IMHO the main problem is that publishers think that every manga downloaded is a manga that could have been bought instead, causing them a loss. But, at least for me, there are definitely more manga that I bought after looking at the scans that manga that I wanted to but I didn't after looking at the scans. I read a lot of scan manga, but honestly I could survive even without them, if publishers hunt down scanlation sites they only diminish my chance to find something worthy to be bought.
And I understand mangaupdates position. I think what you chose it's the right thing to do.

What I like in Trivial Pursuit style. Pick your category:[img]http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo233/Reid4891/Manga/trivia-1.jpg[/img]

I think the first one is mangatraders. It's already down since yesterday.

What I like in Trivial Pursuit style. Pick your category:[img]http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo233/Reid4891/Manga/trivia-1.jpg[/img]

a lot of BL gets licensed because of fan liking. outside of that, just look at Hetalia, Durarara (UK/crunchyroll), Giant Killing.

It's because of scanlators. It has been around since the 70s helping the industry grow. Take that away and criminalize your audience - Lose audience and fanbase. Remember that anime company that sued bittorrenters?

yeah.

yeah first thought mangatraders was just gone because of there server issues but with this article going up almost the same time...starting to worry.

Yeah I'm glad you've taken some sort of action. Removing the DL links is a move that doesn't really affect me anyway.

I do not like where this is heading though. Hopefully it's all just hot air and will cool down in a couple of months...hopefully.

i've read a few thousand mangas and the few i actually bought .. i didn't even read. only ones being kurogane vol 4+5 cause they weren't scanned at the time. and even them i reread when they were scanned. i'm a friggin computer junk and i hate paper. FCK PAPER FCK OFFLINE RELEASES MAKE THEM CHEAPER AND DIGITAL. if it wasn't for scanlations+fansubs, i wouldn't even read manga or watch anime. can't be arsed to buy shit to see it's utter shit i wasted money on. and what the fck, am i fcking bill gates? a volume of manga costs 9+ € in germany (and german translations suck d*ck). naruto 51 volumes. bleach 45 volumes. one piece 58 volumes. who the fck could afford something like this? even if you sell em after you read them. manga and manhwa cost something like 3 € per volume in korea/japan.. and average income between germany and japan shouldn't be that big..

same with the music industry. those publishing labels getting all the money, not going with the time and even when they do like years after, they do it with shit quality, shit copy protection and shit file formats so you can't play them the way you like it and all that for close to the same price as a regular cd? go fck yourself d*cks

now concerning the news. i really don't like the fact that anonymous scanlations aren't listed anymore. no release links? i couldn't care less. i get my dope through irc, forums, dedicated download pages as long as i know there's something new

yes i'm a cheap cussing turd with superfical knowledge that wants everything for free

Yea, if Manga world went digital and much cheaper, I couldn't hope for more. I reckon that's how scanlation would die off.

getting a bit ot but still.. katydid wrote in kotonohas commments: "but how are they ever going to justify printing anything more “exotic” if they can’t even turn a profit on something supposedly mainstream (e.g. the Shonen Jump titles) because everybody and their grandma already read it the same day it came out in Japan?" why won't jap publishers just license their manga blank the day it's released in jap so english publishers can dish out digital manga with the best translations and quality you could imagine the same day? user should be able to create an account and subscribe to certain channels for small appropriate bucks and get a reading flat for those manga. make it hard to rip for most people and you're good to go. mangastream+binktopia manage to release good quality scans the same day it's in the book store in jap. why shouldn't big publishers be able to do so too?

This palce is like a Central Archive for manga, and such it should remain.
The hosting site's can be the libraries

I've only used those links to read the latest releases of Mangastream or to make contact with other groups to ask them something, so it wont affect me much

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I don't know about everyone else, but $10+ for a volume of manga even without shipping is an insult to me as a consumer. That $10 gets me maybe 20 minutes worth of reading time. I've far better ways to spend my money. And until the industry realizes that, competing with FREE just isn't going to work well.

Honestly, I never liked DL links anyway. Maybe now people will start joining scanlation IRC's to help keep the community active, instead of just having hundreds of leechers using mediafire links.

This is just stupid, I really don't think MU is among those 30 sites that are targeted by publishers. You guys are just overreacting.

Oh well, I can live without DL links.

Better to be safe than sorry

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Oh shit, Mangatraders has been down for several days. So, they are gone then?

I doubt that. Google "manga" and a link to MU is at #10.

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