Nope. The reason earth is habitable is cause its the proper distance away from the sun. too close leads to evaporation of water if there was any at all. and any further you get ice-planets. Water is the staple of life, or atleast a staple to how we evolved. (i personally like to entertain the fact that there is life outside earth, for the following reason)
There are billions of billions of stars out there, each one of them with a solar system of its own that holds its own set of planets. To think that there isn't even a 1/100000000000000000 chance that a planet be a certain distance away from a star and have the proper basic gases that can come to react and form together is just plain ignorant.

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also again using the whole "1/1000000000000000 chance" thing to say that yes, even if its just that one out of a thousand billion or so, there should be atleast one planet that holds a successful sequence of evolutionary developments to come up with what we have today
(apologies if this was from too far back in the convo)

Also for the arguements on war and fighting:
I can't quote it line for line, but i remember many/some religions have "punishments" for certain things. Like being stoned to death for being homosexual because its not what "god intended".
If god did not intend it, then why is it so? Does this prove his fake omnipotence to not be able to stop homosexuality? or does it reflect the decisions of a person of old who claimed to see a being no other could see, so that he may give people false hope during times of trouble?

That's honestly what I believe religion to be, actually. Someone either saw it as a chance for power if they could become a messenger of some omnipotent being, or as someone who wished to find a reason to give his people hope when all seemed lost. And throw in a little bit of misunderstanding of natural events, along with a lot of "lost in translation" parts, and you get todays religion.


Tho i don't bash religion, don't get me wrong. I think its great to have found something to believe in and have faith in. I personally haven't found something to sway me from logic yet, but I'm still keeping an eye out. I personally just like parts of Buddhism, with the attitude of "don't worship anyone, just be true to oneself and work to make your life worth it, without trying to impress anyone but oneself in some unsure promise of a better life after this one."

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In all seriousness, I'd like to talk a little bit about my beliefs to make my position clear. I believe the most important part of the human entity is the spirit, not the body or mind. Man is in fact an immortal spiritual being, with many past lifetimes. Any person's capabilities are of infinite power, if only he can access them through the use of Dianetics.
A successful person can access two mindsets, Clear and Operational Thetan. Operational Thetan is especially important, because once any person reaches it they have godlike powers over themselves, as well as time and space. Truly, they have reached a level where they can communicate with the Supreme Being.
This Supreme Being is in fact the same as the great gods of all the main religions in existence. He communicates with us all on a subconscious level, which explains his importance in so many cultures around the world.
Through the practice of Dianetics, you and I and any human on this earth can reach a state of mind where we can truly know and touch the Supreme Being (ie God). I hope this has been clear and informative for everyone. See here for more information.

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2 things.....
1-i really really really love what you wrote
2-which manga is the pic in ur signature from?

I don't believe in God as described in any religion, and I don't think there is life after death either (though I'd like to believe there is, but I know I'd be lying to myself if I did). Even if there is some sort of godlike being, I can assure you that none of the existing religions got it right; though we cannot exclude the possibility, however unlikely, that there exists an omnipresent, omniscient, everlasting entity that could be defined as "God", but such an entity couldn't possibly be anthropomorph or have a gender as in male/female.
But I think you should think of "holy books" as scientific theories from a distant past; I think for the people who live then it was merely a way of explaining their surroundings (for some reason, we humans really can't stand not being able to explain things that vex us). But the rule for scientific theories is that the theory remains valid until proven wrong; I think by now we've established that whatever these "holy books" say is not what actually happened, so I think people should stop trying to hold onto outdated theories (you wouldn't keep wiping your behind with stick now that we have access to toilet paper, right?)

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No good, indeed.

The Supreme Being is in fact all-good, so she is not wrong.

If we take all-good as the opposite of no good, then we can take what she is saying to be that it is worse to have the supreme being than having a cruel god.

Soooo that means she is a masochist?? She wants a cruel god after all, to punish her.

But that's only if we consider all-good to the opposite of no good, if we take all-good to the opposite of negative all-good, then no good is between the two the extremes.
Then she could mean that having the supreme being is equal to having a cruel god.

just so you know, that probability there is way too generous. For example




How much do you know about Creation? Have you ever read a legitimate book written by PhD creationist scientists? Also the Bible is written on eyewitness accounts, unlike the evolutionary history that is constructed to fit the evidence.

“Any rational debate requires the honest presentation of both sides. But there exists a powerful, self- styled ‘intellectual elite’ [that] would have a debate wherin only one side was heard- while the other side was either ignored or grossly misinterpreted”
-John Sanford Ph.D, Courtesy Associate Professor, Dept. of Horticultural Sciences, Cornell University. Genetic engineering pioneer, inventor of the ‘gene gun’.


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I understand you completely, but I disagree. Here is a picture of the Supreme Being. How could anyone believe this to be cruel?? Inconceivable!

you could not do anything for me to believe he is WORTH something. yes, maybe there is a god, but that doesnt mean that he created, rules, and controls humans. i think the idea is simply rediculious. so its impossible to make me believe that anything about god is reasonable. aparently, if im mean, i am evil so i go to hell. if i "sin" im evil, so i must go to hell. if i am a "non believer" i am evil, so i must go to hell. humans are mistakes.

my religion = the reasons humans are so "inteligent" was because of a simple evolutionary mishap. simple.

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So exactly what kind of supernatural experiences are you talking about?