What's the best, most literate, most thoughtful comment that you've ever read for a manga on B-U?

This is your chance to express your appreciation towards commentators that have made you pick up a manga you wouldn't otherwise have read, or have solved a plot point for you that you had difficulty with, or made you think deeper about a manga you had already enjoyed, or criticized an otherwise popular manga in a way that was impressively fair and articulate (as opposed to those silly flames!), or just generally gave you immense pleasure by giving you a great comment to read. 🙂 A comment that made you think: "THIS is the ideal comment! If only more manga had comments like this!"

Yeah. The Useful Comment thing doesn't go far enough in expressing what I feel for some of these awesome commentators, who take so much time and thought to express their opinions in a way that is convincing and literary and deeply considered. These commentators make me feel that yes, manga is literature, and anyone that disses manga as being a "minor" or "childish" art form is talking out of their proverbial behinds. 😀

The general quality of a manga's comments can often reflect the quality of the manga itself, so by having the best comments listed here, perhaps we can all find something brilliant to read! You know, the sort of manga that inspires the best comments.

This week, I had the pleasure of reading OppKnox's comment on Nijigahara Holograph:

Quote from OppKnox

On Butterflies and Taoism by OppKnox on June 27th, 2009, 11:31am

Personally, I found it enlightening to read NH again after conducting a little independent research on Zhuangzi, the Taoist philosopher responsible for the butterfly quote Sakaki reads to her students in the manga. NH borrows many of its themes from Taoism, including its juxtaposition of universality and relative duality; its wariness of society and social dogma; and its non-linear depiction of time. Like Taoism, NH seems vaguely nihilistic, which may be why some readers dislike it. Though I am not a fan of Asano Inio’s society-breeds-suffering mantra, everything in NH is thematically relevant. No frame is wasted, and no excess is indulged. Such restraint is unusual in a medium that thrives on overkill, but I found Asano’s unflinching portrayal of disillusionment and hope to be quite poignant. Petty human concerns pale in comparison to the glowing butterflies, which may well be Asano’s inspired depiction of the Tao. His art renders nature both beautiful and frightening. It’s a selective reader indeed who can call his approach violence against women when females are among his aggressors and the victimization shown is neither discriminate nor glorified. The complaint that NH's length is inadequate given the manga’s scope and the characterization necessary to engage the reader is valid, though I disagree. The point, I think, is that the meaning of Asano's work is ineffable, and our interpretation is bound by our own subjectivity. If we wanted to be objective and Taoist to boot, we could argue that NH is neither good nor bad; it simply is.

Rating: 9 / 10.0

Holy COW. O_O Now that's what I call a comment! Informative AND thought-provoking AND a good read! Thanks to this comment, I could appreciate Nijigahara Holograph in a way I hadn't been able to before - kudos to OppKnox for taking the time to do independent research and then to go through the trouble of sharing it with us. Thank you!

So. What's the best comment you've come across recently? 🙂

lol, well, Nijigahara Holograph is like THE TITLE for the elitist, literary folk. 🤣 It has quite some other nice reviews on it if you looked through it. Even though Tokkun rated it a "4", I still found it interesting to read.

I like Crenshinibon's comments too. 😛 And well, there are YOUR comments too. I'm sure lots of people like them. And then there's another commenter called Pearlesque (who is inactive) but left a lot of good comments behind too. Swan is a fan. 🤨 Ohh, and I feel like Monkeyvoodoo (admin and coder of MU) puts effort into his comments too.

There isn't really a "best" comment, IMO. I just happen to have some people that I like
reading reviews from, because I always know they'll give me a different perspective.

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I second Dr. Love about Crenshinibon and Pearlesque. They were actually the first users, whose names I remembered in this site because I often happened to see their comments on favorite series of mine xD

And then there's another commenter called Pearlesque (who is inactive) but left a lot of good comments behind too. Swan is a fan

Hahhaha, yeah. I always say how I worship her...
She's written wonderful comments.

I agree on both Crenshinibon's & Monkeyvoodoo's comments.
Though Crenshi's ratings annoy me, he's got informative comments on a variety of interesting manga.
I like to go through Monkeyvoodoo's GL comments.
They're always informative and nice to read.

