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Furthermore, when addressing the subject of striking a woman, I'd naturally assume that it would be out of anger, and not a reactionary measure to a threat of bodily harm. Most reasonable people, I'd think, would also make such an assumption.
~ Why do I assume that? Because in what context do you think of hitting a person? Of course, If someone casts the first stone, retaliation is inevitable.

not promoting women beating...thats a complete different thing...in this question thats not the point

So yea, this topic clearly isn't about hitting woman out of anger. Its about HITTING Women.
Point.
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Period.
Whether its self defense or abuse, hitting a woman = hitting a woman = hitting a woman

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Women aren't like men. Never in my life have I met a girl who has jumped a guy, or a guy who has been jumped by a girl. And I know lots and lots of gang members.

My point is this. The chances that any man will be in a situation to strike a woman in self defense is so small that it's almost negligible. Women, for the vast majority, are not like that. Uncheckable, unyielding aggression is largely a male trait.

True those chances may be small, but when a woman is swinging her heels at your eyeballs, you tell me if its almost negligible. Wat do you have to support this claim? Even with the numbers to support it, that doesn't change the fact that it does happen. You can't downplay it, cause once it happens to you it won't seem so negligible all of a sudden. Trust me, I've had women come at me with box cutters before, so yes IT DOES HAPPEN.

And who are you kidding? So what you know gang members. What woman do you know would get in a fight with a gang member? Exactly. Now, a woman in a gang doesn't give two shits who you are... your ass is gonna get cut.

Back in high school girls used to beat the SIN out of dudes that did something extra rude or perverted (I talkin black eyes and broken noses). If that dude could actually fight, THEN they would go get the brother/boyfriend....

Your experiences seem too secluded for anyone to accredit when you try arguing against this... Go out and see the world. Get beat up a couple times. Beat someone up a couple times... Date a black woman that "don't play that"...

Ya feel me?

The thread starter is an idiot. Flat out. It's the same as asking 'would you hit someone in self defense.' If you added that caveat to the OP, that much would have been clear, but it isn't. It's asking whether or not I would hit a woman, and I would never do so, because I would never have to. Under ANY circumstance. I know better ways of dealing with that.

As far as me knowing gangbangers, I know Cholas, homie. A REAL man would not be attack by a female in that context.

Also, I posted a link in my previous post.

Here it is again.

http://social.jrank.org/pages/1253/Violent-Crime-Gender-Differences-in-Violent-Crime-Offenders.html

Factual evidence backing up my claim.

So STFU, n00b. 😛

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The thread starter is an idiot. Flat out. It's the same as asking 'would you hit someone in self defense.' If you added that caveat to the OP, that much would have been clear, but it isn't. It's asking whether or not I would hit a woman, and I would never do so, because I would never have to. Under ANY circumstance. I know better ways of dealing with that.

As far as me knowing gangbangers, I know Cholas, homie. A REAL man would not be attack by a female in that context.

Also, I posted a link in my previous post.

Here it is again.

http://social.jrank.org/pages/1253/Violent-Crime-Gender-Differences-in-Violent-Crime-Offenders.html

Factual evidence backing up my claim.

So STFU, n00b. 😛

(a sigh of pity)

If you had actually read my post, you would've seen that I stated a killer/gangbanger would not be attacked by a female, which then again proves that you don't know anyone that would get attacked by a woman, which proves you get your facts from websites, which then proves your close-minded, which then proves the fact that I'm trying to prove.

You live a secluded life. I don't have to consider you opinion on this matter.
Fall Back.

(I would call you a noob, but I'm not a child)

P.S. No, I don't hit women out of anger. If a woman attacks me I'd either just take the blows or put them in a submission hold. No striking is neccesary unless she's like.... a trained assassin or somethin crazy along those lines

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The thread starter is an idiot. Flat out. It's the same as asking 'would you hit someone in self defense.' If you added that caveat to the OP, that much would have been clear, but it isn't. It's asking whether or not I would hit a woman, and I would never do so, because I would never have to. Under ANY circumstance. I know better ways of dealing with that.

As far as me knowing gangbangers, I know Cholas, homie. A REAL man would not be attack by a female in that context.

Also, I posted a link in my previous post.

Here it is again.

http://social.jrank.org/pages/1253/Violent-Crime-Gender-Differences-in-Violent-Crime-Offenders.html

Factual evidence backing up my claim.

So STFU, n00b. 😛

(a sigh of pity)

If you had actually read my post, you would've seen that I stated a killer/gangbanger would not be attacked by a female, which then again proves that you don't know anyone that would get attacked by a woman, which proves you get your facts from websites, which then proves your close-minded, which then proves the fact that I'm trying to prove.

You live a secluded life. I don't have to consider you opinion on this matter.
Fall Back.

(I would call you a noob, but I'm not a child)

P.S. No, I don't hit women out of anger. If a woman attacks me I'd either just take the blows or put them in a submission hold. No striking is neccesary unless she's like.... a trained assassin or somethin crazy along those lines

That was exactly my point. The odds of that happening are negligible.

Also, don't make any assumptions about me, because I have made none about you. From what you've posted, I could have retorted that you are the type of person who gets bullied by girls, because there is so much ambiguity in your post. I don't live a sheltered life, I have female family members that have been arrested for assault, and have several friends who have been faced with similar situations regarding females. They just aren't violent like men are. Period. And for the most part, if they need to be, they aren't balls out, square up like men are.

