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The Gorilla Killa™
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17 years ago
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Well, April 16th is the big day. For those of you that don't know about it yet, click here.

Personally, the thing I'm pissed about the most is that there will be no more individual channels for people to have, which really defeats the purpose of having it called "YouTube". They'll probably change it to "The Tube" or some shit like that. Business wise, Google is simply adapting to its' environment, but we all know that this is just another example of how big corporations are slowly but surely taking over every aspect of our lives.

So, what are your thoughts on this?


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17 years ago
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I don't like it, but it was bound to happen.
Youtube was popular. Was. I was an avid fan of youtube back in 06. But I guess now that youtube isn't as popular as it was at it's peak, they want to do like other competitors. That is, evil ads that take seconds out of your life. And a new sexy player with extra unnecessary effects. The reason I still liked youtube was because they didn't have ads, it's simple, and it felt more personal compared to all those other video sites.

Videos in all four sections will feature in-stream, interruptive ads -- just like Hulu.

There will be a new player interface. It looks a lot like Hulu's, marking on the timeline where ads will play and allowing users to "dim the lights."

Youtube once was one of those sites those competitors wanted to be like, now it's the opposite.
I guess Youtube isn't gonna be all like it's catchphrase "broadcast yourself", it'll now have "premium" content like music and shows. Bah, this news has it's pros and cons, but well, now youtube won't quite be like the good ol' youtube anymore. 😢


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17 years ago
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Seems like the whole point of youtube now is making money.
A guy talking about his day or posting a video about his cats is not profitable.

If I was a maker of videos, I would certainly stop. Ads in my videos is basically them profiting off my own work.

I anticipate a lot of people leaving because of this, to save the integrity of their videos, and them leaving means the community of youtube disappearing to leave just another commercial site for tv shows and music behind.


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17 years ago
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I guess Hulu really is an evil plot to take over the world...

Enjoy.


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Seems like the whole point of youtube now is making money.
A guy talking about his day or posting a video about his cats is not profitable.

If I was a maker of videos, I would certainly stop. Ads in my videos is basically them profiting off my own work.

I anticipate a lot of people leaving because of this, to save the integrity of their videos, and them leaving means the community of youtube disappearing to leave just another commercial site for tv shows and music behind.

It's a business. Of course they should profit off of the work people post when they're the ones paying incredible amounts of money for the bandwidth.

When a video blogger hosts his own videos and pays for their bandwidth, not relying on any other brand name to actually attract viewers - then he/she can expect to make a profit off their own work.


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17 years ago
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Wow, what a load of shit. S'all going downhill now...


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17 years ago
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hmm, hulu is good to watch tv shows, but that's it. If Google makes this makeover, it's the end of youtube.


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Quote from VyvyanWilde

Seems like the whole point of youtube now is making money.
A guy talking about his day or posting a video about his cats is not profitable.

If I was a maker of videos, I would certainly stop. Ads in my videos is basically them profiting off my own work.

I anticipate a lot of people leaving because of this, to save the integrity of their videos, and them leaving means the community of youtube disappearing to leave just another commercial site for tv shows and music behind.

It's a business. Of course they should profit off of the work people post when they're the ones paying incredible amounts of money for the bandwidth.

When a video blogger hosts his own videos and pays for their bandwidth, not relying on any other brand name to actually attract viewers - then he/she can expect to make a profit off their own work.

That's like saying a manga hosting site has the right to put an ad to their site in manga, because they are the ones hosting it.

Sure, they can do it. But if I were an artist I would not upload my manga on that site, because I have no idea how much money they are making, and what that money is being spent on.

I can't support something I know nothing about.
Youtube has a history of not being open to their users about what they are doing, and with this development they are taking yet another step away from the community and part of what made Youtube as popular as it is.


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Hate the change but it was pretty inevitable. Remember that the reason Youtube was sold to Google in the first place was that the original creators were losing millions even as the site attracted millions upon millions of people. I doubt adding little ads (does anyone ever click on those things?) changed that much.

