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11:58 am, Dec 8 2022
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It's odd that people are choosing Fantasy. I'm guessing most would think they are going to be the elite wizards and not just a barman or a random soldier that dies to an orc/goblin gang.🙄

Also surprised Sci-Fi isn't more common --10,000 years in the future with advanced technology? That's not appealing to people?

Post #800272 - Reply to (#800238) by alidan
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You never hear the story of those who failed, you just see their bones. That's 99.9% of them. The ones that succeed have more to them then just "I'm an adventurer". They're like the Ivy League Olympic athletes of our time -- all the natural talent + training since age 5 + parents with money.

Post #800276 - Reply to (#800271) by neofryboy
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Even with the assumption we won't be an elite wizard, it's still an awesome genre. And the chances of being cursed to a horrible life are about as good as the chances of being the chosen one. Even below average is still a happy enough life.

Sci-Fi? You mean where not only do you not have magic, but there's an AI likely trying to kill you at some point? Or your life is decided for you by a socialist robot (so maybe you aren't allowed to marry the girl of your dreams).

I mean, for all the faults fantasy has, Sci-Fi has just as many, if not more, and far less of a chance to change your fate with your own abilities.

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Post #800277 - Reply to (#800272) by neofryboy
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You only hear the story of the .1% of exceptional adventurers, not because they're the only ones that survived, but because they're the ones that got caught up in the biggest or most dangerous adventures.

Do most people you never hear the stories of die early? No, they just didn't risk that much and probably lived out mediocre lives. Even the significantly better than mediocre lives might not have done enough to get their name recorded in the next kingdom over.

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Post #800299 - Reply to (#800207) by hkanz
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I agree sci-fi would be one of the most interesting. Most of the premises are usually built over a simple scientific discovery and how it's exploited. One of my favourite tropes like time travel is sometimes associated with it, though I'd be fine with the typical new energy or material premises. I also recently read Seikai no Monshou so it might have influenced my decisión.

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often really sexist/dangerous to women

It's a pitty its a recurring theme, but most manga tropes are like that even in shojo ...

I was also thinking about slice of life/Romance, but that would be basically not changing anything and many charters are usually dull or have depressing back stories (not so different from real life).

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More people would rather live in a tragedy than a drama? Lololol.

I wimped out and just picked Slice of Life. To me it implies chill.

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Post #800301 - Reply to (#800276) by LazyReviewer
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Sure, both have things that can kill you, but sci-fi has more conveniences than fantasy.

I don't wanna replace the piss bucket every day.

I don't wanna walk on crappy streets. And by 'crappy', I don't mean the street being filled with potholes. I mean horse crap and other feces. Fantasy likes to ignore the logistics of having horses in the streets, but realistically, it's pretty bad.

I don't wanna find out my long-distance lover is cheating on me and wants to break up three months after she sent the letter. That is, assuming I managed to learn to read or find someone among my community who can.

It's late at night, I can't sleep and I just downed my last bottle of whiskey after reading that letter. I can't pop in to a convenience store to buy more because they don't exist so I guess I'll just cry myself to sleep.

I don't wanna die of an unknown disease. Sci-fi may not cure me immediately, but it can probably freeze me until a cure is found.

I get mutilated? I'd be lucky if some miracle healer passes by. In sci-fi, I could go to nearby clinic and get it reattached.

Downtime? Travel long distances? "Oh look, there's a sheep. Oh, there's another sheep. And, there's a big sheep. Haha look at that small sheep trying to mount it!"

I'm not saying fantasy isn't an awesome genre, but going to one would be more like a theme park. Fun to visit, but you really wouldn't wanna live there.

Inb4 "I'll invent those conveniences then" ...I hope you have some comprehensive background in engineering, physics, woodworking, metallurgy, chemistry or any other discipline that can be useful for that unlike accountancy or computer science. Not to mention, you'll very likely won't have the time to dab into inventing stuff because you're too busy working for your daily needs, whatever it is, since everything lacks mechanization and automation.

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Sure, both have things that can kill you, but sci-fi has more conveniences than fantasy.

I don't wanna replace the piss bucket every day.

