I intensely dislike abs on a girl or even defined muscles on arms as well. Its all good if you go gym and stay in shape or what not but abs and manly arms is too much.

Interesting to know. BUT I seriously don't know ANY girls who have major abs and manly arm issues! 🤣

It's totally understandable though! I'm a girl and I don't like any of those qualities (i.e. gossiping, intrusive, obesity) in either gender. I know lots of girls give thumbs up for the big abs/muscly thing for guys, but I don't think that's hot at all! 😔

one thing i always wanted to know is how do girls feel about hair ... below the waist....

Is it true that 18-30 really are the "golden years" for some women? Cause I notice how some usually try to look and act older when they're tweens/teens, and then try to look and act younger when they go 30+.

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Is it true that 18-30 really are the "golden years" for some women? Cause I notice how some usually try to look and act older when they're tweens/teens, and then try to look and act younger when they go 30+.

I know it's ironic isn't it? Basically once you can go drinking you stop trying to be older. I think the twenties in general would be the "golden years". You look your best and you can do whatever you want (within limits of course). By thirty gals get depressed, start to look older, starting families, working a lot more... you really have it down pact. 🙂

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This is not limited to the female gender though loose... think mid-life crisis. Both genders express this identity confusion (aged based) differently... and it applies to some individuals more so than others.

As to why females in particular do this, it's mostly the problem with mass media portraying them as sex objects, which gives them the feeling that they are not good enough to be what they are. In other words, old women can't turn men on, and young girls are supposed to (not referring to lolicons/pedos).

This is a very basic answer.

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Is it true that 18-30 really are the "golden years" for some women? Cause I notice how some usually try to look and act older when they're tweens/teens, and then try to look and act younger when they go 30+.

Depends on the woman 🤢
Some age really beautifully, in body and mind, and I admire women like that; they continue to see themselves properly without the influence of media or negative stereotypes. Sadly I think they are rare...

As for acting older/younger: I never tried to act like an adult as a kid, and I don't intend to act like a kid when I am an adult. Being my own age is appropriate 😃

Also, I don't intend to become a middle-class working mother or anything like that. Isn't that just a stereotypical future, propped up by social expectations and the media?

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Also, I don't intend to become a middle-class working mother or anything like that. Isn't that just a stereotypical future, propped up by social expectations and the media?

Not necessarily, but that status is rather easy to attain and if you don't do anything
to stop it, it will probably happen, since doing things mediocrily is the easiest way
to ataraxia.

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Also, I don't intend to become a middle-class working mother or anything like that. Isn't that just a stereotypical future, propped up by social expectations and the media?

Alternatively, you will become:

• a middle-class working woman without children (I am sure this won't make much difference to some people);
• non-working middle-class mother;
• unemployed/low socioeconomic status woman without children;
• unemployed/low socioeconomic status mother.

Which one is better then?

Wow I just turned 18, so now I am allowed to go to this~ 8D~!!

Sooo I gots a question...

Guys, what do you feel about girls wearing makeup? I don't wear any makeup at all... I just don't care for it and wouldn't waste my money on it. Do you find girls less attractive for not wearing any??

Sometimes my mom tells me I'm ugly cuz I don't wear makeup. D:

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Make up is good for a first impression, however, if you are always wearing make up... that kinds of says a lot about your confidence...

Most men would agree that make up is good... as long as you don't wear too much, too often.

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Wow I just turned 18, so now I am allowed to go to this~ 8D~!!

Sooo I gots a question...

Guys, what do you feel about girls wearing makeup? I don't wear any makeup at all... I just don't care for it and wouldn't waste my money on it. Do you find girls less attractive for not wearing any??

Sometimes my mom tells me I'm ugly cuz I don't wear makeup. D:

Granted, there is the other thread for the specific discussion,
but it all depends how the girl really looks. You can't make ugly
pretty with make up in my eyes and vice versa.

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Do you find girls less attractive for not wearing any??

Depends.
Natural beauty is a rare thing though...

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Wow I just turned 18, so now I am allowed to go to this~ 8D~!!

Sooo I gots a question...

Guys, what do you feel about girls wearing makeup? I don't wear any makeup at all... I just don't care for it and wouldn't waste my money on it. Do you find girls less attractive for not wearing any??

Sometimes my mom tells me I'm ugly cuz I don't wear makeup. D:

Not at all. There is a limit. Too much makeup is never ever good though unless you are a natural beauty it will be kinda hard to go from ugly to beauty with just makeup.

Anyways to answer your question nope I don't find gilrs less attractive if they are not wearing any

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Is it true that 18-30 really are the "golden years" for some women? Cause I notice how some usually try to look and act older when they're tweens/teens, and then try to look and act younger when they go 30+.

Not to sound cruel, but women have a very early date of expiry.
Their skin is thinner and thus ages faster then men's and they are very liable to hormones.
The "biological height" of women is between 16 and about 25. After that, they (biologically) only get older. 😉

Women tend to act older in their teens, because the inner body has already turned into a woman, which is not visible due to their young age (some girls start to menstruate at 11 these days! imagine the identity problems!).

I don't understand why woman fear their 30th birthday the way most of them do though, because with the right mind, you can age very nicely and dignified. Plus, you are a woman for everyone to see and will most likely be closest to your inner self. At least this is what I am expecting. 😉

And please people, have you ever met a pretty woman with abs in real life? It is quite impressive and really, really hot if you ask me...