I remember reading other good comments, but I can't point them out at this moment.
Honestly though, the most memorable comment I've read was the simple "crap" on Golden Boy.
I know, I know. Not mind shatteringly amazing, but it's fun. :3

I usually stay away from comments on manga like Nijigahara Holograph though.
In my opinion, the impression you get on them is personal.
It's not the same when somebody else gives you a path to understand it.

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Hmmm... there're no "best comments" for me, but instead.. good comments from a variety of different people. After all, sometimes they help inform me on certain things that I've missed out on.

Hmm however, a few exceptions: I do like Crenshinbon's comments since they're very sharp, to the point and very informative. Mighty Maeve is someone else whose comments I like. Pearlesque, too and maybe a few others. I don't know most of any other names since it's been quite some time I actually found time to seriously read comments or to write up something good and not just something stupid or trivial.

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What's the best, most literate, most thoughtful comment that you've ever read for a manga on B-U?

This is your chance to express your appreciation towards commentators that have made you pick up a manga you wouldn't otherwise have read, or have solved a plot point for you that you had difficulty with, or made you think deeper about a manga you had already enjoyed, or criticized an otherwise popular manga in a way that was impressively fair and articulate (as opposed to those silly flames!), or just generally gave you immense pleasure by giving you a great comment to read. 🙂 A comment that made you think: "THIS is the ideal comment! If only more manga had comments like this!"

Yeah. The Useful Comment thing doesn't go far enough in expressing what I feel for some of these awesome commentators, who take so much time and thought to express their opinions in a way that is convincing and literary and deeply considered. These commentators make me feel that yes, manga is literature, and anyone that disses manga as being a "minor" or "childish" art form is talking out of their proverbial behinds. 😀

The general quality of a manga's comments can often reflect the quality of the manga itself, so by having the best comments listed here, perhaps we can all find something brilliant to read! You know, the sort of manga that inspires the best comments.

This week, I had the pleasure of reading OppKnox's comment on Nijigahara Holograph:

Quote from OppKnox

[b]On Butterflies and Taoism[/b] by OppKnox on June 27th, 2009, 11:31am

Personally, I found it enlightening to read NH again after conducting a little independent research on Zhuangzi, the Taoist philosopher responsible for the butterfly quote Sakaki reads to her students in the manga. NH borrows many of its themes from Taoism, including its juxtaposition of universality and relative duality; its wariness of society and social dogma; and its non-linear depiction of time. Like Taoism, NH seems vaguely nihilistic, which may be why some readers dislike it. Though I am not a fan of Asano Inio’s society-breeds-suffering mantra, everything in NH is thematically relevant. No frame is wasted, and no excess is indulged. Such restraint is unusual in a medium that thrives on overkill, but I found Asano’s unflinching portrayal of disillusionment and hope to be quite poignant. Petty human concerns pale in comparison to the glowing butterflies, which may well be Asano’s inspired depiction of the Tao. His art renders nature both beautiful and frightening. It’s a selective reader indeed who can call his approach violence against women when females are among his aggressors and the victimization shown is neither discriminate nor glorified. The complaint that NH's length is inadequate given the manga’s scope and the characterization necessary to engage the reader is valid, though I disagree. The point, I think, is that the meaning of Asano's work is ineffable, and our interpretation is bound by our own subjectivity. If we wanted to be objective and Taoist to boot, we could argue that NH is neither good nor bad; it simply is.

Rating: 9 / 10.0

Holy COW. O_O Now that's what I call a comment! Informative AND thought-provoking AND a good read! Thanks to this comment, I could appreciate Nijigahara Holograph in a way I hadn't been able to before - kudos to OppKnox for taking the time to do independent research and then to go through the trouble of sharing it with us. Thank you!

So. What's the best comment you've come across recently? 🙂

hmm

if you like dressing up
pretentious garbage
with a long pretentious comment
then i think that is a rather good comment

That particular comment on Nijigahara is quite good. Admittedly I'm not quite sure that I agree with it- I think it takes the Taoist religious symbolism a little too far- but in terms of literary theory it's definitely spot-on.

Glad that some people find my pretentious rants helpful? 🤣

Honestly, I'm not quite sure how pretentious, or at least esoteric, Asano is anymore. His books hit top 20 in sales every time they come out, which shows a wide appeal considering he generally writes for comparatively obscure magazines. I still think he's amongst the best though, and yes Doc, I realize that comment was leveled at me 😉 .

