blackbeard no haki?!
15 years ago
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he can't use haki?!
He had to use the darkness fruit to hit ace, no haki.
If he did have haki why didn't he use it against ace, and possibly take less damage.
He should be at least as strong if not stronger than hancock, who can use haki.
maybe he can he just doesn't use it?
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good question
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No, he can't. Well, he certainly can't use Emperor's Haki. Only a select few can use it, and Whitebeard pretty much stated that he's not one of them. The other two types of Haki, well, you can learn to use those, according to Rayleigh. However, he justs doesn't seem like the type of person who will ever learn to use Haki. If he could use it, he probably wouldn't have been so eager to get that Devil Fruit.
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Haki is acquired by hard work right? (except the emperor's)
I can't picture him working hard.
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No, he can't. Well, he certainly can't use Emperor's Haki. Only a select few can use it, and Whitebeard pretty much stated that he's not one of them. The other two types of Haki, well, you can learn to use those, according to Rayleigh. However, he justs doesn't seem like the type of person who will ever learn to use Haki. If he could use it, he probably wouldn't have been so eager to get that Devil Fruit.
so basically he's weaker than hancock. Cause hancock has the emporer's haki.
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No, he can't. Well, he certainly can't use Emperor's Haki. Only a select few can use it, and Whitebeard pretty much stated that he's not one of them. The other two types of Haki, well, you can learn to use those, according to Rayleigh. However, he justs doesn't seem like the type of person who will ever learn to use Haki. If he could use it, he probably wouldn't have been so eager to get that Devil Fruit.
Pretty sure whitebeard said Teach isn't one of those chosen by "the will of D" even though he has D in his name and nothing about haki.
Blackbeard hasn't demonstrated any bit of haki use so far, he does know about it though he hasn't shown any aptitude for it nor desire.
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so basically he's weaker than hancock. Cause hancock has the emporer's haki.
That's a gross understatement about the guy who defeated Ace and gave Shanks his signature scars, both with disposition for the color of the emperor. He could have easily been one of Whitebeard's division captains if he wanted to.
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so basically he's weaker than hancock. Cause hancock has the emporer's haki.
That's a gross understatement about the guy who defeated Ace and gave Shanks his signature scars, both with disposition for the color of the emperor. He could have easily been one of Whitebeard's division captains if he wanted to.
True. Haki is by no means all-powerful (as seen with Rayliegh and Kizaru) and having two devil fruits is certainly a strong power to rival Haoshoku haki users.
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so basically he's weaker than hancock. Cause hancock has the emporer's haki.
That's a gross understatement about the guy who defeated Ace and gave Shanks his signature scars, both with disposition for the color of the emperor. He could have easily been one of Whitebeard's division captains if he wanted to.
hancock's power couldn't be just the mero mero and haki.....her combat prowess must be much higher having seen her treat smoker like a sewer rat oughta give u some clue of her power 😀 😀 😀
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No, he can't. Well, he certainly can't use Emperor's Haki. Only a select few can use it, and Whitebeard pretty much stated that he's not one of them. The other two types of Haki, well, you can learn to use those, according to Rayleigh. However, he justs doesn't seem like the type of person who will ever learn to use Haki. If he could use it, he probably wouldn't have been so eager to get that Devil Fruit.
so basically he's weaker than hancock. Cause hancock has the emporer's haki.
Not even close. Blackbeard doesn't have Haki, but he does have the power of Darkness which is a very deadly power as it is, and he now has Whitebeard's power, and we've seen how powerful that ability is. He is the only person that has the ability of two Devil Fruits. Also, even though he can't use Haki, his Darkness power (I forget the name) has the ability to take away others Devil Fruit powers, meaning he has no trouble dealing damage to Logia-type users.
You do not need Emperor's Haki to be strong. If we were to go by your logic, then that means that Coby is stronger than Blackbeard, too, since he also possesses Emperor's Haki. However, we know that is far from the truth.
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Pretty sure whitebeard said Teach isn't one of those chosen by "the will of D" even though he has D in his name and nothing about haki.
