Why is Yuri so different then Yaoi?

16 years ago
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I'm sorry ,not sure if this the right place to post this since I see alot of thread in here talking about where to find this kind of manga.
This the only place that talks about Yaoi/Yuri.
I just watched/read some yuri earlier, for some reason I find Yuri is very different then Yaoi. In Yuri their all was seem to be young girls dating same age girls, but in yaoi its seem their to be stuff I don't like all was there i.e. sex, adult x adult, pedophile, trap, and, shotecon, and seme/uke. What happen to young boy dating other young boys ( shota and teenage)?
I know that their Yuri out there that same to Yaoi. But to me I know alot goods to me isn't the same as yaoi.
I only know some BL that I like that kind of feel like Yuri.
I start to find Yuri is more pure then yaoi.
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16 years ago
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There ARE a lot of yaoi with younger boys dating boys of similar age. But the number of yaoi is huge so there is this diversity? 🙄
A lot of yaoi exist for the smut IMO. Most (not all but most) yuri is aimed at male moe fans, I think, therefore you get the young girls and pure thing. If they want to read the sex part, hentai will satisfy them. A lot of hentai has female on female sex even if they are not labeled yuri. 🙄 Yaoi on the other hand, are not separated like that.

16 years ago
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There ARE a lot of yaoi with younger boys dating boys of similar age. But the number of yaoi is huge so there is this diversity? 🙄
A lot of yaoi exist for the smut IMO. Most (not all but most) yuri is aimed at male moe fans, I think, therefore you get the young girls and pure thing. If they want to read the sex part, hentai will satisfy them. A lot of hentai has female on female sex even if they are not labeled yuri. 🙄 Yaoi on the other hand, are not separated like that.
Not really alot look like they are older looking and very manly looking ->Gakuen Heaven - Closer to You
The one i'm talking about is Kagi, Bokutachi Otokonoko, and Shinkuu Yuusetsu less manly looking more younger.
True but the yuri I read that doesn't have moe and taget for male,
The only pure one I know are taget for shoujo/josei.
The only reason I call it Yuri because it mean Lily. So i'm not reading any yuri-sex at all. And for Yaoi I call it BL with out sex.
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but in yaoi its seem their to be stuff I don't like all was there i.e. sex, adult x adult, pedophile, trap, and, shotecon, and seme/uke.
Well ya...those things distinguish Yaoi from Shounen-ai. The sex is kinda always there...o-o Seme/uke...those are the roles? I may be off...but don't like 90% of Yaoi have these defined roles? .__.
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What happen to younger boy dating other younger boys?
That would be shota. .__. The youngest age you would most likely find in Yaoi is maybe 14, lower than that...that would be shota, yes? Unless it's one of those stories where the characters are childhood friends.
Younger boy x Younger boy is usually found in Shounen-ai. I think this is what you are looking for. The three titles you mentioned above are all Shounen-ai. There is a clear difference between Yaoi and Shounen-ai. Yaoi = sex, Shounen-ai = little, to no sex.
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I only know some BL that I like that kind of feel like Yuri.
I start to find Yuri is more pure then yaoi.
I'm guessing those Yuris are really Shoujo-ais...o-o;;
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16 years ago
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but in yaoi its seem their to be stuff I don't like all was there i.e. sex, adult x adult, pedophile, trap, and, shotecon, and seme/uke.
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Well ya...those things distinguish Yaoi from Shounen-ai. The sex is kinda always there...o-o Seme/uke...those are the roles? I may be off...but don't like 90% of Yaoi have these defined roles? .__.
Me either.
I guess its their roles. But I don't labeling seme and uke.
Seme and Uke is only when they are in bed. I only like BL/Shounen ai for the story and not sex.
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What happen to younger boy dating other younger boys?
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That would be shota. .__. The youngest age you would most likely find in Yaoi is maybe 14, lower than that...that would be shota, yes? Unless it's one of those stories where the characters are childhood friends.
Younger boy x Younger boy is usually found in Shounen-ai. I think this is what you are looking for. The three titles you mentioned above are all Shounen-ai. There is a clear difference between Yaoi and Shounen-ai. Yaoi = sex, Shounen-ai = little, to no sex.
Well yeah but also mean by younger I mean shota and teenage or I should said young/youth, Sorry.
Childhood friends as well.
I know the different between Yaoi and shounen ai. :\
I look up shounen ai all the time but never good at find those type of stuff. All I find is Teenage that look manly.
I'm looking for less manly teenage type. In likes: Wolfram/Yuuri form Kyou kara maou, Mikage/Teito from 07-ghost. Even though those pairs/characters just from bl hints show.
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I only know some BL that I like that kind of feel like Yuri.
I start to find Yuri is more pure then yaoi.
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I'm guessing those Yuris are really Shoujo-ais...o-o;;
Um Yuris still mean Yuri-sex, but to me I call it Yuri since it mean Lily.

