Eh, we all knew this was going to happen.
At that point (last week) I only was hoping to get to see
Kyoraku/Ukitake's bankai before they got beaten by Aizen.

I guess Kubo still hasn't come up with them though...

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Kinda saw that coming, but at the same time, not really. Wow. Isn't that funny though? All of the captains are looking all cool and thinking that they're skewering Aizen, while in actuality they're just stabbing Hinamori. I thought that was kind of funny. 🤣

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couldnt aizen just make all the captans attack ichigo

kubo has some downers in his plot and action, but if he would get serious
i know he can pull something really big and awesome with new bleach plots

i just want to believe that we can see more epic fights [royal guard and spirit king....that sounds so honey-sweet in my fighting loving soul]

but what i really like...

Aizen is one of the best Evil-Guys of ALL_TIME!!, and as much as i hate him sometimes...i really like his style.

[but i will never forgive that he killed halibel/haribel.... 😔
how could you kill lady-big-boobs-blondhair-sexyvoice-cookibell-sama]

and don't like that every espada from 5-1 gets a cool backround story but nr. 3 not
[yeah im fanboy]

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couldnt aizen just make all the captans attack ichigo B/c he can't hypnotize Ichigo into complete submition like Hinamori. Not, to mention she was already half dead.

I though this chap was teh coolz. Even though Aizen is the uber Jesus of shinigami, the way his trick was revealed and when Hitsugaya and co got pwned was pretty damn cool.

I may be the only person here that's not completely fed up w/ Bleach and Kubo's antics, yet. lol

LOOK AT MY WITTY SIG!!11!!!!11

I call this a farce. Cmon...easier plot pls? And he dragged all this obvious sh!t for 2 chapters or so...
bah, hes actually stealing money from his paying readers, i'd be angry to pay for this, really.

And THIS:

Quote from prepareyourself from Chap 391 thread

I don't care how much of troll Kubo is, he cannot use the whole 'it's all an illusion' scenario because he spent the last few chapters hyping Ichigo up as the only person who could defeat Aizen because he hasn't seen Kyoka Suigetsu **So let's say that the Aizen everyone was attacking was an illusion, well to Ichigo's eyes it would look like everyone was attacking thin air, because Ichigo can't see the illusion. Ichigo would know that everyone else was being tricked and he would've told everyone this (he can't be that stupid right?). **

agreed to the utmost.

**WHY ICHIGO DIDNT SAY ANYTHING? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
**

:-( >:-( >:-( >:-( >:-( >:-(

This chapter is a F-A-R-C-E and were being laid by the nose by a mediocre plotter.

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I need a die with 2 sides.

That's known as a "coin".

Oh, thanks. Too much D&D.

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I call this a farce. Cmon...easier plot pls? And he dragged all this obvious sh!t for 2 chapters or so...
bah, hes actually stealing money from his paying readers, i'd be angry to pay for this, really.

And THIS:

Quote from prepareyourself from Chap 391 thread

I don't care how much of troll Kubo is, he cannot use the whole 'it's all an illusion' scenario because he spent the last few chapters hyping Ichigo up as the only person who could defeat Aizen because he hasn't seen Kyoka Suigetsu **So let's say that the Aizen everyone was attacking was an illusion, well to Ichigo's eyes it would look like everyone was attacking thin air, because Ichigo can't see the illusion. Ichigo would know that everyone else was being tricked and he would've told everyone this (he can't be that stupid right?). **

agreed to the utmost.

**WHY ICHIGO DIDNT SAY ANYTHING? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
**
>:-( >:-( >:-( >:-( >:-( >:-(

This chapter is a F-A-R-C-E and were being laid by the nose by a mediocre plotter.

LOL

Wow, I feel very sick right now.
I will give Kubo credit for taking my emotions sky high in the previous chapter then immediately send them straight down in this one. He has never failed to get under my skin since the beginning, both in a positive and a negative way.

Can't wait for the next chapter...

So, I've been thinking about it...is there some specific reason that Aizen screws with Hitsugaya so much? Did Momo talk about him too much, while she was with Aizen or something? I have always hated Hitsugaya, but I almost feel sorry for him now. Oh and, is Hitsugaya in love with Momo or is it more of a brother/sister relationship? I can't really tell.

Also, if Aizen can pull this off while Ichigo is watching, then what was he doing before Ichigo got there? Were the Espada even there? That was a year or so of chapters that could turn out to be all an illusion....that's pretty f-ed up if you think about it.

