As some of you may have noticed, we recently had a large boom of scanlations from a certain series (which will remain unnamed, about 5-6 volumes of the stuff in the last few days). It came to our attention that the translations were stolen without permission. The original translator contacted us and we have taken down the group and the releases from our database. We do not sanction the stealing of translations, so please do not report releases of any stolen scanlations or scanlations made with stolen translations.

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We do not sanction the stealing of translations, so please do not report any stolen scanlations or scanlations made with stolen translations.
So don't report it, you say?

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And it isn't the "scanslation" that is really stolen, as I see it, but it was the translation. Not defending, but the header is mid-leading about the matter.

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I think it gets the point across, but I fixed those few problems. Thanks for pointing them out.

To have a release posted, it is reported. Not reporting it means its not posted. You've confused that with "Not reporting that its stolen". I hope you see the error you've made.

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So stealing translations is bad. What about groups passing off official English releases as their own scanlations? I won't mention names for now, but I suspect that one group has recently released scans from Viz manga.

There's even one group that all releases are scans from US publishers like Viz, Del Rey, DrMasters, Tokyopop and others.

This thing is the same as stealing translations maybe even worse. IMO you should respect the publisher by not posting that kind of release.

Waiting for lambchopsil......

Uhh, I've seen at least too groups/people and they didn't say "oh I'm one person and I did the scanning, translating, editing, QCing all by myself". Why even leave the copyright page then? O_o

[color=#990066]My avatar was Yves Saint Laurent's The Black Evening Dress (with big bow) first shown in 1983, photographed from his 2002 retrospective and final show.[/color] [color=#CC0066]Check out some of his collections for free (pre-2008) HERE[/color] [color=#CC0066]courtesy of FirstView[/color].

Actually, I don't know if it's just the wording. I guess lampchopsil meant by "so please do not report" meaning don't list or include it as a release but it sounded to me like "oh don't report [tell, 'tat-tail', rat out]".

And an extra note, when I view the replies I noticed that the text I italicized do not show up formatted. Why have the option being able to put BBCode if it doesn't show up here?

[color=#990066]My avatar was Yves Saint Laurent's The Black Evening Dress (with big bow) first shown in 1983, photographed from his 2002 retrospective and final show.[/color] [color=#CC0066]Check out some of his collections for free (pre-2008) HERE[/color] [color=#CC0066]courtesy of FirstView[/color].

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Now that's a lot of replies...

When I said "so please do not report," I meant that do not go to your User CP and report it as a release to us, since it would be a wasted effort and would not make it onto the site database.

@Takiko: I don't know why the italics don't show up. That's not really my department

@roxybudgy/samsters24: We have several groups that scan US volumes of stuff. I'm not sure about stealing translations the US volume though...The issue with us is the claim that you translated it yourself and not Viz or whatever company did it. As for respecting their translations and not scanning it in the first place...You see those DVD rip groups for anime? Think of it that way. Translators are in low supply. If there's already a volume out in the US, why take the time to translate, edit, proofread, and QC if you can just put it through a scanner? Yes, it's not legal. Heck, EVERYTHING about fansubbing/scanlating isn't legal. It's about morals (certain ones...) It's about claiming it as your own work. You usually don't see those kind of groups that just scan the US stuff and claim that they translated and did all the other work, do you? Now let's talk about the group which started this whole news post (and their name will STILL remain nameless.) This group took translations (several volumes...) from a site that explicitly said that his translations were not to be used in any scanlations unless with permission. This group did not get permission. They did not give credit. They did not give any form of acknowledgment to the translator. They didn't even bother to change the wording around. I mean, COME ON! When you take someone's work (like say...you copy someone's homework), you gotta be smart about it and change some words around, right? At least PROOFREAD the translation and don't be so blatant about it. It was also really suspicious since when in the history of scanlating do you regularly release like 5 volumes of a manga in a period of like 3 days? It's just not possible if you do it like any other scanlating group.

@Takiko: I don't understand that last post of yours

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Testing italics...

[edit]seems to work for me... On my own side note, i've increased the spacer width for the threading.. makes everything a bit easier to read >_>[/edit]

lambchops pretty much said it all. We try to operate on the same principles the founders have laid out on the anime site.

Ah nevermind, was either having problems seeing or works now. X] 🙂

[color=#990066]My avatar was Yves Saint Laurent's The Black Evening Dress (with big bow) first shown in 1983, photographed from his 2002 retrospective and final show.[/color] [color=#CC0066]Check out some of his collections for free (pre-2008) HERE[/color] [color=#CC0066]courtesy of FirstView[/color].

I suppose my post didn't make any sense because of that last sentence. But I was just saying that if the people that were scanned licensed manga were claiming credit for having done the licensed version of the manga they scanned, they wouldn't bother to even scan the copyright page, but I've seen this page in a these groups' releases. They aren't hiding that someone has published it in the USA.They could do something even worst like charge people for it, as I see it.

They must really want to just share manga if they go to the trouble of scanning because it still takes time. (And scanslation people that do that amount for their scansations when the work is 4 four times as much want to do that too.)

But as mentioned, scanslation isn't very legal as it is. But who knows, maybe a person finds a manga that was maybe scanned like this and reads some of it that way, but they find in the end they liked enough to purchase it. After all, with a scanslation it usually requires a computer to view it. (Because even some manga that wasn't licensed before completed their scanslation, but people still want to go buy the book version with translations.) If a person doesn't want to pay for manga, they will find ways around paying for it in the end anyhow.

[color=#990066]My avatar was Yves Saint Laurent's The Black Evening Dress (with big bow) first shown in 1983, photographed from his 2002 retrospective and final show.[/color] [color=#CC0066]Check out some of his collections for free (pre-2008) HERE[/color] [color=#CC0066]courtesy of FirstView[/color].

And that's part of the reason why the outside community (the CORRECT side of the law) tolerates us.

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