This anime has experienced the biggest fubarage in anime history imho. As for predictions... Suzaku goes haywire, really haywire...

Anyone else find Nina's crazed expression (same as when Euphie died) increadibly amusing?

I guess I am a sucker for sob stories... all the main characters have prominant flaws and seem much more human than most shonen anime (or is this seinen?... if so disregard this last comment) ...

Can you imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie?

I guess I am a sucker for sob stories... all the main characters have prominant flaws and seem much more human than most shonen anime (or is this seinen?... if so disregard this last comment) ...

pretty sure it's a seinen.... it's weird though, because it looks like a shoujo, has the content, plot and complexity of a seinen, and fanservice like a shounen......dosen't get any better then that though

but anyways...ep. 19 was best episode of the season in my book, alot of shit happenend....unexpected shit as well,.....but i must say, with this episode i officialy hate Nina more then Suzaku......like real shit, why the fuck was she crying 😕 ?.....she knew what the hell kinda damage that shit could do, she was the one who built it....and not only that, she tested prior to it being used, now she wants to cry 😕 ?.....fuck outta here

next i have to say, is it just me does it always get to you when you see Lelouch a mess like that?....you know, watching this shit now is like watching a fictional little white brother of mine get into all kinds of deep shit.....i really hated seeing him be betrayed and villainized in this episode, well.....not sure if you can call it betrayal since he was kind of using them the whole time, but for the sake of simplicity lets just call it betrayal.......but yeah, he got fucked over real bad this episode, too bad he cant use his geass on karma and stop it from bein a bitch

alright now onto Rolo,......i hear people saying they feel sorry for him, and respect him, and this and that.....i say fuck that shit, Rolo was a queer from start to finish, i'm glad the little fruits dead....did ya'll forget he killed Shirley?....poor defensless Shirley, who just wanted to help Lelouch 😕 .......not to mention he was gonna murk Nunnaly too if he got the chance.....now i'm no fan of Shirley or Nunnaly, but c'mon now gunning for those 2 is just wrong,.....so yes, that little fruitloop got what he deserved.....he was a pawn till the end, he wasted his life.....i spit on his animated grave, i'm happy that homo time freezin bastards dead

and lastly, that was a good move handling the Kallen and Black Knight situation the way he did......he shouldn't ever lose his composure in front of his enemies because we all saw what happen on Death Note when Light did it......but anyways, i think its all in all fucked up that those Black Knights did Lelouch the way he did........he saved they're life not once, but twice.......sure he's using them to just to save nunnally and off his father, but at the same time they're only using him just to get back japan....it's a mutual win-win deal, they've gotta be F'ing idiots to beleive they can get back japan without Zero.......so all in all i say they made a big time fuck up with they're decision

one more thing though.......shame on Lelouch for leaving CC their, i'm kinda pissed at that.....and also i forget to mention just how gay Sneichzel is, but we all no that so it's all good.....and as far as predictions go, this is a wild one but..........i predict Suzaku and Lelouch will be working together, so look for that to happen

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and lastly, that was a good move handling the Kallen and Black Knight situation the way he did......he shouldn't ever lose his composure in front of his enemies because we all saw what happen on Death Note when Light did it......but anyways, i think its all in all fucked up that those Black Knights did Lelouch the way he did........he saved they're life not once, but twice.......sure he's using them to just to save nunnally and off his father, but at the same time they're only using him just to get back japan....it's a mutual win-win deal, they've gotta be F'ing idiots to beleive they can get back japan without Zero.......so all in all i say they made a big time fuck up with they're decision

It wasn't really a dumb decision- it might've been until Ougi grabbed Japan in the negotiations, or did you not catch that they'd receive Japan in exchange for turning over a person who had been using them the entire time? Mix that in with the knowledge that he's been massacring women and children behind their back (as was said in Kinoshita's report), and using his Geass to order the massacre of Japanese (once again, this is from their perspective), and the entire deal's pretty damn win-win.

Ultimately, Geass is supposed to be a show about how Lelouch loses everything for the sake of power and revenge- it's not supposed to make him out to be a good person yet. The only way it'll end with him regaining some of what he's lost is if he changes and actually works for the greater good, rather than for himself, which is probably the direction the show will go for in the end.

As for the target demographic, it doesn't really have one. If it's helpful, most of the manga adaptations are serialized in Shoujo magazines.

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did ya'll forget he killed Shirley?

It's not that I forgot it's just that I didn't care. : D

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and lastly, that was a good move handling the Kallen and Black Knight situation the way he did......he shouldn't ever lose his composure in front of his enemies because we all saw what happen on Death Note when Light did it......but anyways, i think its all in all fucked up that those Black Knights did Lelouch the way he did........he saved they're life not once, but twice.......sure he's using them to just to save nunnally and off his father, but at the same time they're only using him just to get back japan....it's a mutual win-win deal, they've gotta be F'ing idiots to beleive they can get back japan without Zero.......so all in all i say they made a big time fuck up with they're decision

It wasn't really a dumb decision- it might've been until Ougi grabbed Japan in the negotiations, or did you not catch that they'd receive Japan in exchange for turning over a person who had been using them the entire time? Mix that in with the knowledge that he's been massacring women and children behind their back (as was said in Kinoshita's report), and using his Geass to order the massacre of Japanese (once again, this is from their perspective), and the entire deal's pretty damn win-win.

