I don't expect scanlators to work like machines without feelings. And they are free to quit whenever they feel like it.
And my problem was that I thought you are one of the people who say "non-scanlator=leecher" and blame all their problems on them who annoy me.
So I guess I agree with you.

I will really like to clarify some things here. There is an announcement that you can read where MF administrator informed all scanlator groups & contributors the actual status of uploads in the site and the extent of the power QC/staff have over the BE. Please read:
http://forums.mangafox.com/announcement.php?f=2& a=49

Also, it's very well know Manga Fox Staff have listed the Scanlator's policies and respect waiting periods:
http://forums.mangafox.com/threads/203259-List-of-Scanlators-Information?p=4798247& viewfull=1#post4798247

What is happening is very simply. Matias is in the White List, which mean his uploads will get through without being hold at the BackEnd. So, I'll really appreciate for you to not throw the blame in others when you're really well aware of how things are. MF QC is not to be blamed for this, not even staff itself. If you want to blame someone blame yourself for requesting upload.

Finally, In my personal opinion, I think this thread will just tend to bash matias what I found unnecessary. And my advice is for you to respect scanlators waiting period or things like this will keep happening.

P.S.: If i can't link please remove the links, I'm old member here but i do not post very often. Thanks.

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And what's the difference? Readers being thankful, while leechers being assholes?
If that's how you see it then I agree with you here. But I don't think that many make this distinction, and call everyone else a leecher.
I wouldn't blame it on the ingratitude because, almost everyone has some small following showing appreciation. So blaming it on the leechers is the same as saying you don't get enough thanks.
That's the way I see it anyway, though I don't really expect people to be nice, especially on the internet.

Props for the public callout (really, I'm not being sarcastic here). Generally it's a pretty low move, but in this case I think the message it sends to the community at large is rather important. Better to give a second chance with public policing than to have everything hush over in 24 hours. We of the angry mobs tend to love to point fingers and carry the culprits to the guillotine ourselves.

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For I am too late to post on that thread since it's already locked.



May I explain something? Even if they have the same owners, the difference for those two online manga readers are the existing volunteer staff in Mangafox which Mangahere does not have. The Volunteer MF Staffs are the one who made the hosting policy that the staff adhere to. Inevitably Noez and staff do sometimes clash and there are times that the the staff especially the QC has their powers in the backend reduced.

You're trying too hard to exculpate them from any blame whatsoever, they're not going to be sanctified (everyone has their flaws, you know), just duly respected by their former followers. They can retire however they please, whenever they please, they just need to heed the consequences. Quitting on a rather convenient note raises suspicions, and they can't all be quelled.

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see here, if the "volunteer MF staffs" keep clashing with the staff of Noez, and would never win. than why do they continue to keep uploading things on mangafox? It is because they dont give a shit about scanlator anymore, and all the ones that clashed with them before are probably all gone by now.

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I think you missed my post, where I clearly pointed out the power MF staff have over the BackEnd. It's not that "we" upload what we should not (we adhere to our own rules, since we established them to start with). It's that we do not have powers to hold what we CAN'T, as i pointed out in my previous post when i refereed to the 'white list' where matias is listed and of that he's very well aware of it.

So, don't come to badmouth people when you don't even care to READ something very well explained already and when even our administrator made a public announcement to let Scanlators & Contributors know how much of a power MF volunteer staff is holding regarding uploads. Here you have it.: http://forums.mangafox.com/announcement.php?f=2& a=49

It's very easy to shift the blame in volunteer staff when we have not responsibility for it, and if you want to complain for the rest about NOES and Mangahere I have noting to say, but MF staff has not blame on it and have always been agreeable to respect scanlators and contributors as we have stated in our rules ourselves.

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I think it's a safe bet that 99% of manga readers are actually leechers who contribute exactly nothing to the community. Scanlators would be fine working for the remaining 1% and for themselves, but then additional complications arise. Eventually, scanlators realize that they're actually working for Jacky Yung, and it's that silent mass of leechers that enables Jacky Yung to take advantage of scanlators. And if a scanlator tries to complain about it, he is greeted with the typical leecher's raging sense of entitlement and practically no moral support from supposed readers. Then they quit.

Whose fault is it? The leechers, who else. I wouldn't blame Jacky, cause it's just natural to take advantage of suckers. Even matias discussed in this thread is a sucker. He did all the work, and Jacky pocketed all the cash. XD

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Dear MF staff,

NOEZ are the bad guys. But you serve them. How is it that you shouldn't take blame? If NOEZ does something bad that you don't have the power to stop, QUIT. If you don't, you are accomplices.

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wellll there's plenty of blame to go... but in my opinion the-one just closed down shi-ki because he was tired of scanlations... it's a tiresome job... and at some point you just get bored and don't get any more satisfaction out of it. and maybe the matias thing was the last drop... but anyway it's a waste of time you guys fighting over something stupid like this... the reason for closing down shi-ki... I checked the post on their site... and the matias thing is only one of the reasons if i recall right. Anyway the guy was warned not to do it.... he said he won't.... and mu asked everyone to check if he does shit like this again... so commenting here anymore is a waste of time...

Anywho..... RIP Shi-Ki too bad another group closed down.

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I wouldn't say 99%. Though it's all about what do you mean by contribute. But even if it was 99%, such is volunteer work. You can't really expect non-volunteers to help, since then they'd be volunteers themselves. Unless you mean moral support, in which case I agree, even though I personally don't really need someone saying thanks to keep me motivated. Which is probably why I don't put the blame on the leechers. So blaming it on the leechers is technically right. Though I find it naive, which is why I think it's stupid.
And it's not only for Jacky, ignoring that there are many other profit-driven online readers, people do read it, even though some guy who just owns the site earns money.

Yeah, it's probably closer to 99.9% XD People who do nothing except read manga on online manga readers. The problem from them is not the lack of thanks (i.e. being quiet) but the garbage they spew when they do decide to say something. Unless the sane well-adjusted readers counterbalance them, any scanlator will immediately get the impression that leechers are doing him a favor by reading his releases, and if he doesn't like something, he should quit. Well, guess how that affects the motivation?

Incidentally, I use "Jacky" as a collective for profit online reader scumbag. I'm not forgetting about others. It's just that Jacky is the biggest, followed by that Alper dude from Turkey who runs mangareader.net.

Personally, I don' t care about leechers anymore, so they won't cause me to quit. For a while now, I've been translating for the guys I work with, i.e. fellow scanlators. But at the same time, if anyone causes me to quit, it will be the scanlation community which behaves like sheep in the face of all this crap going on.

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What a nice business Noez runs, they do nothing and they rake in $1,168,000 a year, even if you take away the costs of running a server it would still be over a million dollars.
Then when scanslators complain about the shit that mangafox does, they make another website called mangahere which is even shitter so that it can absorb all the complaints from mangafox, while simultaneously gaining even more $$$$ because there are people who check both mangahere and mangafox thinking that they are competing sites.
Although Noez are a bunch of A$$holes, you gotta admit this is a genius plan, the best thing being the 99.9% of the leechers willl be bothered to find out about it 0.009% of the leechers who find out about it will ignore it and of those who know about it, we can't do jackshit because all we can do is say fuck you, cuz hacking the site and downing be like a terrorist act, the ppl who take the most damage is the leechers => innocent (kinda) civies.

Well, we love Mangafox. Tried our best not to make it a hell hole for everyone.