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More like, a set of rules made by people that ensures the well being of the many.

If you mean by laws: In some cases set by some people for the well being of themselves.....

I wouldn't know. I live in the U.S. where that's how the laws are.

Interesting, so do I.

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[quote=ares6]More like, a set of rules made by people that ensures the well being of the many.

If you mean by laws: In some cases set by some people for the well being of themselves.....

I wouldn't know. I live in the U.S. where that's how the laws are.

Interesting, so do I.[/quote]

But I do not and sometimes your law looks lame to me.

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[quote=Nelo_Neko][quote=ares6]More like, a set of rules made by people that ensures the well being of the many.

If you mean by laws: In some cases set by some people for the well being of themselves.....

I wouldn't know. I live in the U.S. where that's how the laws are.

Interesting, so do I.[/quote]

But I do not and sometimes your law looks lame to me.[/quote]

.......ok....you don't like Americans do you.....
I am perfectly satisfied with the American Justice System.

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[quote=ares6][quote=Nelo_Neko][quote=ares6]More like, a set of rules made by people that ensures the well being of the many.

If you mean by laws: In some cases set by some people for the well being of themselves.....

I wouldn't know. I live in the U.S. where that's how the laws are.

Interesting, so do I.[/quote]

But I do not and sometimes your law looks lame to me.[/quote]

.......ok....you don't like Americans do you.....
I am perfectly satisfied with the American Justice System.[/quote]

Never did I say Americans.
But you most likely live in North-America.

You'll be amazed how a officer with a crappy mood can twist those laws around on you.

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Depends on who are involved.

Does justice mean equality? That humanitarian concept of all getting equally treated? So distant in reality. Lets not go far with examples if justice means equality. How do you stand at home? Are all treated equally? I mean flat equal like even if your a girl, you still have to mix quick dry cement to apply on the wall that your family is raising?

Can you consider Nature's Cycle as Justice? Food chain since every predator is another prey for another bigger predator?

Justice can only exist when everyone prescribes to its existence along with the constituents of that said justice..

"Everybody gets what they deserve.." -me

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You'll be amazed how a officer with a crappy mood can twist those laws around on you.

Officer gave my friend a ticket for standing on the park chair.
Here's what I think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1AXrIDPUG0

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There is no justice, no fairness, no karma,

Bad people go unpunished, get what they want if they have the strength to take it and live far longer than they deserve, good people go unrewarded and die hollow, meaningless deaths. Thousands of people, too desperate even to have a concept of good or evil, die in the world every day. Children die before they even get a chance to choose their path in life, while rich people who have more money than entire countries continue to look for ways to screw more out of whatever and whoever they can exploit.

For example, America is the most powerful nation in the world; it has the wealth and power to solve at least half the world's poverty on its own if its leaders and people had the inclination. But does it? No, all it does is look for new ways to serve its own interests, which are always the interests of the few rich bastards who control the politicians and screw the rest. How can that be just? Justice is just a concept we invented to justify our evil; it's OK if a rich crook who rips off millions of hard working innocents continues to do so since he was found not guilty in court; it's OK to turn a blind eye to evil and leave the innocent to suffer because it'll all even out in the afterlife.

Of COURSE there are exceptions. Good people do well for themselves. Bad people are punished. But it's just a drop in the bucket. I hope we've wiped ourselves out before the aliens find us- if they're a moral species they'd be horrified by us and might purge us from the galaxy for our sins. And I'd damn well say we have it coming too. That might be the only justice we ever see...

Sorry.

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Who's telling who is good and who is bad and where is the line between them?

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Who's telling who is good and who is bad and where is the line between them?

God is....... 😃

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How does god know the answers?
In some cultures something is wrong and in other culture it is not wrong.
So by other means what culture does god belong to?

I think the Justice system in the US, in an ideal state, is good and sound, however, as with everything, humans corrupt things.
Sorry, I've not been feeling a great love for humanity for a long while now.

And I get to taste the justice system today ... I have been called for Jury duty in a few hours. I haven't the slightest clue what I will be doing, where, or how. The mailings don't tell me anything, and its kind of scary 🙁 Not big on crowds and such.

Right..

Conquestor and Arcane Azmadi here got the thing right (in my opinion) that there isn't justice for everyone in this world. Every single book of law has always been written by humans, and the laws are based on their idea of perfect world, not everyone's. That means the strongest, nowadays in the rich western-countries the ones with most money are the most influental ones, and get to rule if not as the president or prime-minister then as a power "behind the throne". And they get to rule their countries, and depending on the military-power of the country and the strength of the politicians, almost the whole world, at least those with smaller military-budgets.

ares6, is this for the well-being of the many? No. There hardly is as many US-citizens, or us the Europeans as there are arabs, africans and asians, who're being discriminated by us. That is exactly like Nelo_neko answered, the laws are made to ensure the happines of their writers, and of some or many people who they protect, or guard, I might even say.

For christians of the western-countries it is easy to think that the reason why we have such a high morale, for example compared to China, for example, where the people really do treat each other even worse than here, is because of the Bible and the Church. That is not how it is though, for example many of the western-countries have based their constitution on the thoughts of philosophers such as Jean-Jacques Rousseau and Voltaire, even such country as USA has its constitution based on the thoughts of man, actually on both listed above, instead of their holy constitution being descended from the heaven (this is just me being a dick, im not saying anyone stated this in this thread or anywhere else). Understand that I'm not saying the philosophers of the age of enlightment represent the true justice, or the highest morale for me.

And even if man was ever going to "find" true justice for all, it'd still be just letters on a page, not everyone would follow them.

Not bragging, but had I used more time for this, the result might've been better, just saying so I'd feel better 😐

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justice...hmmm..
justice exists, but not all the time.