The only "bad" people in this show are the Emperor, and the one man who can out dickhead the Emperor Suzaku. I mean Jesus Suzaku really thinks that being a pet of Britannia as the Knight of one is going to change shit.... I would have respected him more if he had only become a dick after Euphemia died...

GOSH DANG IT!

Cornelia is more like construction tools. She's quite badass if you haven't noticed. XD Frankly, she's actually my favorite female other than the main female leads. Unlike fucking Shirley, she actually has guts and strength. People like Shirley and Milly just stand there and yell. I mean c'mon. Even I can do better.

We all know Suzaku the Eunuch is a fucking douche bag who sold out his best friend, which so happened to be the only person who would actually be friends with him when he was little. And he even killed is own fucking father. I mean, no matter how much you love your papa, you wouldn't kill him. Step-fathers are a different story. Oh gosh. Explain to me why he even got in the Knight of Sevens and became friends with people like Gino and Anya. Which I have to say, Gino is quite yummy. 😀 He had no fucking piloting skills. I mean. I'm pretty sure by now that Lelouch could own that bitch with his new keyboard-controlled knightmare. If Suzaku, being the Eunuch that he is, that he ever were to try to control a knightmare by keyboard, he'd pretty much lose the next second. Shows how much skills the guy has. -_-

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I want to say Cornelia is ultimately not a bad person, but I'm not sure she could forgive what happened to Euphie even if it was an accident.

I think it may depend on who Cornelia is facing when discussing Euphie and forgiveness: Lelouch or Zero. Zero, I highly doubt she would forgive. Lelouch on the other hand, could be a different story. Wasn't there even a scene where Euphie and Cornelia were recalling something about who would get to marry Lelouch between Nunally and Euphie?

As for the episode, the Knight of One seems somewhat badass given his stitched up eye (whether he is truly badass or not depends on his piloting ability). I was honestly expecting some kid genius to be the Knight of One, given how many young people in the series are in positions of notable power as well as being geniuses. Anyone think his eye could be Geass related? Possible it could be just a scar, since the Emperor did say to Suzaku that Suzaku was the only one of the Knights of Twelve who had knowledge of Geass, though the Emperor would not be the first to lie. I find it amusing that for the last couple of episodes, apparently no one from the Black Order gives a **** that their "ace pilot" and main offensive force is in the hands of the enemy, instead caring more about relationships involving pedophilia (Xingke x Tianzi) and idiots (essentially everyone in Ashford Academy).

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Just a guess, but I'm willing to bet that the Knight of One has a geass and that's why his eye is stitched shut. Perhaps it went out of control like Lulu's did but his ability is more volatile and can't be controlled with a contact.

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Just a guess, but I'm willing to bet that the Knight of One has a geass and that's why his eye is stitched shut. Perhaps it went out of control like Lulu's did but his ability is more volatile and can't be controlled with a contact.

Wow that is a great prediction never thought of that. Also I think that Cornelia will try to take out geass users now since it is a geass that made Euphie do those genocide. Maybe she'll join forces with the geass canceling guy to get revenge.

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I'm hoping it's not the case that the Knight of One has a Geass. And that his was too strong so he stitched it up. I don't want to believe that but it's pretty likely. Only because I don't want to see my dear Lelouch with a stitched up eye. And I think even though he doesn't use it as often as he used to, I think it gets stronger on it's own. DX

In the next episode, um. Actually, I forgot what the next episode was gonna be about. I read a spoiler about it.

HOWEVER.
In episode 14, Lelouch finds the order/cult. Depends on what version you watch. I watch Eclipse's version because I trust their translations more. But anyway. Lelouch finds the order/cult and "drives V.V. into a corner."

AND SHIRLEY IS POTENTIALLY GONNA DIE! YATA! THE LORD ANSWER MY PRAYERS!

Episode 15 is about Orange-kun going crazy. Wait no. That's not right. He's already crazy. So he'll go crazy to the extent that he needs to be sent to the funny farm, locked up, and his face covered with a mask. But yeah. He goes beserk-er at Ashford academy. Rolo tries to defend the school by going into his Vincent and fighting. It turns into an aerial battle directly on top of Ashford academy. In the meantime, Lelouch is busy trying to save Kallen and I think the episode ends up with Lelouch finding out that his school is under attack.

At first, I thought Rolo was a pretty heartless killer. Now, I kind of like him. It seems Lelouch has changed him more than he even realized.

