Obvious spoilers ahead

A lot of things were undermined to pull this off.


1.The reason why she loved him was that she wanted to shine with him.I guess a girl is not allowed to shine on her own....It kind of makes the moment where she let go of Keima at 189 meaningless don't you think.She was Keima first love and it should have been that way.And Keima only developed romantic feelings for her cause of his guilt.

2.Elsie becoming human.Not even an animal could write this badly.
It takes skill to undo two years, heck 6 years worth of effort in 3 chapters.If Elsie is not a demon,TWGOK would have never happened in the first place.Whatever forced Wakaki's hand really....

3.Satyr.
Well lets make them less of a threat than Fiore was.

4.Keima
He treats those he met as means to an end.Shunning them for Chihiro.Heck, he is even worse than chpt 1.I wanted to see him be more caring and less self-centred.Even the hardcore otakus probably wouldn't be this cold.You may or may not love them but to just leave them like that....Even Chpt 1 keima had some of the basics of respect.

5.Tenri
Well, I never got to see her coming of age story.That sendoff was pretty stupid.A lame attempt to give her some development .Telling someone to move on does not mean you dealt with it.

6.Chihiro
While you shippers to this day continue to preach the gospel of "normal".Nobody never really gave a damn about her own personal story.Wakaki's biggest fail.At least with every other girl they got to show their individually.I wonder what is worse, moe and the anime industry or a normal girl reduced to a blank-slate self insert.


Last edited by genesic123 at 6:28 am, Jul 13 2014

Everyone already considers the ending bad, but there's some serious hyperbole going on in the title. A whole lot of good (or at least reasonable) manga-ka can't write final endings for shit. Some of the best ones--ones which have gone on so long that, at the time they started, no manga in the world had yet ended at the length that they are at now--still haven't ended in part because the manga-ka is so terrified of what it would really be like to try to make an audience-fulfilling ending. A lot of the pessimistic fans think that the manga-ka are just milking the series for everything they can, but people like Aoyama Gosho already have so much money that they could have retired five years ago, and probably wish they had. Drawing at the expected rate while you're old is fucking hard, which is why a lot of us are terrified of what would happen if Oda gets too old to finish One Piece....

19 of the 21 longest manga are still ongoing, and unlike some special comedy manga like KochiKame, most of those still have "true endings" awaiting; Tsubasa will one day win the World Cup, Conan will one day defeat the black organization once and for all, Ippo will die I MEAN WIN THE WORLD TITLE >.> *cough* anyway. This also applies to novels and television shows. Remember the epilogue of Harry Potter? The ending literally would've been improved by just not having an epilogue, but oh, the fans need to be "fulfilled" with final canon pairings or something. Endings are just hard. Try enjoying the series for what it was before that.

Was this possibly the worst pairing among named characters that the author could've picked? Maybe (I definitely thought it was idiotic). Personally, I felt like the pairing was not because of the author's warped headcanon, but because it was the only pairing that would start the fewest fights between fans of the series, because Chihiro had the fewest fans, period. But calling this the worst *ending* in "the history of anime and manga" is forgetting all of the manga in the world that have literally just *entirely dropped plot arcs and foreshadowing* in favor of whatever the author started caring more about. Everyone and their mother already knows that this will be the case with Bleach, but notable examples of big-name mangas that have done this include InuYasha (which was bad the whole time) and Katekyo Hitman Reborn! (which people were really expecting better of until the last arc).

Not true, so many people think it is a good thing.

Like I have said,I am only talking about the ending,and at least other manga don't set themselves up to be as good as TWGOK in the first place.

I wanted people to acknowledge the mess Wakaki unintentionally made instead of celebrating it so that this mindset could be discouraged in some form.

I feel that he is too good for a writer for such an unispired outcome.

I really hate the "Chihiro is "real" therefore should end up with him" argument.

Last edited by genesic123 at 7:11 am, Jul 13 2014

The pairing is very wise. Keima needs a girl who can argue -with- him, in the same standing point. So that Keima can move into a healthy "real" relationship with normal/ordinary girl, step by step. Well I know "healthy" is term best suited with Ayumi. Argh! I don't know anymore!

UWOOOH!! Elsea is just irresistable♥

________________
XP

To be honest,you chihiro shippers are full of shit.

To a chihiro shiiper,the rest of the manga doesnt matter.Chihiro was supposed to be a subplot,made clear by the song.

You seriously think that anyone who ever had a hobby or passion in their lives are 2D trash.

Chihiro shippers only say that enginners doctors and lawyers are 2D trash.

You chihiro shippers are truly stupid.Its was beacause of not inspite of chihiro that the HOJ happened along with the ending being shit.

You chihiro shippers have been discredited.Stop being retarded enough to justify chihro by saying that she was the point of twgok, when the entire series almost never talked about her and was about facing reality and stand up for what you beleive in.Chihiro is Real just because she has no hobbies.NO!A Basic Bitch does not deserve all importance.Only retards glorify a Basic Bitch.

4 chan is where you retards are hidnng now.I hope each and every last one of you eats shit along with Wakaki Tamiki choking.The silent majority made sure he will never write again!

