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Intent and Action

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16 years ago
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Many people do not recognize the difference between the intent and the deed. I personally believe that the intent should be taken more into account than the action that resulted from one's deed.

Say, for example, there were three cases. In the first one, a man murdered another man, but did so accidentally, without any ill wish toward that person (just think if you were in that situation).

In the second one, a man murdered another man, but was indeed trying to kill this man, and succeeded. This happens almost frequently in our world.

In the third and final one, a man attempts to kill another man, but fails. For sake of argument, it is a certain fact that he was attempting murder.

Who would you prosecute? It falls to the ultimate question, "Which is more important, the intent or the deed?"


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16 years ago
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Well, certainly intention is important, but it doesn't change the fact that a person died in the first two cases. I would say that it's not really relevant in those cases for the people close to the victim.

The third case is different, in moral terms, he is more despicable than the person in the first case. Hate will probably only grow stronger for him, as guilt will probably curse the person in the first case.

I would prosecute them all. As for which is more important, I'm not sure about it òÖ.


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16 years ago
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the second and the third one for sure.
I'm hesitating if I would prosecute the first one r not, but fact is, he still killed a person.so I think I would prosecute him too.
but, if I had a choice in choosing how long/severe the punishments would be, I think I'd sentence the last two longer to jail than the first one.


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16 years ago
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Intent is more important.
I would prosecute the second and third without hesitation. The first man's past would be taken into consideration as well as what had occurred, but I doubt that I would.


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16 years ago
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Who am I to judge?

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Who are you to judge?


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16 years ago
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Intent is much more important than doing something.

But if they have the intent and end up not doing it, that's a different story.

1st. If it was truely an accident, deal with it as such.

  1. Normal laws apply here.

  2. Normal laws apply here as well.


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16 years ago
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  1. Normal laws apply here.

  2. Normal laws apply here as well.

What


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16 years ago
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Quote from Caliber

Quote from Identity Crisis

  1. Normal laws apply here.

  2. Normal laws apply here as well.

What

I think he was refering to the second and third case.


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16 years ago
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I think all 3 should be charged, but in the 1st case I think he should be charged but get a much lower sentence than the other two as he probably won't do it again.


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16 years ago
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Quote from blakraven66

Quote from Caliber

Quote from Identity Crisis

  1. Normal laws apply here.

  2. Normal laws apply here as well.

What

I think he was refering to the second and third case.

I see.


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16 years ago
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Whenever intent results in murder, imho, they should be charged with murder or manslaughter or whatever the applicable punishment depending on why,how and who was murdered - its no good if u instantly kill a very wicked person as living in bondage makes one aware and realize the gravity of their evil dead.and that would be a logical punishment.

without intent manslaughter, I think it should be reduced to life or longtime imprisonment depending on who was killed- if it was a child or a vulnerable party who had no malicious intent himself/herself, then it cant just go on without punishment but maybe not life...

with only intent and no murder- needs counselling and going through the proper authorities- but justice system takes a long time to answer- so its a be-careful..


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16 years ago
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If you ask me... I'd prosecute all there...
1> For carelessness/subconscious psycho attack/psychological problem (possible threat to society)
2> For Murder/Manslaugter
3> For Attempt Murder...

Yes... I'm ruthless...


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16 years ago
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Only explanations are remembered as actions.
Prosecuting the killers would be just for the
crooked justice which curtains this world.

I do not see a reason to prosecute those who
kill accidentally. That's the same as sentencing
a five-year-old for a murder. Shouldn't punishments
exist to prevent dangerous ways of thinking and
lethal plans with the power of fright, not to let us enjoy the permission to penalise?

Potentially dangerous people could be confined, but...

If that person deserved to be murdered,
then, I wouldn't prosecute the murderer no matter
what the intent was. Everybody does not hold the same human
dignity in my eyes. The same dignity as any murderer.
The dead shouldn't be treated as saints.


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16 years ago
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definitely the 2nd and the 3rd are both guilty...

but the 2nd should be executed...the person planned and really did it!! that obvious fact enough...end of talk...no more talks about hope into the electric chair that person should go instantly!!

but as for the 3rd person...its true that he had a murderous intent but it never happened...fate didnt allow it...there is still hope...into the jail and then after 10 years out again for a new beginning...

about the 1st person...you should feel sorry for that person...that should be called a tragedy!!! imagine the darkness of taking another's life...unexpectedly... 😢

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on second thought after reading Mamsmilk's post...it also depends if the person who died really should be killed the person who killed that person should then be a hero...

Mamsmilk is some kind of hero he twisted my point of view on this matter...


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