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I haven't. It seems to me that there are so many 'hot' women out there who are vapid and shallow and stupid, as opposed to women who are actually intelligent and caring.

Of course, I don't find said 'hot' women attractive, so I guess it is kind of true. My tastes are different than the majority of the population though.

wow i can't believe guys like you still exist D:
all the guys i know don't care about the inner beauty crap,as long as the face looks good all is fine
even worse some of them dont even care about the face,if they like the body they'll date the girl :l

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[quote=Casey D. Geek]There is also a theory that your inner personality influences your outward appearance. Barring a few exceptions, I have always found this to be fairly accurate.

I haven't. It seems to me that there are so many 'hot' women out there who are vapid and shallow and stupid, as opposed to women who are actually intelligent and caring.

Of course, I don't find said 'hot' women attractive, so I guess it is kind of true. My tastes are different than the majority of the population though.

Not talking about hot women. When I look at someone, I can usually get a 'vibe' so to say. And usually, I'm pretty accurate. Kind people seem kind, and unkind people seem unkind.
Look again at those 'hot' women, and take a hard look. You'll notice some 'quirks' that break through. And I agree with you on your view of attractivenes. I find pretty women more attractive than the 'hot' ones.

Although cosmetics and other things like that so present a problem.

And how exactly can you tell you are pretty accurate or not? Do you ask them if they are like that? Do you become friends with them to check? Or do you just assume you are?[/quote]

Honestly, if I had a nickel for every time.....

I check. I say this only about those instances in which I have verified my initial assumptions afte months of observations. And even then, I keep salt handy. Everybody makes assumptions about aeverybody else based on the first impression. I trust mine a tad more than you apparently do.
Now, if you can contribute anything to the topic, please do. Otherwise, if you want to continue this, open up a new topic. I won't reply to another question on this point in this thread.

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[quote=Turbophoenix][quote=Casey D. Geek]There is also a theory that your inner personality influences your outward appearance. Barring a few exceptions, I have always found this to be fairly accurate.

I haven't. It seems to me that there are so many 'hot' women out there who are vapid and shallow and stupid, as opposed to women who are actually intelligent and caring.

Of course, I don't find said 'hot' women attractive, so I guess it is kind of true. My tastes are different than the majority of the population though.

Not talking about hot women. When I look at someone, I can usually get a 'vibe' so to say. And usually, I'm pretty accurate. Kind people seem kind, and unkind people seem unkind.
Look again at those 'hot' women, and take a hard look. You'll notice some 'quirks' that break through. And I agree with you on your view of attractivenes. I find pretty women more attractive than the 'hot' ones.

Although cosmetics and other things like that so present a problem.

And how exactly can you tell you are pretty accurate or not? Do you ask them if they are like that? Do you become friends with them to check? Or do you just assume you are?[/quote]

Honestly, if I had a nickel for every time.....

I check. I say this only about those instances in which I have verified my initial assumptions afte months of observations. And even then, I keep salt handy. Everybody makes assumptions about aeverybody else based on the first impression. I trust mine a tad more than you apparently do.
Now, if you can contribute anything to the topic, please do. Otherwise, if you want to continue this, open up a new topic. I won't reply to another question on this point in this thread.

@sarah-eats-cupcakes : Don't pay any attention to those guys. They aren't worth jackshit.[/quote]

I was just asking, no need to go all defensive. I make assumptions, I just don't usually do a follow up because I'm not like that. It's good to know you trust your assumptions.

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I haven't. It seems to me that there are so many 'hot' women out there who are vapid and shallow and stupid, as opposed to women who are actually intelligent and caring.

Don't you think you're shallow yourself when you consider that just because a woman is "hot", is also vapid and shallow and stupid?
I mean how many women have you met? And what are you to do when you live in a country as mine where 70-80% of the women are at least pretty, are we all as you said?

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I haven't. It seems to me that there are so many 'hot' women out there who are vapid and shallow and stupid, as opposed to women who are actually intelligent and caring.

Of course, I don't find said 'hot' women attractive, so I guess it is kind of true. My tastes are different than the majority of the population though.

wow i can't believe guys like you still exist D:
all the guys i know don't care about the inner beauty crap,as long as the face looks good all is fine
even worse some of them dont even care about the face,if they like the body they'll date the girl :l

There's an endless amount of guys in the world. I'm sure there are many around you who think like Turbophoenix

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I completely agree with people who say that inner beauty is more important than outer beauty.

That should go without saying.

With the advent of technology, it will be increasingly painless, safe, and cheap to get cosmetic surgery. It will only get better.

Beauty on the inside is much more difficult for surgery to improve. Even with today's advanced technology, it's extremely difficult to artificially increase muscle mass and efficiency and improve/alter bone structure... and we can forget about artificially increasing brain power.

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**Well that's pretty much what I meant in my previous post. **

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No way. I don't believe it.

I think that you must have stopped reading after the first sentence of my post.

I didn't mention personality, confidence, or anything else you associated with "inner beauty".

I was using my own troll-blooded interpretation of inner beauty. Most people would reasonably assume I was being facetious. I have never heard of anyone else associate muscle and bone to be "inner beauty" in place of "personality", intelligence, and all that other feel good stuff.