Ultimately, Geass is supposed to be a show about how Lelouch loses everything for the sake of power and revenge- it's not supposed to make him out to be a good person yet. The only way it'll end with him regaining some of what he's lost is if he changes and actually works for the greater good, rather than for himself, which is probably the direction the show will go for in the end.

As for the target demographic, it doesn't really have one. If it's helpful, most of the manga adaptations are serialized in Shoujo magazines.

yep i heard it, but i doubt it's that simple......if it was simply that easy, they wouldn't be in the situation to begin with, ya know...how would that even look, "well here's lelouch, now give us back our country, vacate immediately and lets fogive and forget".....that doesn't even sound right, one person for one country doesn't add up.....even he if is a super terrorist like Zero........but umm yeah, just my thoughts though.....and on the other thing you said how is that win-win anyways?....the japanese win back they're country and lelouch gets captured 😕 ....lol, what the hell is winning from that situation?

and uhh.....

It's not that I forgot it's just that I didn't care. : D

lol, fair enough.......

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and lastly, that was a good move handling the Kallen and Black Knight situation the way he did......he shouldn't ever lose his composure in front of his enemies because we all saw what happen on Death Note when Light did it......but anyways, i think its all in all fucked up that those Black Knights did Lelouch the way he did........he saved they're life not once, but twice.......sure he's using them to just to save nunnally and off his father, but at the same time they're only using him just to get back japan....it's a mutual win-win deal, they've gotta be F'ing idiots to beleive they can get back japan without Zero.......so all in all i say they made a big time fuck up with they're decision

It wasn't really a dumb decision- it might've been until Ougi grabbed Japan in the negotiations, or did you not catch that they'd receive Japan in exchange for turning over a person who had been using them the entire time? Mix that in with the knowledge that he's been massacring women and children behind their back (as was said in Kinoshita's report), and using his Geass to order the massacre of Japanese (once again, this is from their perspective), and the entire deal's pretty damn win-win.

Ultimately, Geass is supposed to be a show about how Lelouch loses everything for the sake of power and revenge- it's not supposed to make him out to be a good person yet. The only way it'll end with him regaining some of what he's lost is if he changes and actually works for the greater good, rather than for himself, which is probably the direction the show will go for in the end.

As for the target demographic, it doesn't really have one. If it's helpful, most of the manga adaptations are serialized in Shoujo magazines.

yep i heard it, but i doubt it's that simple......if it was simply that easy, they wouldn't be in the situation to begin with, ya know...how would that even look, "well here's lelouch, now give us back our country, vacate immediately and lets fogive and forget".....that doesn't even sound right, one person for one country doesn't add up.....even he if is a super terrorist like Zero........but umm yeah, just my thoughts though.....and on the other thing you said how is that win-win anyways?....the japanese win back they're country and lelouch gets captured 😕 ....lol, what the hell is winning from that situation?

First off, the win-win I was referring to was solely for the black knights- they don't really lose anything from the deal, they get their country back and get rid of a person who has been using them the whole time, hence win-win. And yes, it really was that simple- Lelouch for Japan, nothing more, nothing less. Scheizel apparently thought that it was an equal price, even if it doesn't add up to you. That isn't to say that there wouldn't still be a war afterwards- but they're perfectly capable of handling that without Zero, since they no longer have to deal with the political spectrum. Xing-ke, being both more intelligent and more talented than Lelouch, can easily create battleplans on his own, and Toudou is an amazing strategist in his own right.

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I don't know how "perfectly capable" they would be, I mean they already got their asses handed to them a number of times by Britannia. Without Lulu you saw how well their rebellion was going. I'm sure Schneizel was sure Britannia could quite easily take back Japan without any real problem, especially seeing as Lelouch wasa the glue holding they alliance with China and others together. Especially considering their strongest fighter would probably refuse to stay with them after what they did to him.

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I don't know how "perfectly capable" they would be, I mean they already got their asses handed to them a number of times by Britannia. Without Lulu you saw how well their rebellion was going. I'm sure Schneizel was sure Britannia could quite easily take back Japan without any real problem, especially seeing as Lelouch wasa the glue holding they alliance with China and others together. Especially considering their strongest fighter would probably refuse to stay with them after what they did to him.

Far too many holes in your logic-
-The black rebellion was impossible because Zero left in the middle of it. Given the entire scope of the battlefield, Toudou might've been able to do something, but without any information they were doomed to lose from the beginning.
-The "glue holding the alliance together" stopped being Zero and became the UFN itself- diplomacy is Kaguya's job. Besides, Xing-ke is the head of military strategy (or some similar second-in-command post) of the Black Knights, and not a representative of China any longer, so even if relations were rocky there would be a Chinese in command.
-Schneizel would know Kallen's relationship and choice to stay with Lelouch how exactly?

