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Same Sex Marriages are harmless and could never damage life as we know it... Chemical Warfare on the other hand...

Dude... My life consists of Manga, Anime, Eat, Sleep, Restroom uses, and Comedy... Mass Amounts of Comedy, Until you giggle... or your spleen Explodes..

I'm totally fine with it, I mean they're in love after all, right.

I have a signature?!

_ why did this thread get revived?

Serious topics tend to provoke serious responses which lead to fights, and fights are bad.

I support it 100%, tho, since everyone deserves a shot at happiness.

I don't support it.

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nothing against it.

But just one question why get married in a church infront of a god, that clearly doens't like homosexuals, asking for his blessing? It can be read in their holy books, that supposedly are the word of god, that HE isn't exactly gay about gays.

Then again church weddings are kind of nice if you are into that.

i don't gay people get married "religiously" I think they just want some sort of official government license that says they're married. I know there are probably gay Christians out there but...... idk how they justify it.

anyway I'm all for homosexuals persuing happiness (as long as it doesnt include me in the equation lol).

I fully support gay people marriages. Prejudice is so 20th century, right?!

I'm a Roman Catholic and Christian.... Totally for it, though. I try to treat everybody equally... not so much for the ones I despise... I don't really get why us Catholics are so against gay/lesbian marriage... 'Specially if we are soooo dedicated to 'love' and consider the Church a female, and that makes all of the nuns lesbians and the priests/brothers one of multiple husbands of the female Church...

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Apparently it's okay if you don't have homosexual acts, you can still have feelings for your own gender, as long as there is no sex.

@NIQ
Cause they were probably raised that way, and just always wanted to do that... And "God" loves every one, so I guess he's bi.

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I agree on the homophobic people and the drunkard parents. So true.

Which is why I am thinking of breaking off of the faith once I move out... And, if you hadn't noticed, parents support being gay, they never seem to let you have a sleep over with people of the opposite gender... Ko-winky-dink? I think not!!!... I am a horrible Christian, I don't really believe in this "God"... Raised Roman Catholic all my life, also.

Ah. For the marriage part, since the divorce rate is getting so high, mainly for infatuations, gay marriage would probably lessen that rate, cause most of them are serious and nicer to their lover, they have to be in order go through their life as a gay... Not to mention all the marriages that have been with gay husbands/lesbian wives with a straight man/woman and the amount of divorces due to this. It's rather unfortunate to those who realize that they are gay, but parents are Roman Catholic (not to stereotype) and are so homophobic and raise their children to not be gay and disapprove of it every single time they can (like my parents, 'cept I'm a tentlacle (don't believe in love, but so for gay men sometimes until further notice)

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I really don't get it why people get worked up about this? Are you the one who has to live with the same sex person? No. If you don't like it than don't look. If they choose the same sex person who makes them happy and content then they should go for it. Better to live a life of hapiness than sadness and longing.

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anyway I'm all for homosexuals persuing happiness (as long as it doesnt include me in the equation lol).

yeah! we don't want any uglies in our homo group

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Well this is an interesting topic I must say, some of the responses were well thought out and written, while some others were not so well written or thought out. At the moment, I have to say that I fully support gays and lesbians having access to "legal same sex unions" which give them the same rights, privileges and protections as all traditionally married couples.

When it comes to an actual wedding in a church with a priest, well then it comes down to whether or not that particular church permits same sex marriages. I do not believe for an instant that the government (any government, provincial, state, national or otherwise) has the right to step into the debate and pass legislation forcing a church of a particular denomination to perform same sex weddings if it is against their beliefs. But if a church does permit marriages between gays and lesbians, it's none of our damn business what happens.

If there is one thing I hate, it's when others try to force their morals onto me, don't like gay marriage? Too bad, move to Iran and then you won't have to worry about seeing gays in the streets protesting how they are discriminated against, or asking for the same rights privileges and protections that we straight people have. After all, in Iran gays are hung in public.

Just because a man may love another man, or a woman may love another woman and a man does not mean that they are subhuman, nor does it mean that it is ok to deny them the right to a family and happiness. Discrimination is an evil thing that is not needed in this society, or any for that matter.

Gimme more!!!

Allow same sex marriage (by completely remove everything related to religion and let everyone get married by going to their local city hall). Also let same sex couples adopt. If people wanna bully the kid they will find something to use anyway and being from a "different" family can also be good thing.

This whole debate seems like it should be so much more simple than it is. I mean the bigger debate going on in my country, not just this thread. I didn't read this whole thing and I'm sure someone has already said basically what I'm about to say again, (probably said it better too, but oh well), sorry for that.

As for being "married" in the eyes of the government and all the legal rights that come from it, yes it should be allowed. Call it whatever you like, but the legal effects need to be equal. Anything else is outright discrimination any way you look at it.

As far as being married in the religious sense goes, well that's up to the individual religions and they have a right to be against it the same as gay people have a right to be gay. It may be narrow minded and intolerant, but they have a right to be that way. The problem, as others have noted, is that many people tend to try and force their beliefs on other people and that is very annoying to say the least.

Anyway If your sexual orientation conflicts with your religion, well then you just gotta make choice. I can't imagine why anyone would want to be part of a religion that condemns them, though...

In the end, I'm pretty sure 99% of this is about equal legal rights for gay people and if my country (U.S) actually followed it's own rules then that shouldn't even be debatable.

As for being able to adopt. Yes they should be allowed that too, for the same reason. If not then you're not giving equal treatment. Yes some kids will get teased and beat up and all sorts of nasty things and that's terrible, but it's going to be necessary as part of the path to a future where society does accept it and where kids won't be teased for that any longer.

Changing a society's general perceptions isn't easy and there's going to have to be some that have to take the hits for those that come after. Is it fair? Nope.

So you would sacrifice some kids to achieve that?

nah, you are right. Kids will find any reason to tease others and we shouldn't use other peoples prediuces as an argument.

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anyway I'm all for homosexuals persuing happiness (as long as it doesnt include me in the equation lol).

yeah! we don't want any uglies in our homo group

Hey I wouldn't mind being friends with homosexuals, I'd befriend one.

@Chizuwakamafa: the Church is female? Really? And doesn't all this homosexual bigotry come from somewhere in the Bible? Oh yes:
Quoted from Wiki since I don't know the bible.

Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; it is an abomination.
-Leviticus 18:22 (again quoted from wiki lol)

Anyway the point I'm trying to make is, hating people who are bigoted against homosexuals is kinda bad as well.

Try and empathize with these guys, in their minds they believe that they're saving these "poor lost souls" from an eternity in the fires of hell.

So the next you see a bible thumper, or someone who's really advocating against homosexuality don't be so hard on him.