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RE 5: will it be better than 4?

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No. And before you all try and kill me, let me explain. I think that it'll greatly improve on 4's formula, yes, but I dont think it'll necessarily be better than 4. I think it'll be extremely good and fun to play, but it'll just kinda feel like a highly improved version of 4, and wont revolutionize how Resident Evil is played like 4 did.


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I'll go with you on that. They will improve upon it but it won't be ground breaking like 4 was with the over the shoulder view and all. Just a few new things like your eye sight having to adjust between light and dark areas


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Considering your age, I highly doubt you've played any of the first Resident Evil games.

Unless you've played them all (FYI, I have), you really cannot state anything.

With that said, I think 5 will be better than 4. 4 DID change the gameplay, but it had to happen. The gameplay hardly changed at all in the first two games. Slight changes happend ever since. Unless it innovated, it would die.

Thats what 4 did. 5 will probably add a few changes, but have the same basic gameplay (this is easily noticeable in screenshots and such).

Also, CHRIS IS BACK! 😀

It'll be nice to play as Chris Redfield, again. Although, I am wondering if this means Claire will make a reapperence.

Either way, the story seems to be back on track with the T-Virus and Umbrella. The plot in RE4 was a departure from the normal story of a RE game, although at that time it was welcome, alot of people, including myself, wondered what was going on with Umbrella. Not much was mentioned (ignoring the cameo by Wesker in the Ada Wong minigame).


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Me or Xombie? Cause I've played them all. 1-4, Outbreak, Code Veronica, and one of the fps ones. As for Claire, she's gonna be in a cg movie with leon I believe.

Here's the trailer [url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=Lc6Zl7aE2wA[/url]


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Considering your age, I highly doubt you've played any of the first Resident Evil games.

Unless you've played them all (FYI, I have), you really cannot state anything.

With that said, I think 5 will be better than 4. 4 DID change the gameplay, but it had to happen. The gameplay hardly changed at all in the first two games. Slight changes happend ever since. Unless it innovated, it would die.

Thats what 4 did. 5 will probably add a few changes, but have the same basic gameplay (this is easily noticeable in screenshots and such).

Also, CHRIS IS BACK! 😀

It'll be nice to play as Chris Redfield, again. Although, I am wondering if this means Claire will make a reapperence.

Either way, the story seems to be back on track with the T-Virus and Umbrella. The plot in RE4 was a departure from the normal story of a RE game, although at that time it was welcome, alot of people, including myself, wondered what was going on with Umbrella. Not much was mentioned (ignoring the cameo by Wesker in the Ada Wong minigame).

I dont think you really clearly stated your reason on exactly why 5 would be better than 4. You kinda defended both sides and didnt give a clear answer. But you are right about RE 4's plot. It was a bit too much of a departure. I was getting a bit tired of Umbrella, so I did enjoy it, but just a little bit more referance to previous games would have been nice. And I haven't played ALL the games, but I have played the ones that matter: RE, RE 2, RE 3, RE Code Veronica, and RE 4.


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i've actually played all of them except the crappy FSP one, and even that i played a little bit.

so i will play this one, as well, but i could care less if its better, since nothing can compare to the first three.


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I think it will be better, actually. RE 4 is very disjointed from the main plot, and the storyline could be so much more. I think RE 5 is in a position to do that, because of the return to the main storyline, which should be pretty damn interesting, with Umbrella destroyed and Wesker ready to make his move. And Africa seems the perfect place to do that, with a populace able to be exploited for "clinical research" and warlords willing to pay large sums for the combat-proven BOWs.
And as for the "revolutionary" move to the over the shoulder camera style, yeah, I appreciate it, but I don't think it's what made RE 4 so good. After all, plenty of first person and third person shooters have come out before RE 4, and haven't been nearly as fun to play. Rather, the reason RE 4 is good is because of the way it successfully combines narrative and action.


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I dont think you really clearly stated your reason on exactly why 5 would be better than 4. You kinda defended both sides and didnt give a clear answer. But you are right about RE 4's plot. It was a bit too much of a departure. I was getting a bit tired of Umbrella, so I did enjoy it, but just a little bit more referance to previous games would have been nice. And I haven't played ALL the games, but I have played the ones that matter: RE, RE 2, RE 3, RE Code Veronica, and RE 4.

