what can be use as the power source for air trek? what is so small but powerful enough to power up an Air Trek?
and we need an engine small enough to fit into air trek...
argh..!!! i'm at a dead end!!!! 😢

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I think electric is the best way to go for the power source. We can use Nihm battery to get the most power in the smallest size.

For controls I was thinking of analog touch pad under the big toe for accellerate and another pad to stretch under the rest of toes for cut power. We could use traditional rollerblade friction pad for a brake.

A gear selector sounds fun for, but I don't know if we could fit a transmission as well as gear selector and clutch for that. I was thinking to build a single gear direct drive first and once we work the bugs out we can add transmission gears later.

Send me the schematic and I will let you know what we can really fit for sure

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dose anyone have any advice on books that i should read for the AT's ?
and i agree with the 0,1,2,3,4,5 step thing it would be alot easyer
and the wheels for the AT's are really wide im guessing thats why they can fit motors in them
i also found a couple of small mini powerful motors that might be small enough to fit in a wheel
http://www.robotmarketplace.com/marketplace_motorsmisc.html
sorry im too new when talking
i dont really know alot about electronics

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I think electric is the best way to go for the power source. We can use Nihm battery to get the most power in the smallest size.

For controls I was thinking of analog touch pad under the big toe for accellerate and another pad to stretch under the rest of toes for cut power. We could use traditional rollerblade friction pad for a brake.

A gear selector sounds fun for, but I don't know if we could fit a transmission as well as gear selector and clutch for that. I was thinking to build a single gear direct drive first and once we work the bugs out we can add transmission gears later.

Send me the schematic and I will let you know what we can really fit for sure

i had the schematic from the manga, but how do i send it to you?
😕 😕

btw, what do you think about this motor?http://www.robotmarketplace.com/marketplace_motorsmisc.htm l
thanks to izzymaru for this link.

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np
so what type of wheels r we useing

making air trek eh?
sound good... but how to make it...
you need strong component.. something carbon like or titanium...
to move a man with (average 50 ~ 70kg).. some strong motor required..
to move a strong motor you need a strong electric source...
a battery like is impossible...
to think about it... how about motorcycle liquid battery..
its large but you can design it a little smaller... its light (depends on material)
about the controller....
how about ' the motor start run after we surf ( i mean when the wheel start to move )'
and stop when the wheel idle (how about set it at 3 sec.)
its lil bit energy saver...
but when we surf... we move our leg... maybe it faster than the motor...
so the motor might break or so.... but it can be solve if the are clutch between the gears...
but how to put a clutch that small.... than how to make sure it wont break....titanium or carbon like material?
to make a motor that cam support human... a strong magnet needed...i'm sure it would be damn expensive that no one can buy it.. mostly...
if that the case.... we will haunt others... fight for the parts.... it parts wars...
then will some one will create regalia... but dont think that you can surf to something like tokyo tower... its impossible.... go study some science...

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making air trek eh?
sound good... but how to make it...
you need strong component.. something carbon like or titanium...
to move a man with (average 50 ~ 70kg).. some strong motor required..
to move a strong motor you need a strong electric source...
a battery like is impossible...
to think about it... how about motorcycle liquid battery..
its large but you can design it a little smaller... its light (depends on material)
about the controller....
how about ' the motor start run after we surf ( i mean when the wheel start to move )'
and stop when the wheel idle (how about set it at 3 sec.)
its lil bit energy saver...
but when we surf... we move our leg... maybe it faster than the motor...
so the motor might break or so.... but it can be solve if the are clutch between the gears...
but how to put a clutch that small.... than how to make sure it wont break....titanium or carbon like material?
to make a motor that cam support human... a strong magnet needed...i'm sure it would be damn expensive that no one can buy it.. mostly...
if that the case.... we will haunt others... fight for the parts.... it parts wars...
then will some one will create regalia... but dont think that you can surf to something like tokyo tower... its impossible.... go study some science...

we know climbing tokyo tower is impossiple by current technologies.we merely trying to make air trek a reality, not trying to copy it directly, but if we can then we will.

as for the materials, we can use carbon nano-tubes, its harder than metal and lighter.
for speed controls, we can try one of my idea or vinceasuma.
we'll find a way to make it real. human minds are capable of anything.
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np
so what type of wheels r we useing

i'm still figuring that out. perhaps we could order a custom made wheels for prototype.

come on guys. hundreds of ppl visit this site but only few participate. i may sounds crazy or optimistic, but trust me that if we work together we can work this out. 😃

i just finished reading wikipedia about air trek, and i've been thinking about the "Hydraulic Cushion System". is it possible?
here, i'll put it's article here:

Air Trecks, or AT for short, are a brand of fictional inline skates in the Air Gear series. Air Trecks are different from inline skates in that they have motors and air cushions in each wheel, which lets the users do things that are normally impossible with inline skates.