Pearlesque probably gets my vote here too. We don't always agree, but the viewpoint is always rational and well-explained.

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I like any comment that uses the word "pablum".

But I like your comments best, tartufo. I wish you would put your lists on public so we could read through them all at leisure.

ah, my favourite comments are always ones that make me laugh, sometimes it's fun to read a comment where the manga is stripped bare and revealed for what it truly is...such as, these ones.

Fushigi Yuugi by Kraust:

Aww, isn't that cute. by Kraust on June 1st, 2007, 4:48am

There was never a story that I wanted to kill off the characters more than this one. I'm talking about massive genocidal tendencies that went through me as I read it. An "off with their head" sort of thing just so I can witness their death.

I honest to god tried to give it a chance. Cross that. I gave it 4 chances. 1st chance I got about 1/10th of the way. Dropped it. Picked it up and tried to trudge through it again, because everyone was claiming how much of a classic it was. Rinse and repeat the process several times.

On my 4th try I was in pain through every scene all the while asking to myself, "Why am I doing this?" and saying, "It can't get any worse than this." Well it did.

I cringed every time Miaka uttered, "Tamahome! Tamahome!" Miaka is the epitome of an airhead. When the anime/manga gods created air, they created it in her image.

I started guessing when the next "Rescue Miaka Operation" was going to happen seconds after the 5th or so had occurred. I'd say give or take within the next few pages. And whatdaya know? B.I.N.G.O.

When you're starting to wish that the bad guys would just get their act together and kill off all the heroes already... then you know it's gotten pretty bad. And in the process maybe the bad guys could somehow trip and kill themselves by stubbing their toes... that would be dandy too.

I got about 3/4th of the way before I just gave up.

I'll probably crawl back to this again someday in the future to finish it, just so I can say that I did finish it, but that will be a long time coming. I've still got this massive, permanent distaste for anything with the words "Fushigi Yuugi" in it as of right now.

Yoru Made Matenai by Celianna

Just the same thing over and over again by Celianna on November 11th, 2009, 12:53am

This manga made me tear out my hair.

It starts with Tsukasa moving in with Haruka, a girl who is 16 (I think), and Tsukasa is 11 years old. She thinks it's cute that she has a little brother now. Until he ties her up, gags her, throws her on the bed, starts undressing her and was about to literally rape her, until someone disturbed them. Haruka doesn't do anything about the attempted rape.

I knew then this was going to be a stupid story. Who in the world just brushes off an attempted rape with a stranger? You'd press charges! You'd be emotionally traumatized! But not Haruka, no, it was just her little (new) brother, after all!

Then comes another attempt at rape, and more .. and more. Tsukasa is very aggressive, and we have no idea why - because he just met the girl. We also have no idea why in the world Haruka is allowing this. He soon starts saying stuff like "I really love you!", while trying to rape her. For some reason, they end up being boyfriend and girlfriend after a week of living with each other.

The story comes at a standstill at that point. All Tsukasa does is try to kiss Haruka, but Haruka keeps going "Hnn..." because she doesn't like it (and even clearly states so). Doesn't matter, because Tsukasa kisses her like every day, and keeps groping her. She doesn't like it, of course. This continues throughout the entire manga - nothing changes about their relationship.

The furthest their relationship takes is that Haruka gets jealous if Tsukasa kisses another girl. That's it. They're still at the kissing stage that Haruka really doesn't like at all. Tsukasa makes it clear he wants sex, and Haruka makes it clear she hates kissing him. Tsuaka eventually noticed that she never wants to kiss him, and for a second I thought the story was going to move forward because he asked her if she really hates kissing him that much.

I was wrong, the issue was glossed over and never addressed again and nothing changed. She still hates to kiss him, and he still tries to grope her whenever.

This manga is just the same thing over and over again, but just in different situations. The relationship between Haruka and Tsukasa never changes, he always tries to grope and kiss her (no matter how many times he promises to 'wait'), and she still clearly dislikes any physical touch (especially in public!). You could only read the first 3 chapter and have read the entire story of the manga already, because that's all there is to it. Just the same thing over and over again.

I suggest just reading the first 3 chapters to see for yourself, then step away from this manga. It's not worth your time.

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There are probably more than this, but these two popped into my head first.