Essentially, what I am arguing is that saying 'I would never hit a girl' is not naive or shortsighted, but reasonable considering the context in which that question must be evaluated. Even if you try to disregard the differences in the behavior/biology of a woman, it will still be that any exception to the norm is so incredibly small that it becomes negligible.

I said 'n00b' out of jest after I re posted the evidence backing up my claims, that you ignored in your last post. You cited only anecdotal evidence, as did I. So that then becomes negating, leaving me with more citations. Basically, I substantiated my case.

Have a nice day.

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i think some of these ppl are getting wayy specific. some of ya'll need to relax. you'll never really get to fight each in an online argument anyway, lol.

anyway, this question is really just opinion based. i think that its pretty much always wrong to hit a girl. but there are always exceptions to the rule, of course.

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i think some of these ppl are getting wayy specific. some of ya'll need to relax. you'll never really get to fight each in an online argument anyway, lol.

anyway, this question is really just opinion based. i think that its pretty much always wrong to hit a girl. but there are always exceptions to the rule, of course.

Granted.

And your avi and sig are full of pure winsauce.

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No striking is neccesary unless she's like.... a trained assassin or somethin crazy along those lines

That was exactly my point. The odds of that happening are negligible.

Essentially, what I am arguing is that saying 'I would never hit a girl' is not naive or shortsighted, but reasonable considering the context in which that question must be evaluated. Even if you try to disregard the differences in the behavior/biology of a woman, it will still be that any exception to the norm is so incredibly small that it becomes negligible.

I said 'n00b' out of jest after I re posted the evidence backing up my claims, that you ignored in your last post. You cited only anecdotal evidence, as did I. So that then becomes negating, leaving me with more citations. Basically, I substantiated my case.

Yea, it seemed to me that you were arguing that a woman would never attack a man. I argued against that. You showed statistics. I argued that even with the statistics, woman DO attack/jump men. You seemed to call that negligible, which made your argument seem ridiculous and at the same time made you look extremely close-minded.

The fact that you considered the thread poster an idiot gave me stronger reason to believe this... Clarity would've saved everyone alot of trouble.

But then we move on.

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.......At my MIDDLE school a certain female classmate of mine came to school with a crowbar and beat the crap outta a couple guys and got the principle in the head... If the girl gets bitchy and talking doesn't work, I don't see why a slap can't be used.

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[b]No striking is neccesary unless she's like.... a trained assassin or somethin crazy along those lines[/b]

That was exactly my point. The odds of that happening are negligible.

Essentially, what I am arguing is that saying 'I would never hit a girl' is not naive or shortsighted, but reasonable considering the context in which that question must be evaluated. Even if you try to disregard the differences in the behavior/biology of a woman, it will still be that any exception to the norm is so incredibly small that it becomes negligible.

I said 'n00b' out of jest after I re posted the evidence backing up my claims, that you ignored in your last post. You cited only anecdotal evidence, as did I. So that then becomes negating, leaving me with more citations. Basically, I substantiated my case.

Yea, it seemed to me that you were arguing that a woman would never attack a man. I argued against that. You showed statistics. I argued that even with the statistics, woman DO attack/jump men. You seemed to call that negligible, which made your argument seem ridiculous and at the same time made you look extremely close-minded.

The fact that you considered the thread poster an idiot gave me stronger reason to believe this... Clarity would've saved everyone alot of trouble.

But then we move on.

I see we are at an impasse. I think more from the fact that we do not understand each other fully. I am simply defending those who would say that they would never hit a girl, and providing instances and circumstances for which that statement would apply. You seem to be arguing that to be naive due to unforeseen circumstances, using your own anecdotal evidence to support your statement, and while it might appear that certain situations would arise, proving you right to a degree, the nature of the human animal and the statistics thusly showing said nature make it akin to other unlikely events.

I simply argued that the occurrence of your scenario would be so unlikely that it is certainly reasonable for a large plurality, or even majority, to disagree with your evaluation of the conjecture of the thread.

As far as me referring to the TS as an idiot: the syntax of the opening post and the ambiguity associated thereof led me to this evaluation.

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To defend yourself = yes
Basically any other reason = no
Though I have broken that rule myself (with good reason I assure you), I think that statement basically sums up this thread.

"Only with an object no less in thickness than your thumb"

Yeah for Ye Olde laws 😀

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"Only with an object no less in thickness than your thumb"

Yeah for Ye Olde laws 😀

So your saying its ok to "beat that b*tch wit a bat."? lulz

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"Only with an object no less in thickness than your thumb"

Yeah for Ye Olde laws 😀

So your saying its ok to "beat that b*tch wit a bat."? lulz

Teh rule of thumb, so to speak.

Last time I checked, a bat was bigger than a thumb. Unless you mean a fruit bat, or some other flying mammal.

The best thing about the rule of thumb: Allows for the usage of whips. 😁

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"Only with an object no less in thickness than your thumb"

Yeah for Ye Olde laws 😀

So your saying its ok to "beat that b*tch wit a bat."? lulz

arggh should be "no larger" not "no less" 😐

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"Only with an object no less in thickness than your thumb"

Yeah for Ye Olde laws 😀

So your saying its ok to "beat that b*tch wit a bat."? lulz

arggh should be "no larger" not "no less" 😐

OTAY!!! Now that makes sense. Thus, the whip can't be thicker than one's thumb.

Good thing my thumbs are big.

Here's a question. Would the Ye Olde law allow me to hit her wit-my thumb?

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