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"Swine flu" is no more dangerous than seasonal flu.

The vaccine is everywhere right now, it's crazy. And they keep spewing lies about it as well as the swine flu. First of all, do not get the vaccine, and don't give it to your children.

You have internet, do some research. I can not even believe how ignorant I was about it when it first broke out like crazy in the media.

Oh, and take at least 1000 IU of vitamin D every day.
You will be just fine. The vaccine has a much better chance
at killing you, or paralyzing you for the rest of your life.

My exact thoughts. For the sake of all you love, do NOT get the vaccine. The swine flu is no cause for panic. 😔

Isn't this a bit exaggerating? Exactly how many (a percentage) has died or been paralyzed by the vaccine? I know none, and I've heard of only one. One source suggested that 1 out of 100 000 die. Isn't that a good rate for a vaccine? 99.9% gets an immunity from it, and some of them get minor reactions (which are normal). As I understand it is not like every other vaccine on the market besides swine flu vaccine has a 0% risk. Of course it is also true that even if there's a 0.001% risk to get something serious out of that shot you'd hate be that unlucky part of the 0.001%...

I'll hug your problems away.

Well, the media doesn't tell you about the small percentage of people that die from normal flu vaccination, but rest assured, that people do die from the normal flu vaccination.

Hmm, it seems like a lot of people on here think the danger of Swine Flu has been overestimated. Well, that's true concerning H1N1 since despite the fact that it spreads more quickly than other flu strains, it's only really dangerous to the old, the young, those with compromised immune systems and those with respiratory problems. So it's mostly complications that are dangerous. However, it makes more sense if you consider that what the health officials are ultimately worried about isn't the virus itself. They're worried that what happened in the 1918 pandemic will happen again: namely that the virus will mutate into a more deadly form and retain its ability to spread quickly. With modern transportation being what it is, if that were to happen the death toll would undoubtedly skyrocket above the 50 million that died in between 1918 and 1920. Well, lab cultures of H1N1 with other flu viruses yielded no mutations, so the chance of that happening seems low, but the U.S. government, at least, has undertaken an immunization program just to be safe. Even if it doesn't mutate, though, if you're in a high risk group, it would be smart to get vaccinated anyway,

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But wait...

If the damn thing mutates enough, wouldn't that make the vaccine ineffective to some extent?

Anyway, a flu vaccine only protects you for a couple of months, is not permanent, and it cost money, so you would need to spend a few more bucks every 3 or 4 months... that sounds like corporate bullshit, I rather take my chances and be careful than spend money on something as foolish as that (is like a license for software... just that in real life >_<)

If i catch the flu, then I just ask for a couple of days off at work, have some rest, and improve my health with both a healthy diet and medicine.

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But wait...

If the damn thing mutates enough, wouldn't that make the vaccine ineffective?

If it mutates at all the vaccine will be ineffective for the new strain and they would just have to make another one. I already got the vaccine so now I'm just hoping it doesn't mutate ever.

Either way, I think Swine Flu is not as awful as people make it out to be. It's no worse than some other flu strains.

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Hmm, it seems like a lot of people on here think the danger of Swine Flu has been overestimated. Well, that's true concerning H1N1 since despite the fact that it spreads more quickly than other flu strains, it's only really dangerous to the old, the young, those with compromised immune systems and those with respiratory problems. So it's mostly complications that are dangerous. However, it makes more sense if you consider that what the health officials are ultimately worried about isn't the virus itself. They're worried that what happened in the 1918 pandemic will happen again: namely that the virus will mutate into a more deadly form and retain its ability to spread quickly. With modern transportation being what it is, if that were to happen the death toll would undoubtedly skyrocket above the 50 million that died in between 1918 and 1920. Well, lab cultures of H1N1 with other flu viruses yielded no mutations, so the chance of that happening seems low, but the U.S. government, at least, has undertaken an immunization program just to be safe. Even if it doesn't mutate, though, if you're in a high risk group, it would be smart to get vaccinated anyway,

Or what the health professionals are worrying are the possible conditions after it, like pneumonia. The virus has already mutated in some parts of the world (like Ukraine, though I'm not 100% sure how that turned out) but I've yet to hear a mutated version that's rampaging all over the world. As for the thing that it's dangerous for the young, exactly how young? Where does the line go? I know many people in their 20's or so who have had no life threatening condition from the dicease. But I agree with the vaccine, wether you are in a risk group or not. It is as safe as a normal vaccine ever is and it can't hurt to have the protection.

I'll hug your problems away.

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If the damn thing mutates enough, wouldn't that make the vaccine ineffective to some extent?

It already is ineffective~

Studies also show flu vaccines do not work, and especially with children. On May 19, 2009, researchers at the International Conference of the American Thoracic Society in San Diego, presented a study that found children who received the trivalent inactivated influenza vaccine [TIV] had a three times greater risk of hospitalization for the flu than kids who were not vaccinated.

In 1993, FDA commissioner David Kessler reported in the Journal of the American Medical Association that, according to one study, "Only about 1% of serious events are reported to the FDA."

Based on this report, and other studies regarding the reporting of "serious events," one comes up with an estimated figure that 1-2% of all serious adverse vaccine reports are actually recorded. When you combine the VAERS data together with the adverse events reporting studies, there is only one dreadful conclusion. In the United States each year, anywhere from an estimated 3,900 to 7,800 infants are poisoned to death, as a direct result, of being vaccinated.

If this figure is too startling or shocking for you to swallow, consider an ultra-conservative figure that states that 10% of adverse vaccine events are reported. Even with that figure, we can be sure that about 780 infants are poisoned to death every year.

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I had the swine flu which I contracted from my friend and I was fine after a week. Many of my friends had it too and all of us are living our lives like we did before.

The news is over-exaggerating the actual facts.

I contracted the flu during June-July, and just last month (November) me and my family took the vaccine shot.

Everything is A.O.K Nothing like what you've heard/seen on the news had happened to us and the majority of the Australian population.

I had the swine flu it sucks but it didn't last long at all. I was better within 4-5 days i guess i was lucky cuz i have/had asthma and could have had complications that led to my death if not diagnosed properly 😲

In my country there have been a lot of people who developed complications and died in a short while after getting ill with the swine flu.
There have also been cases where people got the disease after taking the vaccine but that must have been because they were already in the incipient stage of the flu and after taking the vaccine the illness developed faster.
I don't think this should be taken lightly since there have been a lot of people who died so if you can prevent not getting ill in any way, then stay healthy.
At least it keeps you alive and kicking.

As for myself, I won't be taking the vaccine anytime soon since I don't really trust the medical system in my country. I never take pills if I'm sick or if something hurts I'd rather endure it. And the consequence is that I don't get sick often. I get a cold one time per year, and that's the most. Never had anything more serious and I hope this is how things will work from now on.

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I think I had swine flu. I caught some super-nasty bug and then got my roommate sick. When her's dragged on and she finally got to a doctor, he said she had pnemonia and it probably developed from swine flu. Sorry, Jane!!!
If I did have it, it wasn't much worse than a cold or really bad allergies. Surprising since I'm a high-risk person (thanks to asthma).

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Me: Performing Random Acts of Klutziness for over 30 years.

Or what the health professionals are worrying are the possible conditions after it, like pneumonia. The virus has already mutated in some parts of the world (like Ukraine, though I'm not 100% sure how that turned out) but I've yet to hear a mutate