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Lol, but I'm so lazy and selfish that I don't care....

sigh ...
i hope you're not just replying to troll me...
well at least the wiki leaks and other leaks (about the Peace process) seem like have contributed to awakening the sleeping mass in the arab world, now the result are the overthrow of 2 authoritarian regimes , now 20 dominoes to go ... 🤣

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Lol, but I'm so lazy and selfish that I don't care

Nope, it isn't just a troll.

Just that a lot of the world is like this way, including me.
Ignorance and apathy are so much easier than actually caring.

May be we're 'bastards' or 'kids' that don't contribute to society but hey, that's how it's gonna remain until someone convinces us to change.

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Lol, but I'm so lazy and selfish that I don't care

Nope, it isn't just a troll.

Just that a lot of the world is like this way, including me.
Ignorance and apathy are so much easier than actually caring.

May be we're 'bastards' or 'kids' that don't contribute to society but hey, that's how it's gonna remain until someone convinces us to change.

And by then it would be too late because everyone's dead.

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Lol, but I'm so lazy and selfish that I don't care....

sigh ...
i hope you're not just replying to troll me...
well at least the wiki leaks and other leaks (about the Peace process) seem like have contributed to awakening the sleeping mass in the arab world, now the result are the overthrow of 2 authoritarian regimes , now 20 dominoes to go ... 🤣

I can see paranoia got you my friend.....
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But no, it's the what I feel. Too lazy to do anything. I know the truth and I see no way to get out without instability....and I wouldn't choose that...ever...

It's not that I'm apathetic, it's more like despair.....I see the problem, I know the problem, I see no good solution that doesn't involve violence, death.....and instability. So I choose to wait and see. Hopefully something new comes along, like another Ghandhi....and that's when we human rights activists should come to life again....in a non-violence peaceful way.

That's the problem with young activists today...too hot blooded, too prone to violent solutions.....too "End justify the Mean"....too , ironically, inhumane in the process....

Be more practical and pragmatic.

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this is not about cannibalism...please get back on topic

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I think it is exactly the topic. I see nothing wrong.

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Lol, but I'm so lazy and selfish that I don't care....

sigh ...
i hope you're not just replying to troll me...
well at least the wiki leaks and other leaks (about the Peace process) seem like have contributed to awakening the sleeping mass in the arab world, now the result are the overthrow of 2 authoritarian regimes , now 20 dominoes to go ... 🤣

I can see paranoia got you my friend.....
😔

But no, it's the what I feel. Too lazy to do anything. I know the truth and I see no way to get out without instability....and I wouldn't choose that...ever...

It's not that I'm apathetic, it's more like despair.....I see the problem, I know the problem, I see no good solution that doesn't involve violence, death.....and instability. So I choose to wait and see. Hopefully something new comes along, like another Ghandhi....and that's when we human rights activists should come to life again....in a non-violence peaceful way.

That's the problem with young activists today...too hot blooded, too prone to violent solutions.....too "End justify the Mean"....too , ironically, inhumane in the process....

Be more practical and pragmatic.

That's certainly an interesting viewpoint.

For me, I've never felt the need to feel empathy for someone I've never met.

Otherwise, I'd feel compelled to commit suicide due to hundreds of people dying while I'm typing this.

I'd be in permanent mental breakdown.

So yeah, I'm just the 'bastard' that I said I am in my original post, I simply cannot bring myself to care, and therefore change the world to make it a better place for everybody.

I just want it to be a better place for me.

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[quote=BoxBox]Lol, but I'm so lazy and selfish that I don't care....

sigh ...
i hope you're not just replying to troll me...
well at least the wiki leaks and other leaks (about the Peace process) seem like have contributed to awakening the sleeping mass in the arab world, now the result are the overthrow of 2 authoritarian regimes , now 20 dominoes to go ... 🤣

I can see paranoia got you my friend.....
😔

But no, it's the what I feel. Too lazy to do anything. I know the truth and I see no way to get out without instability....and I wouldn't choose that...ever...

It's not that I'm apathetic, it's more like despair.....I see the problem, I know the problem, I see no good solution that doesn't involve violence, death.....and instability. So I choose to wait and see. Hopefully something new comes along, like another Ghandhi....and that's when we human rights activists should come to life again....in a non-violence peaceful way.

That's the problem with young activists today...too hot blooded, too prone to violent solutions.....too "End justify the Mean"....too , ironically, inhumane in the process....

Be more practical and pragmatic.