Wakaki Tamiki is essentially a neet now.Instead of adressing the fans,he posts stupid fancy cake pics and fake hobbies.His twitter is a joke.Crawl back to your basement Wakaki Tamiki.I will make sure everrything he does fails!

Chihiro won and no amount of complaining will change that. Instead of seeing the narrative and why it makes sense you prefer hating on a character and ruining the whole series for yourself. it's sad, really. Get over it .

But wakaki paid for it with his carrer.Everything Wakaki did got axed and there is nothing you can do about it.The ending is a complete betrayal of the themes of courage to stand up for your ideals throught the series.

I will make Wakaki Tamiki quit writing for good.Keima and chihiro was bad writing and no one will dare to try this stupid moralfaggorty again.

Last edited by genesic123 at 5:45 am, Aug 29 2020

How do you plan on doing that big boy?

________________
(◔◡◔✿)

this is the first time I saw someone so salty because of a certain ending of their favorite manga (read: TWGOK) doesn't meet their expectations
the hatred even goes into other manga from the same author, instant 1/10 score without reasons and then back to rant about the previous manga (read: TWGOK)
I guess some people just don't deserve manga and anime

There are some points I must contest. I'll agree Elsie turning into a human wasn't handled well. When I read the series I honestly didn't get how things ended; it felt in some ways like reading the end of Negima. That said, I didn't get Chihiro loving Keima because she wants to shine at his side or anything. That's why she kept crushing on other boys, but Keima didn't shine; if anything she thought he was worse than her but was drawn to how he handled being a "nobody". It was him, not his "specialness" that made her fall for him. And the entire point of her character WAS the lack of a deep, compelling backstory. Complaining that she didn't get an interesting story or character quirk is like complaining that Frodo was just an average hobbit rather than an elven prince. Most people are nobodies in the sense that she's one: while we have our characteristics and our quirks, overall we don't have anything as big and "special" as the other girls in the series or the typical characters in anime and manga, but this lack of flare is in itself a source of character and struggle. Personally I thought she was handled well.

As for how Keima handled the other girls, it was made pretty clear in my opinion that this was a deliberate choice on his part, not an act of callousness. He knows that being nice or failing to make a clear choice would only lead to more conflict and pain for all of the girls. I don't know if he really just leaves them high and dry or anything (just because we don't see him with them after that doesn't mean he cuts them out of his life), but he felt that it was important to search his heart and then make his own feelings clear so that they could all get closure. There's a big difference between treating people like they're nothing and choosing to make what they are and aren't clear to help everyone move on.

I'm not saying this was brilliant, as I said there were parts that were rushed and/or felt like they were left way too vague and unsatisfying (again, like Negima), but overall I'd say it was pretty good.

Ah you delsuional chihiro shippers.If your win takes a time travel asspull and literally killing off elsie and replacing her with a human girl, even a layman just looking at it will know why chihiro x keima is bad writing.

You could see this even today.
Inspite of "Jump" branding and r/twgok intervention,kekkon surutte is kind of a flop.Even Wakaki 's latest manga shows that sane non-chihiro shippers just dont like illogical, random plot developments.

It doesn't require time travel, I don't even know where you're getting that idea. He loves her because, despite not having some deep unique backstory, she's the most unique person he's known. She always keeps him on his toes, surprising him at every turn and throwing him for a loop. She loves him because of the things she's seen in him, the way he, despite being a fellow "nobody", never cared and lived his life as he chose, among other things. This doesn't require time travel, this is just a natural progression.

Frankly, it sounds like you're putting the blame on the Chihiro X Keima ship for all the plot problems that happened near the end. Keima didn't go back in time so he could end up with Chihiro, and Elsie didn't turn into his actual human sister because it'd let him be with her. The ship was already set and ready to set off before any of that nonsense. That stuff was just a matter of the author trying to come up with a good continuation and conclusion and not doing the best of jobs. It didn't really have any effect on the relationship, all of that came down to what Keima chose to do once his job was over and he was free to follow a path he wanted. At most, the time jump just gave Chihiro a bit of time to cool down rather than have Keima confess to her the day after he rejected her and forced her to help him seduce her friend.

Keima was always kept on his toes.That was true for every single girl he met.
All his planning and effort was what made him the most unique harem protagonist.He was the first belivable harem lead that can plausibly win girls over in real life.Every girl also demonstrated belivable behavior as well.Every single girl was a test.Those arcs also have many themes,not just your petty "otaku vs real".Chihiro shippers see keima as subhuman because he likes dating sims.It never crosses their minds that keima and the girls have something in common.


Chihiro is not special.She was just a tsundere.Loving for no reason can be said for any generic harem manga.Chapter 189 was supposed to be the end.These was no forshadowing and buildup for her to win,she was to clearly lose when that song made it clear.There was pretty much nothing about them throught the whole HOJ Arc.

Yes Keima and Chihiro was the reason for all the bad elements,casue the manga abruptly ended with only that in mind.Else being human was because of the Real girl agenda.Satyr being shafted was because of chihiro.Anyone not a delusional chihiro shipper can see that.

Last edited by genesic123 at 5:41 am, Dec 20 2020