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The newbie here again.. I'd like to point out my reply in c.391.

In short. Even if Ichigo isn't affected by the hypnosis, everyone else is and thus Aizen can use his broken audio/video/reiatsu/whatever censorship-ability to block out any warning Ichigo might try to make.

I was just thinking that...

That's a good explanation but doesn't change the fact that Aizen's power is very pointless.
It is almost as stupid as the mangaka that comes up with it... What is the point even continuing this fight (or even manga) when Aizen could just use his ability to make the characters under hypnosis just kill themselves and even the ones that aren't under the hypnosis?

Complete hypnosis of all senses it just retarded.
How do you beat that? And why hasn't Aizen just won already?
No explanation... No progress since Soul Society arc... No nothing.

Easy enough.

Remember the old days in SS arc and the explanations of how Aizen can affect the senses, but SOMETHING needs to be there in order to fool you (Koma getting Black Coffin and Aizen making Gin look like him) remember Aizen can make a log look like him, heck he could do that with an stick, but if there is nothing else besides Aizen and his opponent, then the Illusion is worthless.

This fight sucks because the more obstacles/people Aizen has a his disposal the easier it is to trick others with his Hypnosis.

Want an easy way to counter Aizen shikai? is fairly easy, fight him on a 1 on 1 in a void place (Dragon's Ball time room to make an example).

Then again is quite pointless as Aizen wouldn't fall for something like that.

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Easy enough.

Remember the old days in SS arc and the explanations of how Aizen can affect the senses, but SOMETHING needs to be there in order to fool you (Koma getting Black Coffin and Aizen making Gin look like him) remember Aizen can make a log look like him, heck he could do that with an stick, but if there is nothing else besides Aizen and his opponent, then the Illusion is worthless.

This fight sucks because the more obstacles/people Aizen has a his disposal the easier it is to trick others with his Hypnosis.

Want an easy way to counter Aizen shikai? is fairly easy, fight him on a 1 on 1 in a void place (Dragon's Ball time room to make an example).

Then again is quite pointless as Aizen wouldn't fall for something like that.

Ohh! Finally a quality explanation of Aizen's powers.
Hats off to Chaoswind.

Now that you put it this way, Aizen's powers start to actually make more sense.
Let us just hope that Kubo uses the same reasoning as you (when the heck did Hinamori even get up in the air? Aizen must have switched places with her right after he got out of the fire prison, but it's hard remember positioning of characters ~50 chapters ago...)

Aizen can change what things looks like, so the substitute is acceptable, so is the censoring of Ichigo's (supposed) yells, but what I still don't get is why Ichigo did not just attack Aizen and maybe, oh idk, at least TRY to ruin Aizen's illusions by making it harder for Aizen to concentrate?

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Easy enough.

Remember the old days in SS arc and the explanations of how Aizen can affect the senses, but SOMETHING needs to be there in order to fool you (Koma getting Black Coffin and Aizen making Gin look like him) remember Aizen can make a log look like him, heck he could do that with an stick, but if there is nothing else besides Aizen and his opponent, then the Illusion is worthless.

This fight sucks because the more obstacles/people Aizen has a his disposal the easier it is to trick others with his Hypnosis.

Want an easy way to counter Aizen shikai? is fairly easy, fight him on a 1 on 1 in a void place (Dragon's Ball time room to make an example).

Then again is quite pointless as Aizen wouldn't fall for something like that.

Ohh! Finally a quality explanation of Aizen's powers.
Hats off to Chaoswind.

Now that you put it this way, Aizen's powers start to actually make more sense.
Let us just hope that Kubo uses the same reasoning as you (when the heck did Hinamori even get up in the air? Aizen must have switched places with her right after he got out of the fire prison, but it's hard remember positioning of characters ~50 chapters ago...)

Aizen can change what things looks like, so the substitute is acceptable, so is the censoring of Ichigo's (supposed) yells, but what I still don't get is why Ichigo did not just attack Aizen and maybe, oh idk, at least TRY to ruin Aizen's illusions by making it harder for Aizen to concentrate?

No, Ichigo actually attacked Aizen 4 chapters ago. He would not have attacked Momo. Aizen may have had Momo floating with the captains or something (invisible to them), so Ichigo would not think anything of it, but Aizen had to be there himself. I was thinking that he just moved over by Kira when Hitsugaya got angry the first time, but after looking at it, I have no idea...the only place is see is pg.12 of 390. It doesn't make sense.

