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18 years ago
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What "aspects" do you find the most important in a relationship? Or even the "pros" and "cons" of one?

This came to mind from a conversation my roomies and I had today cause one of my roomies broke up with a girl cause she was too "clingy".. so we got onto the topic of "pros" and "cons" of relationships and the important aspects of one. They happened to make some valid points (except for a few stupid ones that one of them named first

no condoms 🤣 ) and aspects. So I wonder what everyone else's opinions are on the subject.

Personally, I hate when people act as though a relationship defines you both as a "whole" (can't think of another way to put it). But what I mean is, that a lot of people forget that just because you're in a relationship together that doesn't mean that you're not an individual. And I understand the whole "clingy" thing. No one wants someone in their face 24/7. Just because you're together that doesn't mean you have to be with each other constantly. Though, I've always been extremely indpendent so maybe that's why I feel that way. Another is trust... and I find that I have a few things that I think goes along with trust - jealousy and insecurities (if you trust someone, you shouldn't be constantly plagued with them). I think those are two of the biggest relationship killers.. only because if you get jealous (a little is fine) I relate that to not trusting the person. And I'm sorry to say, but constantly reassurring someone can get annoying.

I could name dozens of others.. but I'm not.


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You certainly like to debate with your roomies a lot.. 🤣

Yes, clingy and jealousy is absolutely bad.. I believe that trust, honesty and individuality are the foundations of a good relationship..

And also you don't have to have a lot in common to be a great couple.. Opposites can work great too.. Besides, having a lot of common is kind of boring.. 🤣 😛


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Ok this will probably be a big post with a lot of generalizations. The generalizations apply to people I know, so please don't get offended.

Cons:

  1. Manipulative women. You know those that get what they want. Usually the naive, innocent type that will pout and cry till you do what they want.

  2. Sly women. Those that seem nice but after you date them for a month they turn a 180 on you.

  3. Bossy women. Example: You see your gf everyday, but haven't seen your friends in a month. All your friends gather just because they haven't seen you in a while, but then your gf calls and nags you to pick her up and go to the movies because she is bored at home. And the guy listens.

  4. Depressed women. Self-explanatory. Those that are 24/7 depressed.

  5. Clingy women. Those that call you every 5 min to talk for 20 min at a time. Example: My friend's gf went to another city to study for a month. It was long distance yet she called his cell everyday and talked to him for an hour. The guy got a $500 bill at the end of the month instead of usual $50. Which brings me to...

  6. Women who take everything for granted. Guys already give a lot of attention to their gfs, yet they demand more, which results in us usually not sleeping or not seeing our friends. Example: My friend drives evey night to his gfs which takes him 30 min, hangs out with her for 30 min, then drives back another 30 min. And then the guy complains that he never has gas. Or when women demand to see us when we got exams. And just try to tell your gf: "I'll see you in a week, when exams are over"

  7. Naive/innocent women. Why? Because every time you have a fight they start crying and tell their sister or family about it, and her family hates you. A couple's fight should stay between the couple.

  8. Women who think the world revolves around them. Example: When a girl asks to drive her and her friends to their respective houses, and does it in a tone that says: "You should consider it a privelege"

  9. Women that don't appreciate anything. We work our asses of so that we can pay for you at the movies, take you to restaurants and pay for you all the time. So appreciate it! And give us some breathing space.

  10. When one is invited that doesn't mean the other is also invited.

I think thats it for the cons.

Pros:

  1. You don't have to have sex by yourself anymore 😛

I think thats it for the pros.


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I completely agree with you, Meta.. 😃 Though isn't 6 and 9 the same..? Although 6 is more about attention and 9 about material stuff..


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They are similar, but I felt both should have been mentioned with examples given.


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I must point out that good relationships need work. There is give and take (ex.: she does not like sports, he does not like shopping...he does not have to go to the Mall; she does not have to spend Sunday watching ESPN). respect for each other space (clingy, possessive, jealousy.. all bad), communication (tell each other what irritate you so you can find a way around it, but do not do it right away... the way you mean it may sound very differently when you are mad. Also tell each other what you liked, so it keeps coming). Those are examples. You need together time, but without a doubt you need your own time away from one another.

