What exactly is Naver? I need to know to determine its current "publisher" status

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Naver should not be considered a publisher, because it's as much of a publisher as blogspot and deviantart are; since, Naver is something of a combination google/yahoo (and geocities)/msn thing.

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Like Toto said, it is a search portal similar to Google/Yahoo. It's also a blogspot~ Members can post their webcomics/manhwas there. By definition it can be considered a "publisher" because the authors that post their stuff there are their own publishers (like deviantart), but nothing gets distributed or printed outside of it. (They don't distribute or print works.) I wouldn't consider it a publishing company, if that's what you mean.

Same with Daum.

Edit: Ohh wait, Naver here is listed with Naver Webtoons which is a bit different. To get an idea of what that is, well it's like the Korean version of smackjeeves.com. People post their webtoons (webcomics) there and others can view them for free~ But there are some cases where, they (web portal- Naver) would pay popular manhwa-gas to continue posting their work. . =O

Again, not sure if that's considered a publisher since they don't distribute or print anything. But the popular series do get published by other publishers~

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So what's your opinion in leaving it as a "publisher" or allowing foreign webcomics to be added as series to MU?

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I think having amateur foreign webcomics on here is kinda strange, but I mean we have Doujins, so probably following the same rule as that would be good. Only gets a page if it's translated or whatever.

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So what's your opinion in leaving it as a "publisher" or allowing foreign webcomics to be added as series to MU?

Eh, no, they shouldn't count as a publisher. They do pay the manhwaga to post their work, but like I said nothing is distributed or printed, not to mention, that other publicized series get posted there for online viewing as well.

As for allowing foreign webcomics to be added as series, I'd also say no to that. I won't go into why that might be a bad idea, but maybe if they weren't added as a 'series' it wouldn't be a bad idea. I mean, there'd have to be requirements as to what can be added and what can't, right? <-< Just my opinion~

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So what's your opinion in leaving it as a "publisher" or allowing foreign webcomics to be added as series to MU?

Eh, no, they shouldn't count as a publisher. They do pay the manhwaga to post their work, but like I said nothing is distributed or printed, not to mention, that other publicized series get posted there for online viewing as well.

As for allowing foreign webcomics to be added as series, I'd also say no to that. I won't go into why that might be a bad idea, but maybe if they weren't added as a 'series' it wouldn't be a bad idea. I mean, there'd have to be requirements as to what can be added and what can't, right? <-< Just my opinion~

Personally, I think that if they pay their artists like Zuda (which was another English webcomic publisher under DC Comics), it's alright to have a page here.

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Personally, I think that if they pay their artists like Zuda (which was another English webcomic publisher under DC Comics), it's alright to have a page here.

Is this in reply to why I think Naver shouldn't be considered a "publisher" or my opinion on webcomics being added to the database? O-o If it's the former, well yeah, okay, but Zuda Comics is an actual publishing company. They distribute the author's work and have prints. Naver doesn't, and it doesn't pay all its authors.

If you meant the latter, I agree. But then you are singling out certain webcomics from others. If foreign webcomics were to be added to the database, you can't exactly be biased; if you allow one, then why not allow all the others? O_O This is why I said if it were to happen there should be requirements.

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Personally, I think that if they pay their artists like Zuda (which was another English webcomic publisher under DC Comics), it's alright to have a page here.

Is this in reply to why I think Naver shouldn't be considered a "publisher" or my opinion on webcomics being added to the database? O-o If it's the former, well yeah, okay, but Zuda Comics is an actual publishing company. They distribute the author's work and have prints. Naver doesn't, and it doesn't pay all its authors.

If you meant the latter, I agree. But then you are singling out certain webcomics from others. If foreign webcomics were to be added to the database, you can't exactly be biased; if you allow one, then why not allow all the others? O_O This is why I said if it were to happen there should be requirements.

Haha, I guess I was a little vague. But yes, I meant as a publisher. But I didn't now that about Naver. So if they don't print stuff/pay all their authors, I can see your point why shouldn't be added right now.

(and in regards to bias requirements, forgive me if I digress a little. But I've always wondered: Why is it doujinshi are allowed? And novels are allowed, but not doujinshi-made novels here?)

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Naver, gahaha! o.o

But since BaeSooky says that they are just foreign webcomics I think we should disallow them. If we allow those, that means a whole slew of webcomics are up for being added to our database.

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Naver, gahaha! o.o

But since BaeSooky says that they are just foreign webcomics I think we should disallow them. If we allow those, that means a whole slew of webcomics are up for being added to our database.

But aren't webcomics already being added here? O_O I've seen many added as series here, like all those from Naver, for example. If they are being published then there should be no problem. At least, I think Lambs meant published webcomics. O_o

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Yeah, referring to non-published webcomics, of course.

If they are being published, then they meet the criteria to join our MU database.

Also, @CC, doujinshi technically don't get added to the database anymore too, unless they're being translated. That's the expection for doujinshis to be added here, just as how having a publisher is the exception for korean webcomics. At least that's what I've gathered.

Lambs can clarify here and in the FAQs. 😮

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Looks like I'm joining a bit late. But probably would help to read.

Naver is a lot like Google. Not in the fact that they're search engines, but the fact that they do a lot more - although known for being a search engine mostly (Actually, naver is hardly a search engine. But that's a nerdy IT technicality). Naver defines about 70% of the Korean Internet believe it or not. (Google is 5% of the world's Internet). From blogs, digital music distribution, youtbue-like services, etc. Just like how Samsung also makes cars (you probably didn't know that), Korean companies never tend to do 1 thing. They're always distributed. So, someone like Naver also does manhwa publishing. Also, by dictionary, the word publish does extend to electronic, not just print.

There are several categories of Naver comics. They're divided into "webtoon"/serialized, best challenge, challenge, pay.

I'll explain in reverse b/c it'll make more sense that way.

The pay category usually contains comics that are printed and are digital redistribution licensed. Titles like Zippy Ziggy for example are under there.

Challenge manhwas are what you could call original doujinshi made by your average drawing Joes. Anyone can put something up there. There is no pay.

Best Challenge pretty much means "best" out of challenge manhwas. And out of the best, some become Naver's "webtoon" after signing a contract but they must restart fresh (not a single image can be reused). Titles like Sfumare are here.

**"Webtoon"**s authors are paid. Contract, as far as I know are similar to those of typical comic publishing ones. Publisher (ie naver) gets all controls. They publish it, and the authors get some pay (not by page count tho). Webtoons like Nobless, Tower of God, etc are here.

Why does Naver pay these authors for manhwa that's completely free which will definitely not return in ad revenue? Probably b/c they want to keep their market share. Otherwise, every webtoon lovers probably would flock to Daum (their biggest competitor).

As for my opinion, anything under contract to do a paid work which is (digitally/print) published deserves to be in MU.

Edit: I also forgot to add. Some of these webtoons are in print.
Titles like Nam Gi-han To be an Elite, Let's Fight Ghost, Family man (is that even on here?), etc has print versions.
Though, I put some text over it, you can see pic of Nam Gi-han here:
http://manhwa.grumpyland.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/namgihan.jpg
Lets fight ghost! 2 (sequal)
http://www.aladin.co.kr/shop/wproduct.aspx?isbn=8996054070
etc... Tough, the print version do differ obviously as they are cut up to fit pages.

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