Also, I would say that Aizen could fight in a vacuum as well. If you are hypnotized, then he could just turn invisible or something. All senses are under his influence. The only way to beat him is for Kubo to create his weakness.

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I call this a farce. Cmon...easier plot pls? And he dragged all this obvious sh!t for 2 chapters or so...
bah, hes actually stealing money from his paying readers, i'd be angry to pay for this, really.

And THIS:

Quote from prepareyourself from Chap 391 thread

I don't care how much of troll Kubo is, he cannot use the whole 'it's all an illusion' scenario because he spent the last few chapters hyping Ichigo up as the only person who could defeat Aizen because he [b]hasn't seen Kyoka Suigetsu[/b] [b]So let's say that the Aizen everyone was attacking was an illusion, well to Ichigo's eyes it would look like everyone was attacking thin air, because Ichigo can't see the illusion. Ichigo would know that everyone else was being tricked and he would've told everyone this (he can't be that stupid right?). [/b]

agreed to the utmost.

**WHY ICHIGO DIDNT SAY ANYTHING? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
**
>:-( >:-( >:-( >:-( >:-( >:-(

This chapter is a F-A-R-C-E and were being laid by the nose by a mediocre plotter.

LOL

Wow, I feel very sick right now.
I will give Kubo credit for taking my emotions sky high in the previous chapter then immediately send them straight down in this one. He has never failed to get under my skin since the beginning, both in a positive and a negative way.

Can't wait for the next chapter...

You two are missing the obvious point that I've pointed out already here and in the previous chapter discussion. Aizen's ability allows him to block any warning Ichigo might make due to everyone else being under his power, even if Ichigo himself isn't.

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i seriously was not expecting that. though am not surprised.

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Easy enough.

Remember the old days in SS arc and the explanations of how Aizen can affect the senses, but SOMETHING needs to be there in order to fool you (Koma getting Black Coffin and Aizen making Gin look like him) remember Aizen can make a log look like him, heck he could do that with an stick, but if there is nothing else besides Aizen and his opponent, then the Illusion is worthless.

This fight sucks because the more obstacles/people Aizen has a his disposal the easier it is to trick others with his Hypnosis.

Want an easy way to counter Aizen shikai? is fairly easy, fight him on a 1 on 1 in a void place (Dragon's Ball time room to make an example).

Then again is quite pointless as Aizen wouldn't fall for something like that.

Ohh! Finally a quality explanation of Aizen's powers.
Hats off to Chaoswind.

Now that you put it this way, Aizen's powers start to actually make more sense.
Let us just hope that Kubo uses the same reasoning as you (when the heck did Hinamori even get up in the air? Aizen must have switched places with her right after he got out of the fire prison, but it's hard remember positioning of characters ~50 chapters ago...)

Aizen can change what things looks like, so the substitute is acceptable, so is the censoring of Ichigo's (supposed) yells, but what I still don't get is why Ichigo did not just attack Aizen and maybe, oh idk, at least TRY to ruin Aizen's illusions by making it harder for Aizen to concentrate?

No, Ichigo actually attacked Aizen 4 chapters ago. He would not have attacked Momo. Aizen may have had Momo floating with the captains or something (invisible to them), so Ichigo would not think anything of it, but Aizen had to be there himself. I was thinking that he just moved over by Kira when Hitsugaya got angry the first time, but after looking at it, I have no idea...the only place is see is pg.12 of 390. It doesn't make sense.

Also, I would say that Aizen could fight in a vacuum as well. If you are hypnotized, then he could just turn invisible or something. All senses are under his influence. The only way to beat him is for Kubo to create his weakness.

meh, is Mangahelpers all over again... This stuff is past me, as I'm no longer obsessed with BLEACH, but I will try to remember how I and a few more people managed to probe that Aizen hypnosis is not unbeatable.

He can affect the senses, and he can make you think he is not there, BUT as certain Captain showed us in a certain minus chapter, you can still sense him... Your eyes tell you there is nothing, your ears tell you there is nothing, your nose doesn't smell anything, YET something doesn't feel right... remember Unohana. Everything should be fine, But to the experienced fighter/person SOMETHING doesn't feel right.

That is why I am with GIN, if Aizen hypnosis were his trump card, no one would follow him, is his sheer power and intellect the things you should fear, hypnosis is a child's trick (as Hitsugay fell for it and killed his older sister).

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Of course he just stands there watching.

Oh god, this chapter was hilarious.