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I'm not an expert, but isn't that right too? .__. If you take "Horror anime and manga" as one subject, instead of interpreting it as "Horror anime" and "Horror manga" which would make it two. Depends on interpretation, I guess.

If he said; "Horror anime and horror manga is just stupid." Now that would be just wrong. But because the 'Horror' encompasses the 'anime' and 'manga', it can be viewed as one subject.

This is all just speculation though. 🤣

As for the topic on-hand. -.-;;

I even highlight the genre "Horror"; so yes I like the genre~ One of the few genres where I will overlook bad art.

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I am OK reading and watching horror animanga that "sucks". I like the way manga sucks in Jisatsu Circle (who cares for standalone complexes born by personal miseries leading to mass suicides)?! Or Battle Royale, Higurashi, Shiki, Ichi The Killer, Shamo - pics for idiots.
In fact, I also think horror is not for everybody.

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^ Why does it make you angry? Other people's preference to these genres, the genres themselves, you are thinking they are simply trendy, or you dislike digging in pervesities?

It's not the people that make me angry, it is the manga and media themselves. The storylines, characters and themes make me angry.

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Well like Crenshinibon said, the horror genre tends to give their characters access to a wider range of emotions making them more complex and 3-dimensional. Take the examples Itadakumasu gave. I often find the chars in those manga more realistic then dramas like REC.

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^That's not always the case. Example: School Days. Example: Saikano. The depth and breadth of the characters is so deep and wide that one cannot help but relate themselves to the themes and angst of the plot lines and characters.

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True, but what I'm really trying to get at is, you can't see a manga that's labeled horror and just immediately go: "OMGZ HOROR IZ TEH SUXXZ11!1!1!", "There's gonna be a lot of blood and guts.", or "ZOMGZ SAW RIPOF!!111!LOL111!!".

Oftentimes horror makes it easier to draw out complex psychological themes (Jisatsu Circle, Shiki) or make characters seem more human by putting them into situations everybody fears while still keeping the characters retain human emotions (Rabbit Doubt, Battle Royale).

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^I never said that was why I don't like it. I don't mind blood and guts, just not in that context. I don't like characters or situations/entities that have God complexes i.e. Gantz, Death Note, Battle Royale. And I don't see your argument that horrific media has an easier time drawing out human emotions. Often times, the characters are MORE static than in dramatic manga. The goal of horror media seems to be catharsis rather that tragic or dramatic fear.

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Well I kinda get where you're coming from, but those reasons are why a lot of people like them.

I think that horror explicitly shows the uglier side of humanity that some mangaka try to stay away from to make characters "likeable". Characters that become corrupted by power like Light from Death Note or characters that shut out the world and look down on humanity like Kei from Gantz, are intriguing b/c they people like actually exist in the real world.

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^That's not always the case. Example: School Days. Example: Saikano. The depth and breadth of the characters is so deep and wide that one cannot help but relate themselves to the themes and angst of the plot lines and characters.

Saikano is nothing compared to Bokurano and School Days is primitive emotional literation compared to Nijigahara Holograph.

Anyway, it is not that I am dying to convince you or something. People take as much as they can from animanga (like everything else). This was the initial question concerning the specific genres, was it not? If you pull a God like complex from Gantz, I would pull precisely the opposite and add the horrifying alienation, delegated responsibilty, opportunism that kills, in summary, demystification of the human nature and society. And I believe this is the goal of the genre as of now. (Naturally I exclude any plot with zombies and the Indiana Jones type running here and there with A girl to save the day among sea of blood or something like that). 🤣

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i guess it's because of the thrill and the suspense.

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^That's not always the case. Example: School Days. Example: Saikano. The depth and breadth of the characters is so deep and wide that one cannot help but relate themselves to the themes and angst of the plot lines and characters.

Saikano is nothing compared to Bokurano and School Days is primitive emotional literation compared to Nijigahara Holograph.

Anyway, it is not that I am dying to convince you or something. People take as much as they can from animanga (like everything else). This was the initial question concerning the specific genres, was it not? If you pull a God like complex from Gantz, I would pull precisely the opposite and add the horrifying alienation, delegated responsibilty, opportunism that kills, in summary, demystification of the human nature and society. And I believe this is the goal of the genre as of now. (Naturally I exclude any plot with zombies and the Indiana Jones type running here and there with A girl to save the day among sea of blood or something like that). 🤣

Maybe those two manga don't strike a chord with you, but to me, they highlight the angst and foibles of humanity. And how can you remove the God complex from Gantz? The players are forced to fight and kill, or they are killed by an almighty being.

I find war dramas not only more cathartic, but more classically tragic than horror. And Indiana Jones is not horror.

I don't believe I have criticized those who have stated that they enjoy the manga, or media, I just want to understand why they do. Frankly, everything that is gained emotionally from horror can be gained by other genres, so there must be another reason. Unless, as I have previously stated, it is for the sheer cathartic response of to the media as a whole.

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I don't like horror manga/anime. I like Horror books and films.

Horror manga and anime is just stupid.

So wait, you like horror books and movies, but not manga and anime, which, with manga, you get a storyline and pictures telling the story same as a book would, except that its only talking(with the pictures and all) and horror anime are just like movies, except animated(sp?)

Wow, that makes so much sense.

btw, i do belive you ment Are and not Is, since there are two subjects, in that sentence, and all that, idk, been a bit since classes for me

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oh well.

on topic, horror manga suck, but they are interesting to watch, since people tend to die.

What...?

Anyway....Anime and Manga is different from books and film, if you haven't notice.

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I'm going to indirectly answer the question by not answering the question.

Either way, explaining why I like what I like isn't a favorite pastime. When asked why I like coffee, I could list off the attributes I enjoy: flavourful, smooth, sweet, darkly delicious. Yet another could come along and null my comments by stating why they don't enjoy it: bitter, too strong, not sweet enough, detrimental to your health.

There's no understanding involved.

So, if I was to explain why I enjoy horror:
Intimidating, spine-tingling, psychologically stimulating, interesting, a step out of the box.
You could easily counter by stating it is none of these things, or I'd be able to find them in different genres.

But, in my eyes and experience, I can't.

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I'm going to indirectly answer the question by not answering the question.

Either way, explaining why I like what I like isn't a favorite pastime. When asked why I like coffee, I could list off the attributes I enjoy: flavourful, smooth, sweet, darkly delicious. Yet another could come along and null my comments by stating why they don't enjoy it: bitter, too strong, not sweet enough, detrimental to your health.

There's no understanding involved.

So, if I was to explain why I enjoy horror:
Intimidating, spine-tingling, psychologically stimulating, interesting, a step out of the box.
You could easily counter by stating it is none of these things, or I'd be able to find them in different genres.

But, in my eyes and experience, I can't.

The reasoning behind opinions is a twisted road

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That was the kind of answer I was looking for.

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I personally don't like most horror manga and writing in general. I'll have to say that it's not my thing and that I prefer to stay away from it; I usually get creeped out. But it's not the genre that gets to me, really. Just don't needto hear all of the depression and all of the blood and guts in many modern horror. Nineteenth century gothic horror is fine.

But a lot of horror titles are exciting and prickling if you have the stomach for it. The horror adds excitement and other psychological thrillers that you wouldn't get without it. But it's not what makes a story. Take Stephen King for example. His stories are not about the horror at all, yet they are all classified as horror stories.