And?

The question was if you thought I thought 5 would be better than 4, and I do.

Just because of that, do you assume I have to dislike 4 to begin with?

My opinions were clearly written out. Just because I believe 5 will be better than 4, doesn't mean I dislike 4 in the slightest. Although, it seems you believe just because someone thinks one will be better than the other, they nessecarily dislike the other one. That is untrue for most people.

5 will be next-gen. The graphics will be better, the gameplay will refine the gameplay style introduced with 4, and the plot will finally be back on the main storyline.

This alone gives high hopes of an excellent game.

owari333, I was talking to xombiemonkey. You're the same age as I am, however he is 14. Because of his age, it easy to determine that he was born roughly 1993-1994. The first RE came out in 1996. It's pretty hard to play a game when you're only two or three years old. Especially with a Playstation controller, and even more so, a survival horror game.

Most young people like him never play old games (this is based on facts from when I worked in a video game store, and the young people only ever bought the newest games (Indeed, one of them once told me the Super Nintendo sucked and his Xbox was better (BLASPHEMEY, IF YOU ASK ME!), so its highly unlikely he's actually played them.

It's more likely he played the 4th one, and just researched the older ones, because that is the more likely of the two, and he has no proof showing otherwise, then I shall believe this to be the truth.


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I dont think you really clearly stated your reason on exactly why 5 would be better than 4. You kinda defended both sides and didnt give a clear answer. But you are right about RE 4's plot. It was a bit too much of a departure. I was getting a bit tired of Umbrella, so I did enjoy it, but just a little bit more referance to previous games would have been nice. And I haven't played ALL the games, but I have played the ones that matter: RE, RE 2, RE 3, RE Code Veronica, and RE 4.

And?

The question was if you thought I thought 5 would be better than 4, and I do.

Just because of that, do you assume I have to dislike 4 to begin with?

My opinions were clearly written out. Just because I believe 5 will be better than 4, doesn't mean I dislike 4 in the slightest. Although, it seems you believe just because someone thinks one will be better than the other, they nessecarily dislike the other one. That is untrue for most people.

5 will be next-gen. The graphics will be better, the gameplay will refine the gameplay style introduced with 4, and the plot will finally be back on the main storyline.

This alone gives high hopes of an excellent game.

owari333, I was talking to xombiemonkey. You're the same age as I am, however he is 14. Because of his age, it easy to determine that he was born roughly 1993-1994. The first RE came out in 1996. It's pretty hard to play a game when you're only two or three years old. Especially with a Playstation controller, and even more so, a survival horror game.

Most young people like him never play old games (this is based on facts from when I worked in a video game store, and the young people only ever bought the newest games (Indeed, one of them once told me the Super Nintendo sucked and his Xbox was better (BLASPHEMEY, IF YOU ASK ME!), so its highly unlikely he's actually played them.

It's more likely he played the 4th one, and just researched the older ones, because that is the more likely of the two, and he has no proof showing otherwise, then I shall believe this to be the truth.

First of all, I have no idea where you got the idea that I assumed you disliked 4. I know you liked 4, I was just stating that it didn't seem like you gave a clear answer on which one was better. And I have played the games that I listed, not just researched them, and I find it rather insulting that just because I'm young you think that I haven't played and don't appreciate old games. Even if I was too young to play the games when it came out, what makes you think I couldn't just go back and play them? And just because that one ignorant kid said the SNES sucked, doesn't mean you should assume that I think the same way. I've actually played the SNES and enjoyed many of the games on it.


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I dont think you really clearly stated your reason on exactly why 5 would be better than 4. You kinda defended both sides and didnt give a clear answer. But you are right about RE 4's plot. It was a bit too much of a departure. I was getting a bit tired of Umbrella, so I did enjoy it, but just a little bit more referance to previous games would have been nice. And I haven't played ALL the games, but I have played the ones that matter: RE, RE 2, RE 3, RE Code Veronica, and RE 4.

And?

The question was if you thought I thought 5 would be better than 4, and I do.

Just because of that, do you assume I have to dislike 4 to begin with?

My opinions were clearly written out. Just because I believe 5 will be better than 4, doesn't mean I dislike 4 in the slightest. Although, it seems you believe just because someone thinks one will be better than the other, they nessecarily dislike the other one. That is untrue for most people.

