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4:46 pm, Aug 3 2013
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11:49 pm, Aug 3 2013
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How many of you who don't care about the art watched that anime "Aku no Hana"?
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1:09 am, Aug 4 2013
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Hands down great plot/story>bad artwork.
But generally, I can take anything except for terrible storytelling (and what genre as well). The best art can't make up for a terrible plot period.
Those who complain about art when the story is exceptional are shallow as heck. One example I can think of on the spot (since I recently reread it) is Dance Subaru. Let me tell you, the art was a mix of manga and realism--not a good combo but it provided the means of tension and intensity that the plot was bringing across.
But generally, I can take anything except for terrible storytelling (and what genre as well). The best art can't make up for a terrible plot period.
Those who complain about art when the story is exceptional are shallow as heck. One example I can think of on the spot (since I recently reread it) is Dance Subaru. Let me tell you, the art was a mix of manga and realism--not a good combo but it provided the means of tension and intensity that the plot was bringing across.
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1:41 am, Aug 4 2013
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Great story overshadows bad art.
Bad art usually makes me reluctant to start reading the series, but once I see that the story is good, I don't pay much attention to the art. In fact, I often grow to like it too. (Well, mostly when it's more "original" than "bad", e.g.: One Piece or Ares.)
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Bad art usually makes me reluctant to start reading the series, but once I see that the story is good, I don't pay much attention to the art. In fact, I often grow to like it too. (Well, mostly when it's more "original" than "bad", e.g.: One Piece or Ares.)
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5:40 pm, Aug 4 2013
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I'll take anything no matter how bad so long as I find it entertaining. For example, the original Onepunch Man (not the ones currently being released) has absolutely terrible art, but I still read it. I guess I do like rough artwork, like Alice in Hell and Dorohedoro, but not bad artwork. There is a difference Manga where there isn't real images (like buildings in the background) in almost every panel is nice.
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7:17 pm, Aug 4 2013
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If the art is bad, I wouldn't consider reading it no matter the plot, so definitely not #1 for me. Average art with a great plot is a completely different story, but about bad art I don't have any tolerance. Bad drawing bothers me a lot, so if every page is an eyesore, then no story is good enough. I wouldn't go with #2 either, though--if the plot is so bad that I would end up only looking at the pretty pictures and not reading any of the words, I wouldn't say it wasn't enjoyable (I do love beautiful pictures), but at that point, I would consider the work to be just an artbook and not a real manga.
So that leaves the two midway options, but I don't have too much of a preference between them... I can deal with average art for a good story and vice-versa. I guess I will pick the one where the art's better, so I'll go with #4.
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So that leaves the two midway options, but I don't have too much of a preference between them... I can deal with average art for a good story and vice-versa. I guess I will pick the one where the art's better, so I'll go with #4.
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12:16 pm, Aug 5 2013
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Exactly. Artwork is the FIRST thing to hit your eyes, whereas plot takes TIME to digest. If the art is bad, chances are I won't read the manga long enough to immerse myself in the plot.
However, for mangas that you're already hooked on, bad art becomes secondary to finding out "what happens in this week's episode?"
You all are forgetting the greatest example:
PENCIL X SKETCH.
aka Hunter X Hunter, the horrific pencil sketch versions, where you often can't even tell what's supposed to be happening in the panel.
... We read those anyway, didn't we? (suckers, us)
However, for mangas that you're already hooked on, bad art becomes secondary to finding out "what happens in this week's episode?"
You all are forgetting the greatest example:
PENCIL X SKETCH.
aka Hunter X Hunter, the horrific pencil sketch versions, where you often can't even tell what's supposed to be happening in the panel.
... We read those anyway, didn't we? (suckers, us)
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4:06 pm, Aug 5 2013
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If I wanted a great story without the great art to go with it, I'd read a book. To me, Manga has to at least look good. What's the point of reading a graphic novel otherwise?
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5:53 am, Aug 6 2013
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Quote from voraciouszest
If I wanted a great story without the great art to go with it, I'd read a book. To me, Manga has to at least look good. What's the point of reading a graphic novel otherwise?
A good story is all a book has going for it, if the story is bad, then the book is bad.
Manga has both the story and the art too choose from - if one is exceptional, then the other one doesn't have to be that good.
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6:20 am, Aug 6 2013
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Great plot and story, the art doesn't really matter as long as I can grasp the situation. Angel Densetsu and Claymore are best example for "Great plot and story can cover bad artwork".
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6:43 am, Aug 6 2013
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This was a really fun poll!
It was a tough one for me, but I chose the great art with nonsensical plot in the end. Maybe that makes me a superficial person? I'd like to think it just points to my heightened sensitivity to the visual, aesthetic quality of a work (lol)
Outside of these (definitely) imperfect options, a great plot and story is usually just as important to me as pleasing artwork and effective execution. Also, I have actually been put off different manga (mangas?) multiple times because of bad artwork, but from what I remember the plot of those manga wasn't great either... so really there was nothing to keep me reading anyway.
It was a tough one for me, but I chose the great art with nonsensical plot in the end. Maybe that makes me a superficial person? I'd like to think it just points to my heightened sensitivity to the visual, aesthetic quality of a work (lol)
Outside of these (definitely) imperfect options, a great plot and story is usually just as important to me as pleasing artwork and effective execution. Also, I have actually been put off different manga (mangas?) multiple times because of bad artwork, but from what I remember the plot of those manga wasn't great either... so really there was nothing to keep me reading anyway.
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6:25 pm, Aug 8 2013
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6:25 pm, Aug 8 2013
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Its art is nice imo, and supposed to be this way. Creepy titans are meant ti be creepy.
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12:09 pm, Aug 9 2013
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To me there's a difference between amateur-like or old school art and ... art that's just bad taste xD I kinda only saw the pictures on google though... not interested in that kind of shoujo at all. Ofc I have my limits - but I'll still drop a bad story with awful characters faster than a good story with bad art.
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12:57 pm, Aug 9 2013
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12:57 pm, Aug 9 2013
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I love baby finger but I don't think it's necessarily bad art. It's a certain style and I think as soon as you start reading it it hooks you. I need great art for mediocre story lines but it doesn't last long. I get sad when art is really great but the sentence structure, and plot is so confusing and boring. Dengeki Daisy has kind of become that...
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2:25 pm, Aug 9 2013
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I would pick story because I think the art is there to make things easier for you to understand. So it's also hard to justify having a bad art that just gets in the way of the story. But If the story is bad I would just drop the manga no matter how good the art is. On the other hand I would just try to read on even if the art is bad if the story is worth it. But you won't know if you'll like the story if you won't pick it up because of bad art... It's hard to be a leech. So yeah, good story/bad art for me. It would be the other way around for H titles though...
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