This is in response to the previous post. BE WARNED that my following post will contain huge spoilers for episodes 13-14, and potentially 15.

First off, the episode 15 summary is off of what I've previously heard, and is inconsistent with the title ("The World of C") and potentially some of the events of episode 13. And for the record, "cult" does seem to be the correct/literal translation, although I also usually agree with eclipse.

Facts:
Shirley does indeed die in episode 13. In fact, her death is Geass related. (I further speculate that Suzaku is the one who kills her, and that it's a result of his "Live!" command in some way, but there's no information to support that yet.) As a result of Shirley's death, Lelouch becomes determined to annhilate the cult in 14, and Rollo and Jeremiah give Lelouch the information necessary to find VV. VV is backed into a corner, and the "demonic Knightmare Siegfried appears". Oh, and the official site recently announced that Charles and VV are twins on the character chart.

Here's where it gets a bit convoluted- there are only 2 feasible situations in which Orange would give information related to the Geass cult. The first is if he joins Lelouch because he feels reptentant about his inability to protect Marianne on the night she was assassinated. The other is that Lelouch captures him and forces the information from him. In the first case, the Siegfried that appears could potentially be piloted by Orange, but he'd likely be working with Lelouch at that point (heck, even Viletta is, it isn't all that far-fetched), but in the second case he cannot be the pilot because he wouldn't have the time or ability to break free and reach the Geass cult, board Sigfried (which you can see in the background of the facility Cornelia infiltrated in 12), and rescue VV. Which would leave me to assume that the pilot is actually Cornelia, rather than Orange in the second case. That leaves a ton of options open for how Cornelia can proceed, including her potentially discovering Lelouch's identity, but I digress and the pilot is unconfirmed.

Last I heard, the speculation was that 15 was a flashback episode due to all the drawings of young marianne and charles, but I could be wrong. None of the new magazines I've seen have said anything about a crazy Orange though, but I could be behind on information.

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Interesting. I probably got the spoilers for the episodes wrong but at least I got the main spoilers across.

Well, honestly. I think Cornelia pilot the Sieg-dsljflkdsf-thingie is very um. Likely. So I'm pressuming that my theory about Cornelia coming for Lelouch's head first before the emperor's is probably likely. I'm pretty sure that Lelouch will somehow recruit Cornelia. However, she's a tougher person to persuade because Lelouch blackmailed Villetta and Rolo was emotionally weak. As for Orange-kun, I think he might be going with Lelouch. However, until the current episode, all Orange-kun could think about is getting to Lulu's head.

Who knowssss...

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Interesting. I probably got the spoilers for the episodes wrong but at least I got the main spoilers across.

Well, honestly. I think Cornelia pilot the Sieg-dsljflkdsf-thingie is very um. Likely. So I'm pressuming that my theory about Cornelia coming for Lelouch's head first before the emperor's is probably likely. I'm pretty sure that Lelouch will somehow recruit Cornelia. However, she's a tougher person to persuade because Lelouch blackmailed Villetta and Rolo was emotionally weak. As for Orange-kun, I think he might be going with Lelouch. However, until the current episode, all Orange-kun could think about is getting to Lulu's head.

Who knowssss...

Also contains spoilers from 13 and 14. You have been warned.

The general issue with her piloting Sigfried (and why I'm hesitant to put it forth as fact or even the most likely scenario) seems to be the fact that either she or the machine would have to be reconfigured in some way, since it originally functioned directly off of Orange's nervous system. I don't know how possible this is or how much time it would take, but if it can occur it likely did. However, if it was reconfigured, wouldn't it be to stop VV, rather than hunting down Lelouch? I mean, she was just told her father was going to destroy the world. She's intelligent and mature enough to put aside vengeance for Euphie for a moment if she has to. Plus, I doubt she thinks vengeance is what's necessary in the first place- she probably just wants to clear Euphemia's name by proving the existence of Geass, which Lelouch could potentially even assist in, especially if he truly comes to hate the Geass for killing Shirley.

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If this happens with Shirley I have to say thank you to the writers. I like Shirely and all but she would just interfere with Lelouch's harem. Now let's all hope the same happens to Suzaku, especially since he deserves it so much more than good ole Shirley. Frankly they don't need to kill her just make her go away somewhere would be fine in my book, but Suzaku absolutely has to die.