Yea, that is what he said. I just made the connection that if he wasn't one of those chosen by the "Will of D" then he also wasn't chosen to possess Emperor's Haki. That's also why I said "pretty much". I just assumed they were connected.
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You do not need Emperor's Haki to be strong. If we were to go by your logic, then that means that Coby is stronger than Blackbeard, too, since he also possesses Emperor's Haki. However, we know that is far from the truth.
He doesn't have the Conqueror's haki, he has mantra haki (color of observation or something like that)
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You do not need Emperor's Haki to be strong. If we were to go by your logic, then that means that Coby is stronger than Blackbeard, too, since he also possesses Emperor's Haki. However, we know that is far from the truth.
Yeah, Coby's like Aisa at best, maybe Enel level if he pushes it but not CoC.
Though any sort of haki user should be able to beat blackbeard, considering he doesn't have any defenses against physical attacks nor is he an ultra strong hand to hand fighter (he still uses guns). At the point 2 years ago we can probably assume blackbeard is not a haki user nor is he adept at using any of them...though now we'll have to wait and see how much he's changed in the 2 years gap.
Also, the darkness fruit only disables devil fruit powers, it doesn't negate normal physical attacks or haki attacks. Blackbeard beat Ace because Ace was too reliant on his logia powers and was caught by surprise, but Hancock can still kick the crap out of Blackbeard since her strongest attacks are infused with Haki while the mero fruit acts as a secondary weapon of mass destruction.
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No, he can't. Well, he certainly can't use Emperor's Haki. Only a select few can use it, and Whitebeard pretty much stated that he's not one of them. The other two types of Haki, well, you can learn to use those, according to Rayleigh. However, he justs doesn't seem like the type of person who will ever learn to use Haki. If he could use it, he probably wouldn't have been so eager to get that Devil Fruit.
so basically he's weaker than hancock. Cause hancock has the emporer's haki.
Not even close. Blackbeard doesn't have Haki, but he does have the power of Darkness which is a very deadly power as it is, and he now has Whitebeard's power, and we've seen how powerful that ability is. He is the only person that has the ability of two Devil Fruits. Also, even though he can't use Haki, his Darkness power (I forget the name) has the ability to take away others Devil Fruit powers, meaning he has no trouble dealing damage to Logia-type users.
You do not need Emperor's Haki to be strong. If we were to go by your logic, then that means that Coby is stronger than Blackbeard, too, since he also possesses Emperor's Haki. However, we know that is far from the truth.
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Pretty sure whitebeard said Teach isn't one of those chosen by "the will of D" even though he has D in his name and nothing about haki.
Yea, that is what he said. I just made the connection that if he wasn't one of those chosen by the "Will of D" then he also wasn't chosen to possess Emperor's Haki. That's also why I said "pretty much". I just assumed they were connected.
ok fist of all I didn't mean blackbeard is weaker than hancock, but having Haki is clearly the thing that separates the great and the elite.
I thought coby has haki but not the emporer one. Maybe I'm wrong.
And the darkness power is a danger to others and blackbeard, cause one day maybe he takes too much damage and something happens, so while it is crazy powerful it is by no means the best power.
As for white beard's power it is powerful but that's not why whitebeard is strong, you saw how whitebeard almost killed blackbeard with one hand
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I thought coby has haki but not the emporer one. Maybe I'm wrong.
And the darkness power is a danger to others and blackbeard, cause one day maybe he takes too much damage and something happens, so while it is crazy powerful it is by no means the best power.
As for white beard's power it is powerful but that's not why whitebeard is strong, you saw how whitebeard almost killed blackbeard with one hand
Coby developed the mantra haki, or colour of observation during the battle at marineford.
Having haki doesn't automatically makes one powerful, as there are 3 types and each must be trained in order to do any good to the user.
If blackbeard takes too much damage, he'll probably just die like everyone else...the darkness fruit hasn't shown any negative effects on Teach, then again, Teach is a weird person to begin with so even if the fruit has negative effects on the user he just might be okay anyways.