Part of the problem is that at the beginning, most people are in their “best behaviors” because they want to be liked by that special one you are attracted to. My best relationships were with “friends”. No pressure, more honesty about who we were.


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I've never been in a relationship, and the same goes for most of my friends, so I don't know how valid what I write actually is.

But I think that you sacrifice for the relationship, and you gain from it. No one should have to give up other friendships, no one should be too clingy, etc. That brings more pain than joy.

Meta, thanks for that. I know what I don't want to be in the future.


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Pros:

  1. You don't have to have sex by yourself anymore 😛

I think thats it for the pros.

LOL. geez!

  1. so dinner $ is split in half >D
  2. there's something to do on Valentine's Day!
  3. there's somebody to pick on 😀
  4. and somebody to watch scary movies with
  5. and I can take ballroom dancing without having a stranger as my partner
  6. and somebody to bother at 3AM in the morning.... and hopefully won't get mad..

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relationships are impossible to avoid

In more ways that what you may think; especially if we consider that "relationships" are more that the ones between men and woman; you can run, but you can not hide...


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Is there a type of woman Meta didn't name?


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Is there a type of woman Meta didn't name?

Actually, those are mostly the cons, but it's a pretty similar list to types of woman.

Although, there are at least 2 types that aren't listed, which are the women that is able to order a guy a around without using him (probably more similar to what I would see on a sitcom, but I can't remember which one it would be...maybe Friends?) and there is probably still a doormat type of woman that seeks approval from her male partner because she might be lacking in self-esteem.

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Pros:

  1. You don't have to have sex by yourself anymore 😛

I think thats it for the pros.

LOL. geez!

  1. so dinner $ is split in half >D [color=green]<-- maybe...[/color]
  2. there's something to do on Valentine's Day! -- [color=green]more like someone to get in trouble *with, when you forgot about Valentine's Day[/color]
  3. there's somebody to pick on 😀 -- [color=green]do guys really need a girl to pick on? Are they in the 5th grade? I guess that person isn't going to have a girlfriend unless the two met on Feb 13, and maybe it's still not a sure thing...[/color]
  4. and somebody to watch scary movies with
  5. and I can take ballroom dancing without having a stranger as my partner -- [color=green]the guys will probably put up with the dancing, but once married, will refuse[/color]
  6. and somebody to bother at 3AM in the morning.... and hopefully won't get mad.. -- [color=green]or maybe just more patience. Probably wise not to do this repeated or every 5 minutes in the same night[/color]

Just though I'd add comments, although I'm not a guy, but I think the answers are good guesses. 😳


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Is there a type of woman Meta didn't name?

He missed a couple.
~Woman who never shut there mouths.
~Woman who never want to do anything themselves and always ask you to do it for them.
~Woman who are drama queens, and blow everything out of proportion.

as for Pros. you missed.

~The type of girl with an open mind..... ___(So VERY important)
~The type of girl that is willing to listen. / (So VERY important)
~The type of girl that is cool with you and all your friends.
~The type of girl that's smart/ has common sense
~The type of girl that's into the things your into.
~The type of girl that buys you (yes the man) things
~You'll have two places to live! unless you both live together.
~She has family and friends. Connections, Connections, Connections......Unless you break up with the girl on bad terms... 🤢

Anyway... Everyone has cons. Everyone has pros. As long as the pros outweigh the cons (heavily is preferable) then there is no reason to bitch about it. If you find someone else that you feel is better... well than move on.


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Sigh But of course, depending on which cons you have, the more pros you need to combat it.


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Polite bump.

Important aspects:

  • Trust
  • Honesty
  • Commitment
  • Affection
  • Individuality

Ehm, pros are that you always have someone to rely on, and who is always there for you in rough times? : O Cons is that it's hard to combine two individuals with each other, so you have to work for it, it's no lazy man's job. But that's how we humans are! We strive. In just the same way, we strive for peace, we strive for balance in a relationship too.


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I agree with Doccy on the important aspects part.
As for pros and cons..I don't really know much about that..yet..


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