5 will be next-gen. The graphics will be better, the gameplay will refine the gameplay style introduced with 4, and the plot will finally be back on the main storyline.

This alone gives high hopes of an excellent game.

owari333, I was talking to xombiemonkey. You're the same age as I am, however he is 14. Because of his age, it easy to determine that he was born roughly 1993-1994. The first RE came out in 1996. It's pretty hard to play a game when you're only two or three years old. Especially with a Playstation controller, and even more so, a survival horror game.

Most young people like him never play old games (this is based on facts from when I worked in a video game store, and the young people only ever bought the newest games (Indeed, one of them once told me the Super Nintendo sucked and his Xbox was better (BLASPHEMEY, IF YOU ASK ME!), so its highly unlikely he's actually played them.

It's more likely he played the 4th one, and just researched the older ones, because that is the more likely of the two, and he has no proof showing otherwise, then I shall believe this to be the truth.

First of all, I have no idea where you got the idea that I assumed you disliked 4. I know you liked 4, I was just stating that it didn't seem like you gave a clear answer on which one was better. And I have played the games that I listed, not just researched them, and I find it rather insulting that just because I'm young you think that I haven't played and don't appreciate old games. Even if I was too young to play the games when it came out, what makes you think I couldn't just go back and play them? And just because that one ignorant kid said the SNES sucked, doesn't mean you should assume that I think the same way. I've actually played the SNES and enjoyed many of the games on it.

yea, no offence to Kaioh or anything, but i gotta agree with xombie on this one, i mean, i am only two-three years older than him and i've played all the RE games, actually, they are the reason i still play games as a matter of fact (well, that and Mario on the Snes, i remember playing that game with meh dad xD)
just because some people are like that doesn't mean all of us are, and i know you didn't mean all of us, but i get a bit annoyed with people just make assumptions, even if something is " the norm" for a group, doesn't mean we all are like that, thats how stereotyping comes up.

anyways, back on topic, i still say the first three will pwn any new RE games.


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I will judge after it comes it out and I've played it. Pointless to imagine what it will be like and comparing it to a existing game.


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[quote=xombiemonkey]I dont think you really clearly stated your reason on exactly why 5 would be better than 4. You kinda defended both sides and didnt give a clear answer. But you are right about RE 4's plot. It was a bit too much of a departure. I was getting a bit tired of Umbrella, so I did enjoy it, but just a little bit more referance to previous games would have been nice. And I haven't played ALL the games, but I have played the ones that matter: RE, RE 2, RE 3, RE Code Veronica, and RE 4.

And?

The question was if you thought I thought 5 would be better than 4, and I do.

Just because of that, do you assume I have to dislike 4 to begin with?

My opinions were clearly written out. Just because I believe 5 will be better than 4, doesn't mean I dislike 4 in the slightest. Although, it seems you believe just because someone thinks one will be better than the other, they nessecarily dislike the other one. That is untrue for most people.

5 will be next-gen. The graphics will be better, the gameplay will refine the gameplay style introduced with 4, and the plot will finally be back on the main storyline.

This alone gives high hopes of an excellent game.

owari333, I was talking to xombiemonkey. You're the same age as I am, however he is 14. Because of his age, it easy to determine that he was born roughly 1993-1994. The first RE came out in 1996. It's pretty hard to play a game when you're only two or three years old. Especially with a Playstation controller, and even more so, a survival horror game.

Most young people like him never play old games (this is based on facts from when I worked in a video game store, and the young people only ever bought the newest games (Indeed, one of them once told me the Super Nintendo sucked and his Xbox was better (BLASPHEMEY, IF YOU ASK ME!), so its highly unlikely he's actually played them.

It's more likely he played the 4th one, and just researched the older ones, because that is the more likely of the two, and he has no proof showing otherwise, then I shall believe this to be the truth.