Google got jealous seeing the profit margins of Hulu and the heads decided they need change.

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Seems like the whole point of youtube now is making money.
A guy talking about his day or posting a video about his cats is not profitable.

If I was a maker of videos, I would certainly stop. Ads in my videos is basically them profiting off my own work.

I anticipate a lot of people leaving because of this, to save the integrity of their videos, and them leaving means the community of youtube disappearing to leave just another commercial site for tv shows and music behind.

It's a business. Of course they should profit off of the work people post when they're the ones paying incredible amounts of money for the bandwidth.

When a video blogger hosts his own videos and pays for their bandwidth, not relying on any other brand name to actually attract viewers - then he/she can expect to make a profit off their own work.

That's like saying a manga hosting site has the right to put an ad to their site in manga, because they are the ones hosting it.

Sure, they can do it. But if I were an artist I would not upload my manga on that site, because I have no idea how much money they are making, and what that money is being spent on.

I can't support something I know nothing about.
Youtube has a history of not being open to their users about what they are doing, and with this development they are taking yet another step away from the community and part of what made Youtube as popular as it is.

No, it isn't. First off, scanlators don't actually own their work. This situation is closer to Crunchyroll reaching out to the anime companies to get premium content on their site, legally. It's just that instead of having to pay a monthly costs, users have to deal with interruptive ads.

Second, Youtube is on a completely different magnitude from any manga hosting site. It's fine to cover a few hundred dollars every month with small ads on the site itself but when a site literally costs a company millions every year, that becomes impossible.

Look it's simple, for a public company like Google, if they didn't make changes, they were gonna shut Youtube down. It might have been different if it was owned by a private company and funded by the pockets of some billionaire.


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No, it isn't. First off, scanlators don't actually own their work. This situation is closer to Crunchyroll reaching out to the anime companies to get premium content on their site, legally. It's just that instead of having to pay a monthly costs, users have to deal with interruptive ads.

Second, Youtube is on a completely different magnitude from any manga hosting site. It's fine to cover a few hundred dollars every month with small ads on the site itself but when a site literally costs a company millions every year, that becomes impossible.

Look it's simple, for a public company like Google, if they didn't make changes, they were gonna shut Youtube down. It might have been different if it was owned by a private company and funded by the pockets of some billionaire.

You misunderstood me; if you look at my post, I said artist, not scanlator.
I was just trying to make a comparison that had to do with manga since we're on this site- I could have said something like "It's like inserting ads for a theater in a movie you produced, because it's being shown in that theatre."

Things like that are common practice, and I know companies must do that to be profitable. But just because they do it a lot and they want or need to make money doesn't make it right.

When Youtube does implement this, users will have a choice whether they want random ads they have no control over in their personal videos. For me, I would feel like the integrity of my work was lessened for letting this go on and not knowing what goes on behind the scenes. But it is up to each user what they will do, clearly others are okay with this.

I understand, profit has to be made off creativity if it can exist on a place like Youtube, and it's become that creativity there is no longer profitable. It's sad to see when, for the sake of profit, the very nature of a place is changed.


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17 years ago
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You're right, I did misunderstand you, my bad.


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Well, this sucks.


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17 years ago
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A long as they don't country restrict like Hulu I'm fine.


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17 years ago
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Ugh, yeah, I dislike Hulu. Way to go making Americans look more cocky/elitist than they already are. 😛

YouTube already began to detoriate since 2008. I used to love it, before it went really mainstream. All of the sudden, only bad videos are being uploaded, and the quality of said videos weren't exactly great...

I've noticed that they put a "HD" option though, but that's only for some videos fit to be "commercialized".


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17 years ago
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I was never very serious about using youtube for anything by light entertainment, so I don't have much of an opinion.

But I was royally put out when Veoh, initially an amazing video site, went all commercial >:-(


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