Kudos to you if you're just trolling me though. 🤣

As for surgeries I think there's still a long way to go untill everyone will afford such expensive luxury plus is still very riscky.

In all seriousness, I was being half-serious. Surgery IS becoming safer, cheaper, and more effective every year. As for it being an expensive luxury, well, most people with talent and strong work ethic can afford middle-class luxuries like cosmetic surgery. It doesn't cost more than an average American family sedan.

It's a factor that I think should increasingly factor into peoples' assessment of the value of physical beauty over non-physical advantages.

If I were to assign monetary values to different personal qualities, I'd have to rank physical beauty fairly lowly...

Eg. a healthy lifestyle (good nutrition and exercise) vs some physical beauty.
Lack of physical beauty (face) can be corrected by cosmetics and surgery. One time fixes. (Exception made for height, which is difficult to fix regardless of how much money we have.)
An unhealthy lifestyle can lead to... obesity, heart problems, etc... which cost significantly more to fix, and aren't one-time deals. Liposuction is a temporary fix, but don't guarantee a change in unhealthy eating habits.

Granted, there are cases where people can be addicted to cosmetic surgery, but in those cases, there are problems aside from physical beauty. The problems include lack of confidence and possibly some more severe mental/social deficiencies.

When I think about it logically, not lustfully and irrationally, intelligence/mental alacrity provides the greatest obvious value. It actually generates greater revenue over time than physical beauty, which loses value. It's a materialistic way to think of it though, and it's much more difficult to gauge the value of other qualities, like loyalty (the value of "risk" is tougher to assess).

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I haven't. It seems to me that there are so many 'hot' women out there who are vapid and shallow and stupid, as opposed to women who are actually intelligent and caring.

Don't you think you're shallow yourself when you consider that just because a woman is "hot", is also vapid and shallow and stupid?
I mean how many women have you met? And what are you to do when you live in a country as mine where 70-80% of the women are at least pretty, are we all as you said?

I said it seems to me. I'm going on personal experience here. Most of the women in my area are either bimbos or have had a kid before they've hit 20. I try not to automatically judge people based on their looks, but 90% of the time my assumption is correct. But of course there are exceptions - two of my closest female friends look like blonde airheads but are actually quite smart. It's just that I've been single for a while and I've met so many clones of the same person: Bleached hair, tons of make-up, super thin, goes out clubbing every night, loves to tan on the beach, shop and gossip during the day. This is what I meant by 'hot', because unfortunately it seems that this is the kind of woman most guys these days seem to go for.

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Bleached hair, tons of make-up, super thin, goes out clubbing every night, loves to tan on the beach, shop and gossip during the day. This is what I meant by 'hot', because unfortunately it seems that this is the kind of woman most guys these days seem to go for.

I have a somewhat srange question: How do these people earn? 😕

Again, you make the mistake of generalisation. Most guys in your area, maybe, but not in everyplace.

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Bleached hair, tons of make-up, super thin, goes out clubbing every night, loves to tan on the beach, shop and gossip during the day. This is what I meant by 'hot', because unfortunately it seems that this is the kind of woman most guys these days seem to go for.

I have a somewhat srange question: How do these people earn? 😕

Again, you make the mistake of generalisation. Most guys in your area, maybe, but not in everyplace.

1. There are plenty of jobs for those kinds of chicks.
2. He specifically said he is going on personal experience. I see those types of girls everywhere though.

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Bleached hair, tons of make-up, super thin, goes out clubbing every night, loves to tan on the beach, shop and gossip during the day. This is what I meant by 'hot', because unfortunately it seems that this is the kind of woman most guys these days seem to go for.

I have a somewhat srange question: How do these people earn? 😕

Again, you make the mistake of generalisation. Most guys in your area, maybe, but not in everyplace.

1. There are plenty of jobs for those kinds of chicks.
2. He specifically said he is going on personal experience. I see those types of girls everywhere though.

Some examples?

I refered to the guys part of his statement.

There are times when you will miss what you never had. I wonder how you will find what you so desperately need.

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Again, you make the mistake of generalisation. Most guys in your area, maybe, but not in everyplace.

He specifically said he is going on personal experience.

This. I'm obviously not saying that is what guys everywhere like, because the world is a big damn place and there is no way that the majority of the population are attracted to the same type of person. But most guys in my area are attracted to this type of woman. I thought this was pretty obvious...

As for how they make money, well most of the time they're just checkout operators or hairdressers or something, sometimes they don't even have jobs and just live off their parents money (I live in a pretty rich area) or their boyfriend.

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why do guys feel the need to be strong ?

Being strong >> Being weak.

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human nature , people show alot of vanity in them.
they want to use every attempt to make their outer appearance look good.
then they resort to make-up, products, and ornaments.
then if all else fails, they resort to cosmetic surgeries, breast implants, and so on.
99% of people are actually somewhat ugly, but guised in superficial means to redefine their looks.
the media misdefines what beauty really is. we all can't love ourselves and others for who they are and what they actually are.