16 years ago
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I remember that there are quite a few school life yaoi where guys in their late teens date their school mates? This type is not uncommon.
If you mean that the seme always looks older, I don't think I can argue with that. But that doesn't mean they are much older, they just look bigger so older. Yaoi authors often make their semes look much more huge and older even if he's of a similar age to the uke. That seems to be a convention.

16 years ago
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Well, for one thing, yuri (shoujo-ai) is all about female love. Girls are normally associated with the image of anything that is pure, for example, flowers. And if girls are associated with such images, then artists are more likely to keep the romance gentle and serene compared to the images of rowdy boys.
Yaoi on the other hand is a world of manga filled with sex for the fan girls, but then again, it all depends on what you pick up to read. Not all yaoi contains just sex.
And another thing, yaoi is much more in demand than yuri. It's how mangaka's keep their bank accounts full after all. 😀
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16 years ago
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I know the different between Yaoi and shounen ai. :\
I look up shounen ai all the time but never good at find those type of stuff. All I find is Teenage that look manly.
I'm looking for less manly teenage type. In likes: Wolfram/Yuuri form Kyou kara maou, Mikage/Teito from 07-ghost. Even though those pairs/characters just from bl hints show.
So your'e looking for shounen-ai/yaoi that's between two bishonen type guys? Usually only the 'uke' is a bishonen, but your'e looking for a manga where the 'seme' is young/boyish.I think that most of the smes are manly because yaoi is mostly for girls/women fantasy of romance. The uke is supposed to represent the girl and the seme represents their ideal partner, so I guess that people think that women all want manly men
16 years ago
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I just watched/read some yuri earlier, for some reason I find Yuri is very different then Yaoi. In Yuri their all was seem to be young girls dating same age girls, but in yaoi its seem their to be stuff I don't like all was there i.e. sex, adult x adult, pedophile, trap, and, shotecon, and seme/uke. What happen to young boy dating other young boys ( shota and teenage)?
Have you tried old-school shounen ai, like works by Takemiya Keiko and Hagio Moto? There will still be some things in there you don't like, but that sounds like more of the feel you're describing here.

16 years ago
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Ok, first of all, I'm pretty sure that shouta is 15 and under.
5-15 to be exact.
0-5 is some other "con", but I always forget the correct term...
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Well, for one thing, yuri (shoujo-ai) is all about female love. Girls are normally associated with the image of anything that is pure, for example, flowers. And if girls are associated with such images, then artists are more likely to keep the romance gentle and serene compared to the images of rowdy boys.
Yaoi on the other hand is a world of manga filled with sex for the fan girls, but then again, it all depends on what you pick up to read. Not all yaoi contains just sex.
And another thing, yaoi is much more in demand than yuri. It's how mangaka's keep their bank accounts full after all.
I agree with this.
Though I've read a number of rather smutty yuri (bless the mangaka who wrote them and Lililicious. XD).
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16 years ago
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So your'e looking for shounen-ai/yaoi that's between two bishonen type guys? Usually only the 'uke' is a bishonen, but your'e looking for a manga where the 'seme' is young/boyish.I think that most of the smes are manly because yaoi is mostly for girls/women fantasy of romance. The uke is supposed to represent the girl and the seme represents their ideal partner, so I guess that people think that women all want manly men
Yeah but both seme and uke are boyish/young.
:\ I find that sad, I don't understand woman writing that kind stuff even though i'm girl. Its like i'm reading gender bender when I post read BL.
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I remember that there are quite a few school life yaoi where guys in their late teens date their school mates? This type is not uncommon.
If you mean that the seme always looks older, I don't think I can argue with that. But that doesn't mean they are much older, they just look bigger so older. Yaoi authors often make their semes look much more huge and older even if he's of a similar age to the uke. That seems to be a convention.
Yes that what i'm talking about. I guess your right there, its just I don't like about kind stuff easy to tell who the uke and seme.
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Have you tried old-school shounen ai, like works by Takemiya Keiko and Hagio Moto? There will still be some things in there you don't like, but that sounds like more of the feel you're describing here.
Not really but I'm planning to read that soon. old school is the only thing I come to if I want to read that kind of bl.
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Ok, first of all, I'm pretty sure that shouta is 15 and under.
5-15 to be exact.
0-5 is some other "con", but I always forget the correct term...
Is it shota with con at the end mean underage sex and with older guy?
When I look up shotacom with shounen ai with out yaoi.
All I see is same thing Older guy with a kid.
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Well, for one thing, yuri (shoujo-ai) is all about female love. Girls are normally associated with the image of anything that is pure, for example, flowers. And if girls are associated with such images, then artists are more likely to keep the romance gentle and serene compared to the images of rowdy boys.
Yaoi on the other hand is a world of manga filled with sex for the fan girls, but then again, it all depends on what you pick up to read. Not all yaoi contains just sex.
And another thing, yaoi is much more in demand than yuri. It's how mangaka's keep their bank accounts full after all.
I thought so and I have to agree with on that since it all sound so true to me.
Its hard on me that i'm not much yuri fan I used to be long time ago. So when I pick BL manga its more hard then yuri to pick up.