It's an absolute MUST that Suzaku the Eunuch die. His ugly face is ruining the reputation of Code Geass. T_____T

If it turns out that Suzaku kills her because of Lelouch's "Live on" directive I think Suzaku will have secured his place as the supreme douchebag of the show since Lelouch only geassed him because he was being a completely retarded fuck. He wasn't really even holding Lelouch there for the sake of his brothers in arms, this fuck was more concerned with not breaking the rules.........Not I've got to help my fellow soldiers no, not something that you could at least respsect instead we get, "It's better than breaking the rules." That is who this dickhead is. Personally I hope it's not because of that order Suzaku shouldn't be able to even indirectly blame Lelouch for that. Please Code Geass writers let Karen kill Suzaku, even if you guys have to kill Lelouch and C2, hell the entire cast just please kill Suzaku first and ten times worse than anyone else including the Emperor. I can't believe I can have this much hate for the character that would be the main character in most other Anime, not only that I can't believe this guy already out assholed the main villain of the entire show; the cause of everyone's problems including his own!

It's interesting to me how a lot of people hate Suzaku even though he's a main character. HOWEVER. He has both the characteristics of an antagonist and a protagonist.

Antagonist: He has that confidence a typical antagonist has. And the mind of a person who wants justice.
Protagonist: Everything he does for what he believes to be justice turns out to be shit.

Oh well. He'll die in the end anyway. Yata! <3

You're probably going to be disappointed if you're waiting for Suzaku to die or change sides. It's exceedingly likely that neither will ever occur. If Lelouch dies, then it's a maybe, but that seems extremely unlikely at the moment.

That said, I encourage everyone who really hates Suzaku to think about what you're position would be with a conflict like that in the real world- would you agree with the war hero overcoming his race to rise up in society or a masked terrorist that wants to kill the leader of your country and destroy your way of life? And although that language sounds biased, that's what their stories are on the surface- Lelouch would very much be a villain in reality.

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The problem is Suzaku would be a bible thumper if this was real life. He has all of the qualities of such a person. Besides let's be honest here Britannia has tried to kill him THREE TIMES now. Once when they wanted him to kill an otherwise unarmed civillian in Lelouch, then when they can't figure out how the hell Clovis got killed they blame it on the eleven and try to kill him again just to save face, and most recently they try to nuke him just to kill Zero! It's not logical to keep working for these people and upholding their precious rules after the first two times. (You can kind of understand the third time.)

But wait it gets worse, Suzaku has not figured out that there is more to the value of human life than life itself. He has not come to understand that being a slave who constantly gets shit on isn't much of a life or in the case of elvens being stripped of your culture and your name isn't much of a life. Furthermore he cannot even respect why people like Karen fight in the first place.

He views the whole situation from a myopic sense of right and wrong that seems to omit the rather obvious fact that Britannia came in there and annexed Japan! He's the kind of person who would have actually wondered why there were all kinds of riots during the sixties in America as black people tried to end aparthied if this was real life.

If this was real life Suzaku would be one of those people who think that a terrorist like Zero just wakes up one day and decides to go to war with the most powerful nation on Earth for no reason......He would be the guy that conviiniently ignores the fact that America pretty much invented Al Qaeda in order to wage a proxy war in Afghanistan against the Soviet Union; by giving them weapons and training to eventually beat the Soviets and then bailing out when it came time to rebuild the country and letting the psychos take control.

He would also ignore the fact the type of government in Iran right now is related directly to America propping up someone the Iranian people themselves did not want in the Sha. All in the effort to make his country of choice seem innocent in his tiny fragile mind. He would never have thought to actually try to remove the reason the elvens even had for backing Zero, he would have simply tried to break their will to fight by killing as many "terrorists" as possible. Euphemia was probably the single smartest person not already on Lelouch's side in the entire show for thinking of the SAZ. She had the brains to figure out how to break the will of the elvens to fight without having to club it to death! But here is the kicker, do you think she would have thought of this without the existence of Zero, and the pain he caused the whole empire in Japan? Even if she did do you think anyone would have allowed her to pull this stunt without Zero being a constant pain in the ass for Britannia that seemed to grow more powerful by the day?

In fact Euphemia is probably my favorite character who happens to fit the whole "stop fighting" cliche since she actually breaks the mold and figures out a perfectly logical and realistic way of doing just that!