Haki

15 years ago
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Well, we haven't seen much of the power of Luffy's crew by now.
But what do you think, will every member be able to use haki by now? Will they probably learn it later? Will only some achieve it or will they never?
I think it would be really cool if at least Zorro, Sanji and Robin had learned it too, but somehow it was never said that they would be taught.
However, there's a chance:
I think all their teachers (Robin -> Dragon; Sanji->Iva; Zorro-> Mihawk) posess haki, but they probably won't have explained it to them. So it's not that likely, maybe, but the chance exists...
In the future they will surely have to fight enemy's who posess haki and Luffy can't fight all those people alone. 😔
I hope it's not a repeat topic, sorry if it is...
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15 years ago
Posts: 320
I would think Zoro is a legitimate candidate for using Haki. I went back and saw that Haki, Color of Armaments, can be imbued into weapons. So, that would definitely be a skill Zoro can use. He would also benefit from Color of Observation, but I don't think he would be interested in Color of the Conquerer, if he can even use it.
Sanji, I'm not too sure. He's definitely the third strongest crew member, but he doesn't come off as a Haki user in my eyes. He would definitely benefit from the skill, but I'm just not sure he would learn it. Same goes for Robin. Actually, Robin has the personality that I would associate with a Haki user. So, I wouldn't be surprised if she learned to use Haki.
15 years ago
Posts: 74
do you really think they would not teach them Haki? EVERYBODY in the new world possesses Haki, not the emperor one like Luffy whitebeard and shank's but they possess it. If they did not have Haki how would they be able to fight at all? The average opponent would be able to tell what they would do next.
I think what you are thinking about is emperor's Haki, which allows you to defend and attack AND foresee what your opponent is going to do.
The haki the rest of the crew will probably be just the noramal one that allows them to forsee a attack. Maybe even defend

15 years ago
Posts: 339
Who says Zoro doesn't already use haki? I mean I know we have been writing off his ability to cut through steel and stuff as him getting stronger.. But come on.. Now that haki has been explained, I think it's pretty damn obvious he has been using it since atleast the skypiea arc.
15 years ago
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Who says Zoro doesn't already use haki? I mean I know we have been writing off his ability to cut through steel and stuff as him getting stronger.. But come on.. Now that haki has been explained, I think it's pretty damn obvious he has been using it since atleast the skypiea arc.
That's a very good observation. I hadn't really taken that into consideration. And seeing as how Haki can awaken in extreme situations, it is very likely that Zoro unknowingly used Haki in his fight against Daz Bones.
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do you really think they would not teach them Haki? EVERYBODY in the new world possesses Haki, not the emperor one like Luffy whitebeard and shank's but they possess it. If they did not have Haki how would they be able to fight at all? The average opponent would be able to tell what they would do next.
I think what you are thinking about is emperor's Haki, which allows you to defend and attack AND foresee what your opponent is going to do.
The haki the rest of the crew will probably be just the noramal one that allows them to forsee a attack. Maybe even defend
Emperor's Haki, properly coined Color of the Conquerer, uses intimidation to disable their opponents, it doesn't have anything to do with defending or foreseeing opponents' attacks. The Haki that defends, and also allows the user to touch Logia-type devil fruit users, is called Color of Armaments. The Haki that foresees opponents' attacks is called Color of Observation.
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Who says Zoro doesn't already use haki? I mean I know we have been writing off his ability to cut through steel and stuff as him getting stronger.. But come on.. Now that haki has been explained, I think it's pretty damn obvious he has been using it since atleast the skypiea arc.
Zoro is only one example. Mihawk for crying out loud! That man must use it like crazy to be able to compete with the likes of Shanks...
I suppose that most upper level sword techniques use haki, whether consciously or not...

15 years ago
Posts: 41
I think that almost every member of the strawhats is going to use some form of haki. Except chopper. And Nami. Also, what about Shanks in the first chapter? When he lost his arm and intimidated the sea monster with a stare, could that have been haki? I don't know whether to believe that Oda had it planned out THAT far back or if he was just trying to show off Shanks's badassery.

