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Whats wrong with the world today...?

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Democrazy: because when 89% of the world population are innocent easy to manipulate sheeps, then there is no fucking point in the voting system.

Profit: Yeah, we could have free social security, free medicine, free energy, but where is the profit with that? I mean why waste a couple of trillion of dollars improving the efficiency of a service (IE solar power plants) and make the thing almost costless? is not like investing in the future is a good idea, after all we live in the present, and only short term solutions work for us.

T-shits with Go green crap: Yeah, because you are helping the environment a LOT by using CHEAP t-shirts, in the end is more garbage >_<

I could go on and on, but I don't have the time


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My alcoholic father and the other alcoholic people.


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Over population


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Democrazy

I Lol'd


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Democrazy

I Lol'd

It must be bad when it has worked
for more than 2000 years and actually
even given us the ability to whine!


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Democrazy

I Lol'd

It must be bad when it has worked
for more than 2000 years and actually
even given us the ability to whine!

It can work. But the issue is that like any other political system that man has made, there are many ways to abuse it.

When the ancient Greeks used it, the elite actually used their funds for public works and for the greater good of the people. In our current system, the middle class and poor pay for most everything. Democracy, at least currently in the US, is nothing but a shadow of what it could be.


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Democrazy

I Lol'd

It must be bad when it has worked
for more than 2000 years and actually
even given us the ability to whine!

I was just laughing at the spelling.


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[quote]Democrazy

I Lol'd

It must be bad when it has worked
for more than 2000 years and actually
even given us the ability to whine!

It can work. But the issue is that like any other political system that man has made, there are many ways to abuse it.

When the ancient Greeks used it, the elite actually used their funds for public works and for the greater good of the people. In our current system, the middle class and poor pay for most everything. Democracy, at least currently in the US, is nothing but a shadow of what it could be.[/quote]

Ancient greeks criticized democracy as much as people do
nowadays so there is no need to say that even at one point of history it was better then in other. In every country there is a big part of society that never will like the democracy. Democracy has never been perfect and it never will be, because it's made by man and man is imperfect. Imperfect being can never achieve a perfect system. But it by no means makes democracy bad, humans don't need a perfect system. Democracy is suitable for us and that's more useful then perfection.
In the end have you ever noticed that people don't talk what could be done to make system better, how to erase the mistakes. They only whine about how bad it is.
Although from other side it's a very important reason why we need democracy. Just imagine what would happen to people like Chaoswind, if there was no democracy. They wouldn't have anything to whine about and they would start whining about people around them, so annoying us to the death, instead of whining together with friends about democracy. Democracy receives all their irritation instead of their fellow man.


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i think its funny that someone thinks the world have seen Democracy for 2000 years


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if democracy "sucks", so what is the goverment model that works for humans? 🤢

ps: Dont say comunism, that only works for ants 😛


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@chulian

anarchy


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nothing. Many things are right, many things are wrong, and everything is how it should be (cause and effect). The world may not be how we as an individual wanted it to be, but we as a living organism, and as a species has shaped the world to what it is today. If the world is destroyed because of us, it isn't wrong necessarily, it just means took a different path than we had intended.

This is an excellent response.


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Read my signature, its one of the only quotes in which I wholeheartedly agree with.

"Do no seek to have events happen as you want them to, but instead want them to happen as they do happen, and your life will go well" - Epictetus

However that doesn't stop me from complaining about a few things, its only human ^^


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if democracy "sucks", so what is the goverment model that works for humans? 🤢

ps: Dont say comunism, that only works for ants 😛

Democracy isn't great. I'd argue that it's about the best we have right now, but it's far from great. In fact, "sucks" may even be an adequate description. It just doesn't "really suck."

That said, plenty of other systems can actually function. From a purely theoretical standpoint, we haven't actually attempted communism as it was originally supposed to function, so technically the possibility for success is still there. Monarchy and even fascism both also have the potential for success given the correct conditions. Pretty much any idea can, theoretically speaking, function if orchestrated correctly. It just depends on where your priorities are and what reality will actually allow.

On the side of democracy, the democratic peace theory still technically holds correct, although I'm not a realist but rather one of those hard-nosed liberal types that believes the phenomenon is mostly due to economic (rather than security) priorities.

Anarchy has the capacity for success if you believe that humans are inherently good. If you assume that we're all self-interested instead (or even some sort of mix in which either both forces compete and occasionally manifest or a reality in which the innate tendencies manifests differently in different people), it's an obvious catastrophe.

I'm pretty sure that wasn't what this thread was about though.

On topic: Anything and everything in varying degrees.

Also, Dan Brown. And hardcover "classic" editions of Anne Rice books. Seriously, someone in Barnes and Nobles' publishing department needs to be render physically incapable of thought (though that probably wouldn't be a huge change if they made that decision to begin with.)


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I think it was Winstan Churchill that said this

"It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried."

So there that is pretty much why you should stop complaining about democracy ^^


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