That's certainly an interesting viewpoint.

For me, I've never felt the need to feel empathy for someone I've never met.

Otherwise, I'd feel compelled to commit suicide due to hundreds of people dying while I'm typing this.

I'd be in permanent mental breakdown.

So yeah, I'm just the 'bastard' that I said I am in my original post, I simply cannot bring myself to care, and therefore change the world to make it a better place for everybody.

I just want it to be a better place for me.[/quote]

ahaha, live a little, see life, experience people, talk to them, everyone was a child once, even lawyers. The cynical attitude will probably smooth out with age and experience.

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this is not about cannibalism...please get back on topic

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I think it is exactly the topic. I see nothing wrong.

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ahaha, live a little, see life, experience people, talk to them, everyone was a child once, even lawyers. The cynical attitude will probably smooth out with age and experience.

You sound exactly like a friend of mine.

Maybe he really does know what he's talking about. ^^

For now, I'll accept that I don't think about this subject very often, and therefore it'll be shunted to the 'not thought of very often' part of my brain and I'll forget about it until the topic is brought up again.

So, yeah, I'll just wait until I've matured a little and seen all the goodness and butterflies in the world.

To everyone talking about assassins: lol seriously? Take a second, step out of your manga, and back into reality. Let's just go to common sense to knock this one out. Julian Assange is in the international limelight at the moment over supposed conspiracies. Think the US government has a problem now? Imagine if Assange just dropped dead--it would get 100 times worse.

To everyone talking about conspiracies and mercenary companies: lol again... step out of your manga and back into reality. Common sense and some educational reading can help push this into the "highly unlikely" territory. Pro tip: if you're doing your reading on a website outlining other conspiracy theories, you may not be on a bias-free site.

On why people are calling him a "tool" and "attention whore": Julian Assange has propelled himself to the forefront of media attention, even when the smart thing to do would have been to stay behind the Wikileaks name and remain in the shadows. He continues to do media interviews when the traditional mode of thought is to "lay low". He was given multiple opportunities to dispute the rape/sex charges (they reached out to him over 10 times if I remember correctly), even over the phone supposedly--but he chose instead to build it up into another conspiracy theory surrounding himself saying he "feared for his life". Let's go back to point 1 to see why this is ridiculous and why it just serves as more evidence of his attention-whoring.

On the rape/sex charges and why it most likely isn't a conspiracy: let's go to common sense again to break this down--with so much attention surrounding him and his activities, could the government really get away with setting him up not only once, but twice? Let's use Occam's razor here: Julian Assange dug up dirt on the US government--does it not make sense the US government would do the same to him and pull up any and all dirt in his background?

Finally, has he actually revealed any illegal activity by the US government? On civilian deaths, there was no cover up--there were reports and in cases where there was intentional killing of civilians, people went to jail. Does this mean the government is going to go around shouting to the media about these cases? Hell no. Again, common sense here--life is not manga or a Jason Bourne movie.

Assange says he's doing this for justice and transparency, but he's actually done little more than release the equivalent of government gossip--it doesn't actually reveal anything important, and yet it's still enough to hurt the foreign relations of world governments. Rather than serving "justice", it more closely matches goals expressed in his manifesto, where he pretty much comes out as an anarchist who desires to make it impossible for governments to function. This is why people are calling him a "douche": he's going after his own goals while calling it "justice", engaging in actions that can ultimately end up having negative effects for the people he's supposedly helping.

Herp a derp, people.

Nomstar

It's strange how you are all "against bias sites" and yet belive what the US government said it did, are you telling me they are bias free?

About the "attention whoring", well any intelligent person would do this. If he starts giving less and less interviews when people want to interview him he would be forgotten faster, a person no one searches for is a person you can deal with easily.

Finally, has he actually revealed any illegal activity by the US government? On civilian deaths, there was no cover up

If there was no cover up, how come he revealed anything?

there were reports and in cases where there was intentional killing of civilians, people went to jail

I can't see how the wars in the Middle East aren't intentional killing of civilians, or are you gonna say me all "terrorists"(Aka: People who lost their land and family to a completely sincere and good-willing government) are trained warriors that left their homes to fight in the war, they don't even have a home.(US took it)

Does this mean the government is going to go around shouting to the media about these cases? Hell no. Again, common sense here--life is not manga or a Jason Bourne movie.

