ايضا انه يتداوى فيه .. وتطمئن القلوب بقرائته ... وفيه الرد على المشركين مثل النصارى واليهود عندمـا ادعوا ان لله ولد تعالى الله عمـا يشركون علوا كبيرا ..

اقراء القران من سورة البقره الى سورة الناس وراح تجد كل اجوبة التساؤلا ت اللي في ذهنك ..

وتحظرني قصة الدكتور اللي طلب جثة فرعون كي يدرسها ويعمل عليها بحوثـات ..

تم سنين يدرسها .. واكتشف انه مات غريق .. بسبب اثار ملح البحر في عظامه ..

ومن ثم جاءه مسلم وقراء عليه قصة فرعون في القراءن .. وكيف ربي اغرقه .. تعجب .. كيف المسلمين يعرفون هذي الاشياء من قديم الزمان .. وهي اصلا تحتاج بحوثــات بأجهزه متطوره ..

في النهـايه اسلم هذا الدكتـور ..

وهذا دليل من ملايين الادله على اثبات صحة القران مع انه كلام ربي ما يحتاج ادله ..

I am very sorry, I don't know how to read and write Arabic. I tried a free translation to get me to understand, but I don't think I would be able to adequately answer your question. Could you please try to translate the above text into English. Very Sorry.

Lol .. Ok i'll try

Allah portect the holy Qu'ran until Judgement day
and if you notic that from all the 'HOLY WRIT'
only Qu'ran has not been Rewriting by ppl if you know what i mean
one of the Mericels the holly QU'ran have that it can cure sick ppl
and make your soul feel peace as possble

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just read the holly quraan from ( surat albakara ) until ( surat alnas)
and you will find the answers that you are looking for


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actully i Remember a story about a Doctor who want ( Feraon's body ) so he can study and find out what the real reason for his death

He studed it for years and he Descover that his coze of death is drowning
and he found see salt in the bones
and one day a muslim came to the doctor and he read ( Feraon's story ) in the holly Qu'ran
and how allah Drown him .. he was surprised ..how muslims know such things that happend million years ago ..?
and this result takes years and Advance technology to find it out ..?
at the end the man who Descoverd it he is muslim in this moment
Beacuse of his Descovery
and thats a clue of many ( one of million ) that make the holly Qu'ran is perfect and true
100%

Well, are the Injeel, and the Torah Allah's books also? How could Allah allow his word to be corrupted? If you insist that the previous books were corrupted, why would Allah only protect one book and not the others?

I think it happend because Allah wants us to know how Awful Jewry and Christians were.. They went so far .. like killing thier messengers and so on ..

But Allah knows the real reason..

Wait ..!!!

Are you really a muslim?!??!

These are the kinds of reasons that my parents used to give me. They told me because it is God's will and God can do whatever he wants, but these reasons did not satisfy me there was no logic in God making different religions to worship him. What would be the point? It seems as though these religions were different enough that the followers were willing to kill each other to prove that they were right. But I have to ask you if the Torah and Injeel were corrupted when was it corrupted? Who corrupted it? How did they corrupt it? Why did they corrupt it? Sorry, once again these are the kinds of questions that my family and friends could only say it's in the Qu'ran so it must be true.

I'm guessing that you believe that Allah gave us the Qu'ran, which is why I included a follow up question in my previous post, where I asked you what did Allah give us?

I'm glad I'm agnostic.

Watching people attempt to either prove or disprove the existence of an all seeing, omnipotent god - something that can't be done - looks both painful and redundant in my eyes.

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@moritana

I read the NIV version. Sorry, I can't get your version nor can I read/translate it; therefore, the NIV.

Since I'm taking it from the NIV version it'll probably have no effect on you.

Genesis 1:1-3

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. 3. And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.

Light was created in verse 3, but it is from the NIV version so it can be different from your version.

As for the books contradicting itself, you should try connecting things such as the covenants. It's pretty amazing how they all connect despite how they're from different books.