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I honestly don't understand what's wrong with the world today.
Get on stopping actual child porn and rape and murder and then come back to this if it means so much after, you dumb fucks.
They just want to seem like they're doing SOMETHING.
Ha~ I whole heartedly agree.
Does the government not have other, more prominent issues at hand? I'm sure from a logical perspective stopping actual child porn, rape and murder should hold higher precedence than banning manga. Are they serious about this?
I'm not a fan of lolicon, or shota, it's not my thing, but it's the fact that the government is interfering with this that's the issue.
Why don't they ban horror and gore films?
I'm as inclined to rip out someone's bowels and decorate my house with them after watching a horror film as I am inclined to rape a child after reading a shotacon/lolicon manga.
And just as I am not tempted to buy a gun and shoot people after reading about a crime, I'm not tempted to screw my brother after reading an incest story.
This is a trespass on people's freedom of expression, is it not? :/
Stop actual child porn, lay off the manga. There is hardly a correlation between the two. Manga is a fictional 2D expression from the mangaka, not the real thing. The problem arises when people fail to see the difference between a picture of child and an actual child.
Nisserman states it quite correctly.
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Nothing should ever be censored in any media. If you don´t like it don´t watch/read/play it.
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But when its elementary, under developed, tiny kids, and you're defending manga specifically made so you'd pull out your penis and start stroking it, or start sticking things in your vagina, then how can you defend it.
I don't particularly about it but I wouldn't defend lolicon porn.
So, what? If someone with a foot fetish masturbates to an erotic image of a foot, that image should be banned?
I'm not for lolicon or shota. I'm for freedom of expression and media. The fact is that if this passes, this is only the start; the beginning of government intervention and limitation on something they shouldn't meddle with.
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And let's take this in the context of japan, where people are getting arrested for sticking cameras in schools to videotape people. Where lolicon is actually having an impact on their society and not from your faraway perspective.
For you to say that, you assume those sick people are taking such actions due to the impact of reading or watching lolicon. However, you will have to run a test and a study. Such a statement holds no validity otherwise.
In your words, "let's take this in the context of america, where people are getting arrested for murdering and raping people. Where crime shows are actually having an impact on our society." I think it's about time to halt the broadcasting of television series and the publishing of stories and graphic novels.Last edited by lambchopsil at 12:01 am, Apr 29 2010