I don't wanna walk on crappy streets. And by 'crappy', I don't mean the street being filled with potholes. I mean horse crap and other feces. Fantasy likes to ignore the logistics of having horses in the streets, but realistically, it's pretty bad.

I don't wanna find out my long-distance lover is cheating on me and wants to break up three months after she sent the letter. That is, assuming I managed to learn to read or find someone among my community who can.

It's late at night, I can't sleep and I just downed my last bottle of whiskey after reading that letter. I can't pop in to a convenience store to buy more because they don't exist so I guess I'll just cry myself to sleep.

I don't wanna die of an unknown disease. Sci-fi may not cure me immediately, but it can probably freeze me until a cure is found.

I get mutilated? I'd be lucky if some miracle healer passes by. In sci-fi, I could go to nearby clinic and get it reattached.

Downtime? Travel long distances? "Oh look, there's a sheep. Oh, there's another sheep. And, there's a big sheep. Haha look at that small sheep trying to mount it!"

I'm not saying fantasy isn't an awesome genre, but going to one would be more like a theme park. Fun to visit, but you really wouldn't wanna live there.

Inb4 "I'll invent those conveniences then" ...I hope you have some comprehensive background in engineering, physics, woodworking, metallurgy, chemistry or any other discipline that can be useful for that unlike accountancy or computer science. Not to mention, you'll very likely won't have the time to dab into inventing stuff because you're too busy working for your daily needs, whatever it is, since everything lacks mechanization and automation.


Oh man, some very good points here. Animal and human waste and garbage too. And having painfully rudimentary medical care/a terrible life expectancy unless some kind of mage lives nearby who can heal anything.

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True enough...

Post #800328 - Reply to (#800301) by dreamaway
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I don't wanna replace the piss bucket every day.


Good thing fantasy worlds usually have some form of plumbing/sewer/septic system. Cleaned by slimes in some worlds.

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I don't wanna walk on crappy streets. And by 'crappy', I don't mean the street being filled with potholes. I mean horse crap and other feces. Fantasy likes to ignore the logistics of having horses in the streets, but realistically, it's pretty bad.


Quite frankly, that's a small issue at worst. No one IRL who had to deal with horses literally had poop go uncleaned so much that one couldn't avoid it. Guild quests could be offered to kids without parents to take care of it.

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I don't wanna find out my long-distance lover is cheating on me and wants to break up three months after she sent the letter. That is, assuming I managed to learn to read or find someone among my community who can.


First of all, the love interest usually comes with you. They also didn't cheat as often in less modern settings due to higher moral standards and less exposure to adult material. Second of all, if she's going to cheat you're going to find out one way or another. Probably also in 3 months because she was too scared to tell you right away.

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It's late at night, I can't sleep and I just downed my last bottle of whiskey after reading that letter. I can't pop in to a convenience store to buy more because they don't exist so I guess I'll just cry myself to sleep.


You know, I grew up in an area where most stores were closed on Sundays and at night... not an issue. Knock on a friends door or go to the tavern. Fantasy worlds have taverns that are open. Heck, you'll have someone to listen to your woes.

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I don't wanna die of an unknown disease. Sci-fi may not cure me immediately, but it can probably freeze me until a cure is found.


Fantasy... magic... do I really need to say more? Question: Do you not understand magic comes with fantasy?

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I get mutilated? I'd be lucky if some miracle healer passes by. In sci-fi, I could go to nearby clinic and get it reattached.


Uh, no, the weapon is more effective in the future, so it will likely kill you before you get to the clinic. I mean, same difference. Though with magic, revival is possible in some worlds. Limb regrowth. Etc.

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Downtime? Travel long distances? "Oh look, there's a sheep. Oh, there's another sheep. And, there's a big sheep. Haha look at that small sheep trying to mount it!"


It's called having a conversation. You almost never travel alone and it's not as bad as you think. Travel games and hobbies like writing also exist. I couldn't afford a gameboy so family trips in the car or van were just as boring... with less sheep.

Look, I'm not saying there aren't drawbacks, but you seem to be confusing fantasy with historical medieval as if that's all the fantasy represents. There's also fantasy worlds that take place in modern or futuristic settings, which I haven't even mentioned.