15 years ago
Posts: 339
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That's a very good observation. I hadn't really taken that into consideration. And seeing as how Haki can awaken in extreme situations, it is very likely that Zoro unknowingly used Haki in his fight against Daz Bones.
It makes sense seeing as how being able to cut through steel was such a rare accomplishment before the new world. Also.. How do you win a fight when both people have CoO?
I really doubt he had planned on using haki 200 chapters later. But I do believe it can be used as the earliest example of haki. Though I'm not sure why Shanks didn't just use it before the sea king bit off his arm but whatever..
Also as a side note. I'm glad Oda found a way to keep over half of Luffy's crew fruitless...
15 years ago
Posts: 54
Obviously luffy is the only one with kings Haki, but I think that sanji will be able to use it to an extent to where he can at least attack a Logia type, and zoro in my opinion has always been the second strongest. He'll be able to use it through his swords really well like the Guy who attacked the admirals in the huge battle. Its still a toss up with usopp but I think he'll be able to imbue his projectiles with it. I'm more interested in what robin learned working with luffy's father.
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I think that almost every member of the strawhats is going to use some form of haki. Except chopper. And Nami. Also, what about Shanks in the first chapter? When he lost his arm and intimidated the sea monster with a stare, could that have been haki? I don't know whether to believe that Oda had it planned out THAT far back or if he was just trying to show off Shanks's badassery.
...do you understand Shanks at all? His haki is so powerful that just his presence will render the normal dude unconscious.
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Obviously luffy is the only one with kings Haki, but I think that sanji will be able to use it to an extent to where he can at least attack a Logia type, and zoro in my opinion has always been the second strongest. He'll be able to use it through his swords really well like the Guy who attacked the admirals in the huge battle. Its still a toss up with usopp but I think he'll be able to imbue his projectiles with it. I'm more interested in what robin learned working with luffy's father.
Rayliegh, Shanks, Hancock, Whitebeard, and Ace can use Haohshoku haki too...

15 years ago
Posts: 41
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...do you understand Shanks at all? His haki is so powerful that just his presence will render the normal dude unconcious.
My question was pointed more towards whether Oda had the concept of haki planned out since writing chapter 1, not whether or not Shanks is powerful...he is.
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Quote from robbit
...do you understand Shanks at all? His haki is so powerful that just his presence will render the normal dude unconcious.
My question was pointed more towards whether Oda had the concept of haki planned out since writing chapter 1, not whether or not Shanks is powerful...he is.
Your question is pointed towards the wrong person. Only Oda can say for sure...
In my opinion, he didn't have everything planned out at first. Likely he had only a rough idea, since what Shanks used was his "killing intent", which is used in pretty much every shonen manga.

15 years ago
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If the Strawhats are going to be as powerful as the crews of the previous Yonkou (Whitebeard, Shanks, etc.) then there should be some haki wielders that can take on the admirals akin to how Marco, Ben Beckman and Rayleigh (i.e. non-captains) could take them on without hesitation. Zoro and Sanji are obvious choices, as strong as they are and how strong the opponents they face usually are. Everyone else has the spirit to do it, as Rayleigh showed, but it all depends on who would train them in harnessing it. And as awesome as Luffy is, he not exactly teacher material.
But in all seriousness, I don't think every crew member even needs Haki. Aside from Luffy and Zoro (and arguably Sanji as well), the powerhouses of the Strawhats that would probably need Haki sooner or later, I'm hoping that Oda has improved everyone else in their own respective abilities so that developing Haki would be unnecessary. It's an awesome ability and all, but everyone having it would make things rather boring.
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15 years ago
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That earlier comment about everyone in the New World using haki can't be right. Lola and her pirates couldn't use it. That was one of the reasons Moira captured them. To say everyone in the New World can use it is like saying everyone in Japan knows karate or everyone in China knows kung-fu. Some future enemies will probably use it but not all. As to if other Strawhat crew members know any haki, maybe Zolo knows it directly but the others already seem disposed to one kind or another. Nami, Ussop, and Robin use observer haki and everyone else uses attacker and Chopper uses both. They just haven't trained it like Luffy or they haven't been shown to be trained yet.