First of all, I have no idea where you got the idea that I assumed you disliked 4. I know you liked 4, I was just stating that it didn't seem like you gave a clear answer on which one was better. And I have played the games that I listed, not just researched them, and I find it rather insulting that just because I'm young you think that I haven't played and don't appreciate old games. Even if I was too young to play the games when it came out, what makes you think I couldn't just go back and play them? And just because that one ignorant kid said the SNES sucked, doesn't mean you should assume that I think the same way. I've actually played the SNES and enjoyed many of the games on it.

yea, no offence to Kaioh or anything, but i gotta agree with xombie on this one, i mean, i am only two-three years older than him and i've played all the RE games, actually, they are the reason i still play games as a matter of fact (well, that and Mario on the Snes, i remember playing that game with meh dad xD)
just because some people are like that doesn't mean all of us are, and i know you didn't mean all of us, but i get a bit annoyed with people just make assumptions, even if something is " the norm" for a group, doesn't mean we all are like that, thats how stereotyping comes up.

anyways, back on topic, i still say the first three will pwn any new RE games.[/quote]

Yea, assumptions are evil. I think Kaioh just dosen't like xombie. But let me get back to the subject before Kaioh gets pissed and locks the thread.

I think it will be better than 4, because of the better graphics and the fact that the game system in 4 will be used to (hopefully) further the storyline of Umbrella. The plot should be better, and gameplay system NEEDS to add something new, otherwise it would be like playing 4 with good graphics. So yea, I think the direction they are heading is up.


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It should be great, fantastic even, and I'll endeavor to get my mitts on it as soon as it hits shelves, but, I don't really think it'll top four. Not for me, anyways. Even aside from the gameplay revolution, I found RE4's storyline highly appealing, in part because it was largely able to act as a standalone title. It made it easier to play through without having to worry too much about the larger web of RE games. And as much as I do like to find out what happens next along the main storyline, generally speaking, I buy a sequel more for the characters than the plot. It's always nice to be able to take your favourite characters for another spin.

Of course, I've always been a fan of indirect-ish sequels.

Having said that... Yeah, RE5's gonna be awesome all the same. It just won't have the same impact on people that 4 did. I mean, RE4 is often listed among the best games, ever. The next installment may be better from a technical standpoint, but I don't think it'll be able to usurp RE4's place in many gamers' hearts.


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.... Most young people like him never play old games (this is based on facts from when I worked in a video game store, and the young people only ever bought the newest games (Indeed, one of them once told me the Super Nintendo sucked and his Xbox was better (BLASPHEMEY, IF YOU ASK ME!), so its highly unlikely he's actually played them.

Whoa man... I would take a Super Nintendo over a Xbox any day and I was born in 1993 (still love my SNES, though I did lend it to my younger cousin and we never got it back.... cheeky bastard). I think its better to give people the benifit of the doubt and believe him if he said he did, but thats just me and I am always too trusting 😉 .

I also believe it matters in what kind of enviroment you grow up in. Since if you grow up playing with something it sorta becomes what you fondly remember upon. I for one had a SNES controller in my hand since the tender age of 3 and learned how to play from my brother. Since he loved RPGs and platformers thats mostly what we had and now I like them too. So yes, like I said earlier enviroment is important.

But on topic...

I liked RE4 even though I haven't played it for very long. It was a pretty solid game, but I was sort of expecting something different, I have high hopes for RE5, whether I get it or not. Hopefully it won't be overhyped and ends up failing all of us (I doubt it will though).


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First of all, I have no idea where you got the idea that I assumed you disliked 4. I know you liked 4, I was just stating that it didn't seem like you gave a clear answer on which one was better. And I have played the games that I listed, not just researched them, and I find it rather insulting that just because I'm young you think that I haven't played and don't appreciate old games. Even if I was too young to play the games when it came out, what makes you think I couldn't just go back and play them? And just because that one ignorant kid said the SNES sucked, doesn't mean you should assume that I think the same way. I've actually played the SNES and enjoyed many of the games on it.

Yeah, because I am a magical omnipresent being that can reach years into the future and get the final retail version of RE5, play it, develop an opinion about it, then accurately judge whether or not its better than RE4. 😀

Opinions on this subject are all subjective (see what I did there? 😀 ). No opinions are valid until the game comes out. Everything about a game is speculation until you get to play it.

They've said 2009, but honestly, I am more expecting 2010.

I always assume children all act the same. This is because they do. Kids wanna be the cool kid, and have all the new, cool stuff, very few enjoy older games. You seem like that kind of person, xombiemonkey.

Although, I will admit I believe what HoboJoe has to say is true. Invironment has everything to do with it. If you grow up watching other people enjoy older games, chances are higher that you will, as well.


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