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5:38 am, Apr 20 2023
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Kinda surprised that more than 70% of people here have had surgery before mmm...
I mean the age demography of this site is rather high so that is expected I guess mmm...

Maybe we should do another age demography poll again soon mmm...

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Post #802006 - Reply to (#801957) by flowinmyboat
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It seems somewhat straightforward from the examples where the line is.

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WTF?

Post #802007 - Reply to (#801958) by LazyReviewer
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Officially, major surgery is when they have to operate in the head (brain and spine, not dental) or torso, since that's where all the stuff that keeps you alive is located. If they had to cut open your leg or remove it, while the surgery is a big deal, it's technically a minor surgery.

So I suppose mouth and nose aren't major either.
Torso seems rather bit wide/vague, though. I have a hard time believing that all torso surgery counts as major
...but I suppose that's why C-section counts as major, despite being (though kinda serious) fairly simple and straightforward.

Though why the poll would consider merely getting a few sutures to be more serious, than pulling out a wisdom tooth, is a mystery to me.

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Post #802009 - Reply to (#802003) by VawX
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The larger number of people having undergone surgery doesn't mean it's full of old people here, haha. I've worked with a number of children and teens who underwent surgery/ies before they were 18. Think of all the young college kids who got drunk, fell, and needed stitches, like docdesanta, too.

Post #802012 - Reply to (#802009) by Karonhioktha
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I was maybe 4-5, I think, when I had my first surgery. No mere stitches. I had to have general anaesthesia.

Post #802017 - Reply to (#802006) by zarlan
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I am a little confused on two things:

1) That is my interpretation and then I tried to give you why I feel it's straightforward to me based on the examples given. It's not meant to be an all-encompassing, rigorously scientific poll.
2) I asked a clarifying question to understand, but you aren't answering.

It's ok to feel and read it the way you want, but actually refusing to engage and insisting your POV is the only valid one is just confusing. I am not even sure what your "WTF" is supposed to mean - I am allowed to have a different opinion on the clarity of the poll. Overall, it's a frivolous weekly poll on a manga site - you're expecting it to have much more detail than it needs to have. What is minor surgery to one person is a life-threatening procedure to another but without disclosing a lot more medical detail, it's not possible to determine that. I'm sorry if it feels like the poll invalidates or trivializes any procedures you've had, but your response isn't productive.

I see that below you made a point on why dental procedures are treated separately - that's valid and it's likely because for some reason in the US, mouth and eyes are treated differently. It's a user suggested poll so it could be the suggester was US-based.

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Post #802018 - Reply to (#802017) by flowinmyboat
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Quote from flowinmyboat
and then I tried to give you why I feel it's straightforward to me

No you did not.
There was not even the slightest hint, of that.
As for point 2: Given that neither the poll, nor you, gave even the faintest hint, of what the distinction is, in any way whatsoever, your request for an example, seems rather pointless and ridiculous.
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it's likely because for some reason in the US, mouth and eyes are treated differently.

I've never heard of anywhere, where it isn't treated differently ...but I fail to see how/why that would be relevant, to the issue of dental surgery being considered less serious, than non-dental surgery, or even just getting a few stitches. (mind you, I cannot, for the life of me, understand how/why merely getting stitches, would even count as surgery)

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there's probably a greater prevalence of manga readers amongst people who've had chronic health issues both for the lengthy convalescence times as well the obvious escapism we all enjoy in curated fiction.

most people might think a c-section is a major surgery; when it's generally done in under an hour with regional anesthesia I guess it depends who you're asking. I think people would say it was major to them.

no one is a healthcare expert; reading a lot of Black Jack you might think your absorbed twin's nervous system is viable outside of your body if only you built them an exoskeleton, then the rest of the organs and development would rapidly form. no, it's just a tumor

for someone who's had perfect health my entire life, I still remember waking up in the hospital 40yrs ago(post dental surgery) alone, with almost all the lights off and blood on my pillow not remembering what happened. It's traumatic to be apart from your parents and your siblings for the first time and be in a place of absolute silence, I had never felt so small before; I had no control over what was going on.

I'm glad modern day hospitals have greatly increased the access parents have to their children in these times, and that fewer young people have to feel the isolation experienced.

Post #802026 - Reply to (#802019) by Sugarshark
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I think people would say it was major to them.

No the overwhelming majority of people would not say that it was major to them!
I think you'll agree, that it's rather unlikely for the average man, to claim that their c-section was a major surgery.
Or, indeed, any women who have never gone through one, which is to say the majority of them.

Not only do the great majority of women who have given birth, not do so through c-section, but not all women have given birth. Not all women will ever do so.
So a minority, of a part, of half of people, have gone through it.
About one in ten, perhaps, who could possibly comment on their c-section?

So to most people, it's something we've only heard of
...and as far as I understand, it involves one or two clear and straight cuts, getting the baby out (a bit trickier than normal, as you need to extract it from a different hole, than nature intended), and lastly sewing things up again.
If that is overly simplified, and omits many further complications...
As I said, it's something I've only ever heard about.

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