Like I said, they're perfectly capable of holding up without Lelouch. Xing-ke even beat Lelouch tactically back in the Chinese arc. Lelouch's skills were dramatization and politics more than strategy itself, although he is quite good at it.

EDIT: Weekly TV magazine summary for 20 is out. Spoilered below is my personal translation (it had furigana).

Lelouch, who has lost his place and separated from the Order of the Black Knights, heads to Kaminejima in order to reach a conclusion with the Emperor. Meanwhile, Schneizel believes that Charles is no longer qualified to be the Emperor, so he orders Suzaku to assassinate him.

My editing might be a bit off, sorry, I don't translate writing very much. Interesting stuff though.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't the concept of superior strategy overcoming superior strength been repeatedly proven to be untrue in the Code Geass universe? In every major battle, the side with superior KMF's always seems to prevail, hence why Suzaku with his Lancelot has foiled Lelouch's plans time and time again. The tides of a battle always seem to be turned when a superior KMF is introduced into the battle. Proof of this lies in the Black Knight's intervention with the Chinese affairs, when Xing-Ke and Lelouch use new KMF's and suddenly their respective sides are unbeatable. And even in episode 18 of R2, Suddenly a new Gawain intervenes in the battle and takes out 2 knights of rounds (I really hate how english is used in Code Geass 🤢 , but w/e).

@Crenshinibon: interesting spoiler. It could show some interesting battles in the future.

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Lelouch's skills were dramatization and politics more than strategy itself, although he is quite good at it.

very very good point to make.

but i still love lelouch. i hope he abandons all of his humanity (save a small soft spot for kallen and C.C.), then goes on a montage (team america style), and then goes around straight up murdering everyone who betrayed him.

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I don't know how "perfectly capable" they would be, I mean they already got their asses handed to them a number of times by Britannia. Without Lulu you saw how well their rebellion was going. I'm sure Schneizel was sure Britannia could quite easily take back Japan without any real problem, especially seeing as Lelouch wasa the glue holding they alliance with China and others together. Especially considering their strongest fighter would probably refuse to stay with them after what they did to him.

Far too many holes in your logic-
-The black rebellion was impossible because Zero left in the middle of it. Given the entire scope of the battlefield, Toudou might've been able to do something, but without any information they were doomed to lose from the beginning.
-The "glue holding the alliance together" stopped being Zero and became the UFN itself- diplomacy is Kaguya's job. Besides, Xing-ke is the head of military strategy (or some similar second-in-command post) of the Black Knights, and not a representative of China any longer, so even if relations were rocky there would be a Chinese in command.
-Schneizel would know Kallen's relationship and choice to stay with Lelouch how exactly?

Like I said, they're perfectly capable of holding up without Lelouch. Xing-ke even beat Lelouch tactically back in the Chinese arc. Lelouch's skills were dramatization and politics more than strategy itself, although he is quite good at it.

EDIT: Weekly TV magazine summary for 20 is out. Spoilered below is my personal translation (it had furigana).

Lelouch, who has lost his place and separated from the Order of the Black Knights, heads to Kaminejima in order to reach a conclusion with the Emperor. Meanwhile, Schneizel believes that Charles is no longer qualified to be the Emperor, so he orders Suzaku to assassinate him.

My editing might be a bit off, sorry, I don't translate writing very much. Interesting stuff though.

And relying on a man with a fatal disease, who could die any second, for military strategy has no holes in it at all.../sarcasm Not to mention Xing-ke beat Lelouch on his home turf with prior knowledge of the terrain, had that battle been on neutral ground the outcome would have probably been much different. Lelouch's skills aren't all dramatization he had strategy and inside knowledge that he used combined with the drama to show what was supposed to be an overwhelming front.

I wasn't saying Schneizel knewabout Kallen and Lelouch's relationship. I'm say he didn't think they could stand against the combined might of Britannia with Zero out of the picture. And if they thought about it and looked at how she acted around Zero they could have guessed she wouldn't agree to killing him without him betraying her first. I also feel Kaguya isn't going to like Lelouchs' being betrayed very much, if you'll remember she was one of the first people to know Zero's true identity and she also knew about his Geass, if I'm not wrong.

I think the Black Knights are flat out screwed without Zero. He was the one with the inside info on the leaders of Britannia and could predict how they would move, with out that they are just going to be reacting to the moves they can see and will most likely be drawn into a trap.

It will be interesting to see how the last few episodes unfold now that Lelouch has no major force backing him other than his Knightmare. I have a feeling He and Suzaku are about to do a flipflop and Suzaku is going to go on a killing rampage.

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is this the last season? if so, i might cry heavy tears of sadness.

"When god gives you lemons, find a new god."

I've heard rumors that it will end with season 2, nothing confirmed that I have seen, but then I haven't been looking very hard.

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