Ok, I was reading Domina no Do (Which I HIGHLY regret doing), and it made me sick on how the Takeshi was being treated by everyone, and how he was just going along with getting beaten just because he thinks Hikari is cute (Personally she look fugly to me. Especially with that five-head she has.).

So after trying to unsee it, it got me thinking: Why are there so many "romance" manga/comics/novels where the main character gets abused beyond human tolerance, and yet takes it because of the one they want? And then there was another question that popped in my head: How come there are even more of these stories coming out every year with the same plot that's basically "Drag the main character through shit, hose off just their face off a bit, and then drag them through the shit again"?

Now I know that this may look like the first thread I've made (Females Truly Rule Anime & Manga), but I'm talking about any main character (Male or female) that's been treated horribly. I want to know your opinion on this topic. I've placed my four guesses as to why this is happening and also a 5th option in case anyone had a different reason.

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The mangaka like it since it is a
common fetish in Japan.
Probably due to their loyalty
to other people.

People like to make comedy out of things that would normally traumatize a person.

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Well, its simply the Master-Slave fetish (the kind you could do in appropriate clubs) transposed in manga, with comedy in it.
I think, psycologically speaking, Master-Slave is kind of appreciated because it has a "love/concern" component in it (Master cares in an unique way for the slave, if you can get the -distorted- meaning): Master orders around its slave but that makes their relationship "close". Maybe its a lack of love/appreciation/self esteem that brings people into this kind of fetish, i can imagine they are thinking "but someone who looks after me exists after all", while "looking after me" is represented by monopolizing and ordering around the slave. Ok kinda warped but y'know human feelings are like roots: if they encounter a stop or an obstacle, theyll simply grow in a different direction.

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I choose option 4 because I doubt there are that many masochists/sadists around. Of course, I could be wrong. And I don't think it's option 1 because there are many ways to put conflict into a story, and if there is so much of this type of conflict, then there must be a reason.

As for me, I don't think I read many of these "abuse" type manga. The only one I can think of offhand would be Love Hina. And I admit I found all the abuse Keitaro gets (and his remarkable ability to get out of them unscathed) hilarious. Although if you count any manga with tsundere character(s) as "abuse" manga, I suppose I read quite a bit of those because there's one in so many manga.

Yay conflict

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How about a choice:
Because in no other situation a rich girl would make a move on a weak four eyed sucker.

I really don't know what you are complaining about such stories really don''t come around as oten as you say they do. Most of the stories are about girls who play maid role and are willing to serve. So it's only normal that authors would try a different aprouch to gain popularity.
Not that a like these kinds of manga, plus I stoped reading your mentioned one right after a saw how hideous the drawings were.

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I choose option 4 because I doubt there are that many masochists/sadists around. Of course, I could be wrong. And I don't think it's option 1 because there are many ways to put conflict into a story, and if there is so much of this type of conflict, then there must be a reason.

As for me, I don't think I read many of these "abuse" type manga. The only one I can think of offhand would be Love Hina. And I admit I found all the abuse Keitaro gets (and his remarkable ability to get out of them unscathed) hilarious. Although if you count any manga with tsundere character(s) as "abuse" manga, I suppose I read quite a bit of those because there's one in so many manga.

Nah, i dont think Love Hina fits in the "S/M" situation: its more a slapstick harem comedy with "tsukkomi-like" situation, where the "boke" gets it really hard, than an "abuse/mild abuse situation" manga. Imho :3

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Because the mangakas are weird and want to write these kinds of stories...
They know that readers would rather have heros/heroines that are worse off then them to feel better about themselves(we are known as selfish people).
So, they use that to their advantage to put these types of horrible stories into their manga to make more money, to sell more copies when they should be using more imagination and creativity to write/draw something that actually matters and is realistic.
Meh, also the fact that most people love reading those stories for some weirdass reason 🤢

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i think the they're just trying to make it interesting and unique because there's way too many romance mangas out there, they're trying to distinguish themselves from the crowd

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Agree.
I voted number 1.

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Why do you think there are some many of these abuse stories coming out?

Because, it's funny... Runs away.

Well, I picked 2 because I like 'seeing / reading about' abuse. 😮
Yay, long live masochists!

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How about a choice:
Because in no other situation a rich girl would make a move on a weak four eyed sucker.

I really don't know what you are complaining about such stories really don''t come around as oten as you say they do. Most of the stories are about girls who play maid role and are willing to serve. So it's only normal that authors would try a different aprouch to gain popularity.
Not that a like these kinds of manga, plus I stoped reading your mentioned one right after a saw how hideous the drawings were.

Guess you don't read alot of shoujo. One of the worst shoujo cliches, imo, is the stupid main girl falling for the abusive rich/handsome guy and angsting while he tortures her, only to completely melt when he makes his advances. I'm a guy and even I find this completely offensive not to mention just stupid.

I don't mind it so much in shounen usually because it's done for humor (i.e. after the dood is caught accidently peeping) and there aren't pages and pages devoted to how the guy feels so terrible and mistreated. It's still annoying when done every chapter though, like in To-Love-Ru and Love Hina.

Anyway, to answer the OP: Alot of Japanese guys have a tsundere fetish. Meh. The abusive girl seems to be just another extension of that. Plus it's a cheap and easy way to insert some fanservice - Boy accidently sees girl's panties, girl flips out and knocks him off the panel 🙄 Can't for the life of me understand the main girl, abusive guy scenario though, because it's portrayed much more seriously and much more angst.