What Are Air Trecks?
Basically, these are high-end, customizable, motorized inline skates composed of three major components: Wheel Motor, Hydraulic Cushion System, and Power Injection System (basically Electrical Injectors for power control). A Braking System is incorporated with most equipped with a power-lock switch built on the outer sole of the skates (this overrides the acceleration system and enable the Air Trecks to operate as normal inline skates). However most Riders use a Spin-Turn Stop technique, instead of a deceleration system, to come to a complete stop. In any case, speed is generated proportional to the power of the user's leg; the assist motor accelerates based on the force of the kick. Also being customizable, many of skaters have tricked-out their own Air Trecks to suit their own style; changing with various combinations of parts, even screws and/or readjusting the balance, can alter the speed and performance of their Air Trecks tremendously. But speed aside, the biggest thrill of Air Trecks is the precisely calibrated air cushion system, which gives these self-propelled trick skates their juice, allowing the Riders to "fly".

Generally, Air Trecks are very expensive (running normally ¥100,000 a pair), requiring regular maintenance and tuning. Also each pair is installed with a special data support network via a program called READ, which allows Riders to access performance data on another Rider from the data stored on the memory card inserted inside the AT.

Customization
Air Trecks are fully customizable in every aspect, from the skate's design, to the wheels, and even down to the screws. By combining various parts, one can truly make their own unique Air Treck.

Most standard-issue parts are available at most sporting goods stores, but the rare parts must be purchased at specialty shops, which tend to be hidden.

Team members often have identically customized ATs, such as the Yaou's military jeep style ATs.

The standard Air Treck has two wheels, but it is also possible for 4 wheels on each Air Treck, and even using spheres instead of wheels.

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lightning - Please don't double post anymore. I don't want to tell you what to do, and I am not a tattle-tale, but I like to work on this project with you and I would hate to see you get banned or if this thread gets locked cuz you can't follow rules.

That said:

Does anybody know of any mechanical engineers, propulsion engineers, or other scientist/engineers that would help us work this case for free? I have contact with inventors, factories, and model builders in HK and China, but they are really expensive and I don't know if we can afford to build this. We definitely need help from someone who understands these things.

Carbon Nanotubes sounds like a good idea, but where do we get those? I checked the grocery store near my house, and they don't carry that.....

Edit:

Just received the schematic from the manga......not helpful. I will have to build from various images in the manga. At this point I would like a collective decision: Who AT are we going to build? I think Ikki's is the obvious answer cuz he is main char, but the fat tank char has big 4 wheelers (right?) might have an easier time to re-create? While we are at it...we could make the big At that Ume made while eating the mushrooms on Vol4?

lol

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lightning90, [color=red]STOP[/color] double posting. I warned you before, and this is the last time I'm gonna. You even pmed me an apology the first time it happened, but do you stop? NOPE! Last warning.

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to site admin, sory again.

to vince,

i've seen in tv there's a mechanical shop online. we only send the schematics, list of the part, then they'll make it for us. we just need to finish the schematic first. i know the schematic from the manga didn't do much. argh!!! we need an engineer here!!!! 😐

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engineers have much better things to do than create fictitious inline skates.

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engineers have much better things to do than create fictitious inline skates.

Burrnnnnnnnnn. but seriously from what i can see, you can't make a model that would surpass speeds capable by normal skates, without making it life threating to the user.

Can't read >_<

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engineers have much better things to do than create fictitious inline skates.

The only thing most engineers have to do is engineer projects and make money. If we can get an engineer to help us develop this for free, we can patent it and include the engineer on the patent. Also, India and China produce soooo many engineers that don't even have jobs right now. I'm sure there is someone out there with an engineering background that has nothing better to do right now. All we have to do is find the right people.

Don't you ever watch you tube? there are loads of people who have nothing better to do than these type of projects. Especially if there is a chance someone could get hurt.

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I HAVE ALWAYS WANTED TO MAKE AT's!!!

anyways,

I think that the best course of Action for a prototype, would be to make one that did not have the "engine"

perhaps, just 2 wheels, suspension, and the "shoe" itself.

but a idea I had is that if you do use electricity, then put some metal in the wheels, and wrap wire around the top of the wheel, so when the wheel spins, it generates a small amount of electricity that could extend the life of the battery.

also, I would suggest having the 2 wheels on a small suspension, so when you jump down from more that 2 feet, you don't break you and your AT's.

I Completely agree with the Topic starter! AT's need to be made.

Another possibility, is get "O GREAT" or whoever has the rights to Air Gear to go to a rollerblade company, and suggest the Idea for AT's.

then money could be mad, and dreams could come true.

I shall give as much support as I can to this project!