according to blackbeard's crew, most logia fruit users are quite weak without their ability.

Now luffy has Haki which means he can hit anything now. Does this mean that almost all logia users are a cake walk now?

obviously we can't assume the admirals and some pirates are weak without their power, but I'm guessing the brothers, croc, smoker and a few other ones are going to be quite weak from now on.

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according to blackbeard's crew, most logia fruit users are quite weak without their ability.

Now luffy has Haki which means he can hit anything now. Does this mean that almost all logia users are a cake walk now?

obviously we can't assume the admirals and some pirates are weak without their power, but I'm guessing the brothers, croc, smoker and a few other ones are going to be quite weak from now on.

Even if Luffy has Haki, it's not like they lose their ability...they can still freeze/smoke/dehydrate him to death, just he can hit them back

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hmm the way i see it. Blackbeard said that because logia cant even use their powers against blackbeard. But haki is different. The logia users can still use their power but luffy's punch will actually hurt them instead. So no cake walk. More like they're on even grounds now.

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hmm the way i see it. Blackbeard said that because logia cant even use their powers against blackbeard. But haki is different. The logia users can still use their power but luffy's punch will actually hurt them instead. So no cake walk. More like they're on even grounds now.

didn't you see blackbeard litterally getting smoked by ace? So it does work, but just for that one brief moment of touch the fruit stop working

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well rayleigh was able to evenly fight kizaru.....even with considerable age difference......and kizaru's logia can be said to be supreme.....i mean light is everywhere....so haki totally rules over logia powers
but if sm1 has logia + haki then it can be a tough one.......luffy just got lucky with the electric guy in skypiea who had logia + prediction haki cos current doesnt work on rubber.... 🤣

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Also, Smoker isn't completely reliant on his logia. He also gets physical, so he can hit people with the seastone.

And the whole crew doesn't have haki. If someone other than Luffy finds themselves fighting the wrong enemy, they're still just as unable to land a hit.

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Most Logia users are weak? Dude! How many Logia users have we seen so far? Smoker, Ace, Crocodile, Enel, Aokiji, Kizaru, Akainu and Blackbeard. Which one on them is weak? If there's even any, they are probably only those 2 idiots from the movies... and I don't have to remind you that it's not canon.

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