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17 years ago
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Do you support or rebuke Capital Punishment?


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I support it, why let a serious offender of the law live even though he/she has killed so many other people? Or traumatized families, or is just not right in his/her head.


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Yes I do.
I believe in an eye for an eye.
Why let a murderer who's commited such horrible crimes to live on while the victim(s)' family members have to suffer such lost?
Then again, I'm no god so my opinion doesn't really matter.


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I definitely agree with having it, but I do think that its something that shouldnt be used if it doesnt have to. I take a more economic standpoint. When you commit an incredibly serious crime like murder, your right to live should then be determined by how much you can still benefit society through the continuation of your life, so if its more trouble to keep a murderer around than to execute them, then by all means bring out the guillotine.

Im also strongly in favor of streamlining the justice system so when a person goes on death row (which should only even be an option if they are clearly and most definitely guilty) cannot just keep appealing their sentence, wasting tax dollars and prolonging their life.


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There are fates worse than death.


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Im also strongly in favor of streamlining the justice system so when a person goes on death row (which should only even be an option if they are clearly and most definitely guilty) cannot just keep appealing their sentence, wasting tax dollars and prolonging their life.

In an ideal situation I might agree with this, but as it is "clearly and most definitely guilty" is something exceedingly difficult to prove. That's why we have the appeals process in the first place, it's simply not possible at this stage in time to discern guilt beyond all doubt.

Call me naive, but I like having the ability to protect people who are innocent. To me, all of the tax dollars that are wasted on guilty criminals appealing is worth saving even just one out of a thousand people who isn't. As it is, it makes more sense from a financial standpoint to either cut down on it general, or eliminate it entirely.

From an ethical standpoint, I don't strongly oppose it (and it's not really something I feel is problematic or anything), but in my book revenge is never really an adequate justification to kill someone. If it's just being done for the satisfaction of victim's relations or something similar, I can't say I support it. So in that sense, it's a bit situational.


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Capital Punishment? Too merciful, but that's before factoring in the cost to support life sentences and prison space.

Short answer before I give it thought: make them suffer unless the governments money is needed elsewhere.

Can't forget the falsely accused either.


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Capital Punishment? Too merciful, but that's before factoring in the cost to support life sentences and prison space.

Torture advocate?


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Thread over here you might want to skim: http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=2554&hl=death%20penalty

(repeat topic)


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Capital Punishment? Too merciful, but that's before factoring in the cost to support life sentences and prison space.

Actually, with the current system it's cheaper to give someone a life sentence than to have them go through the entire appeals process prior to the actual execution.


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Thread over here you might want to skim: http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=2554&hl=death%20penalty

(repeat topic)

Surprisingly, I searched "Death", and that didn't pop up.


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Capital Punishment? Too merciful, but that's before factoring in the cost to support life sentences and prison space.

Actually, with the current system it's cheaper to give someone a life sentence than to have them go through the entire appeals process prior to the actual execution.

That would be dependant on the country in question.


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Capital Punishment? Too merciful, but that's before factoring in the cost to support life sentences and prison space.

Actually, with the current system it's cheaper to give someone a life sentence than to have them go through the entire appeals process prior to the actual execution.

That would be dependant on the country in question.

Ah, right, sorry. I often forget that this is a global community for some reason -_-;;.


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i'm in favor, but not as it is used right now, too risky to kill an innocent.... i think it should be used for return offenders, i mean, one time may be false accusation or an unique situation.... but for two or more sentences it is almost impossible to be any mistake, i see the capital punishment not as much as a punishment but more as a way secure that no person will be harmed by that individual again, without having to provide with food and a roof for the rest of the life of the criminal....


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In an ideal situation I might agree with this, but as it is "clearly and most definitely guilty" is something exceedingly difficult to prove. That's why we have the appeals process in the first place, it's simply not possible at this stage in time to discern guilt beyond all doubt.

Well I have to say there are DEFINITELY plenty of murder cases where the offender is definitely guilty. I mean if a person kills a police officer in a shootout and is shortly thereafter apprehended, hes guilty of murder and there is no doubt. Plus its not so much about the appeals, but rather, ONLY people who are definitely guilty of their crime should even be put on death row, and of course thats only if they plan to be a burden to society while they are behind bars, because there are ways to allow criminals in prison to still contribute to the economy, they can even keep the money and they would still be doing good for the economy, though its better for everyone if they can still spend it too.


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