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Post #800332 - Reply to (#800272) by neofryboy
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nah, adventuring would be a bit different, at least irl melee combat it was not uncommon for a no name to take out someone famous, even someone who is good, if ganged up on will likely lose.

now you want to talk about a world with magic, yes and no, would someone who started early have the same ability as someone who started later? yes and no, realistically somewhere around 16~ is when you can really start developing your body, and even then, peak being able to train your body kind of starts in your 20's. for magic well who knows what system I would fall into if into a world with a magic system at all, but odds are I would see magic in a different way compared to everyone else, which may be a great advantage or a crippling curse, imagine healing being able to be used by everyone but because people are so ingrained with a core belief it's only something of the church that they never even try.

I don't really care if I die early in these worlds, I would either die young and in a horrible accident or I would die of old age alone anyway in a safe world, so I will take the chance.

Post #800340 - Reply to (#800328) by LazyReviewer
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Good thing fantasy worlds usually have some form of plumbing/sewer/septic system. Cleaned by slimes in some worlds.


Eh, lots of fantasy worlds are based on somewhere between medieval and age of discovery. The flush toilet isn't invented until mid-19th century. So you'd be really lucky if you drop into a fantasy world with a flush toilet.

Slimes are iffy. Most I've seen that's used it have some sort of tamer. So if there's not a tamer in the village, nobody's gonna use a wild monster.

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Quite frankly, that's a small issue at worst. No one IRL who had to deal with horses literally had poop go uncleaned so much that one couldn't avoid it. Guild quests could be offered to kids without parents to take care of it.


That's a modern concept tho. Again, since fantasies tend to base on medieval era~age of discovery, that wouldn't be the case. Also, having those adventurer guilds isn't really a viable function in the economic system. First and foremost, where's the money that's gonna pay the orphans gonna come from? Guilds are private ventures and not obligated to do public service, that's why public services come from taxes, and you know how most nobility are uncaring about the common populace.

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First of all, the love interest usually comes with you. They also didn't cheat as often in less modern settings due to higher moral standards and less exposure to adult material. Second of all, if she's going to cheat you're going to find out one way or another. Probably also in 3 months because she was too scared to tell you right away.


Guinevere and Lancelot. People are people no matter where or when and there isn't a lack of promiscuity. Also, lots of bastards and illegitimate children IRL and in fantasy.

Also, the point I'm trying to make there is that communication is slow. Most people would want to be informed when something big happens as soon as it happens.

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You know, I grew up in an area where most stores were closed on Sundays and at night... not an issue. Knock on a friends door or go to the tavern. Fantasy worlds have taverns that are open. Heck, you'll have someone to listen to your woes.


Fair about taverns, but the point I'm trying to make there is, well, basically, the convenience store.

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Fantasy... magic... do I really need to say more? Question: Do you not understand magic comes with fantasy?


I understand enough that you need some mage for it lol. If you don't know healing magic or there isn't one nearby, you're screwed.

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Uh, no, the weapon is more effective in the future, so it will likely kill you before you get to the clinic. I mean, same difference. Though with magic, revival is possible in some worlds. Limb regrowth. Etc.


Revival is possible too in sci-fi. Upload your consciousness to a server, then download it to a new body. The difference in fantasy is, again, it's not readily available.

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It's called having a conversation. You almost never travel alone and it's not as bad as you think. Travel games and hobbies like writing also exist. I couldn't afford a gameboy so family trips in the car or van were just as boring... with less sheep.


Conversations run out. If you're traveling in a fantasy world, you're not going to do hobbies until you make camp. Boring is the point I'm trying to make since, in a futuristic world, you'd have enough entertainment to not notice traveling a thousand light years.

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Look, I'm not saying there aren't drawbacks, but you seem to be confusing fantasy with historical medieval as if that's all the fantasy represents. There's also fantasy worlds that take place in modern or futuristic settings, which I haven't even mentioned.


That's fair. If it's a mix of modern/sci-fi and fantasy then that's probably the most ideal livable fictional world. But, when most people think about fantasy, it's the high fantasy with swords and sorcery variety that tends to be medieval-ish.

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