To start with, if there was no harm in what he revealed there would be no problem with international relations. And you are basically saying that as long as no one knows that I do and think shit there is no problem

This is why people are calling him a "douche": he's going after his own goals while calling it "justice", engaging in actions that can ultimately end up having negative effects for the people he's supposedly helping.

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Hekat

Exactly
Tomorrow I'm going to the republicans to warn them that I will be the next candidate, how come I never tought about that?...Royal Or Sarkozy? They are both shit, ask a french if he WANTED to vote in Sarkozy. Voting is not about choosing the best, its about chosing the less worse.
Serra or Roussef? Both Shit
Merkel or Steinmeier? Both Shit
Obama or McCain? Both Shit

And where exactly did I say I believed what the US government said? I read a number of different media sources, both foreign and domestic, on a daily basis. This is generally how I get my initial information and how I start to form an initial opinion...

He's "attention whoring", because an intelligent person, one who believes in conspiracies like Assange does and thinks the government will want to kill him, wouldn't have gotten in the limelight in the first place; an intelligent rational person would have remained behind the organization for protection. That should tell you something about Assange...

Sorry, but covering something up and private communications between government officials are two different things. Way to miss the point though... Has he actually revealed any illegal (this is the key word...) activity?

No, the wars are not intentionally killing civilians. I don't think I should even have to explain this lol...

I don't think you understand how diplomacy, or even basic politics within any organization, really works. Let me put it like this: if someone in Washington needs to make a decision that is dependent on a foreign dignitary halfway around the world who he has never met, should our diplomat send back a politically-correct "oh he's a good guy" reply, or a candid "this guy is rumored to be corrupt, he owns several private businesses that have boomed with his government's sponsorship, and he travels everywhere with a voluptuous blonde nurse"? Surely you can see why this type of communication is crucial, yet still needs to remain private...

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And where exactly did I say I believed what the US government said? I read a number of different media sources, both foreign and domestic, on a daily basis. This is generally how I get my initial information and how I start to form an initial opinion...

He's "attention whoring", because an intelligent person, one who believes in conspiracies like Assange does and thinks the government will want to kill him, wouldn't have gotten in the limelight in the first place; an intelligent rational person would have remained behind the organization for protection. That should tell you something about Assange...

Sorry, but covering something up and private communications between government officials are two different things. Way to miss the point though... Has he actually revealed any illegal (this is the key word...) activity?

No, the wars are not intentionally killing civilians. I don't think I should even have to explain this lol...

I don't think you understand how diplomacy, or even basic politics within any organization, really works. Let me put it like this: if someone in Washington needs to make a decision that is dependent on a foreign dignitary halfway around the world who he has never met, should our diplomat send back a politically-correct "oh he's a good guy" reply, or a candid "this guy is rumored to be corrupt, he owns several private businesses that have boomed with his government's sponsorship, and he travels everywhere with a voluptuous blonde nurse"? Surely you can see why this type of communication is crucial, yet still needs to remain private...

I don't see any opinion in you but what is written in the news, sorry.

If he never did get in the limelight he surely wouldn't be as known as he is now. I don't think I should have to explain this

Trying to control an country external relations and economy by blackmailing their higher ups is illegal.

Wars kill civilians. This war is intentional. They are killing civilians intentionally. It's the same as droping an atomic bomb at the white house. "Whoops, I ddn't mean to kill all of Washington"
But really, I don't think I should have to explain this.

I never said this was the problem, If you can point out where in my text I said talking bad about other governors is the problem please, do it.(Not that I should have to point this out)

Looking at your awesome text interpretation, I think even with non-biased information you would not be able to form anything different from the general opinion, you would just understand whatever you wanted anyway.

Edit: Ah, this also marks my last post in this topic, I have only read two posts, but I already noticed that discussing with you is pointless

It is after all the information age. Information trade.

I don't mind what assange is doing... if you are doing something that you want to keep secret that badly, you probably should be doing it. Not to mention the internet is the sea of information, and no one should be detained without trial for over a year for making use of it. its not like he exposed nuclear missle silos, or the location of the presidential bunker. All he did was expose one of the 30,000 things every government makes behind its citizens backs. Our constitution tells us(specific to united states here) to overthrow the government if it ever becomes corrupt, and controlling(I find this to be great advice). I somehow doubt the constitution is against a much lesser crime made in an attempt to reverse that process.

I realize this only refutes any american people saying that what he has done is wrong. Unfortunately I don't have enough info to make any points in the viewpoints of other nations laws(I only pay attention to the ones that I may need to circumvent in the future)

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Comedy:
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