Actually, the Red King is disqualified by the little thing called the Incarnate system. As Nico is able to use it, she hardly qualifies to the requirement of "no small scale use (as in useless in a one-on-one fight or close quarters)."
Oh, and even without, she isn't "useless in a one-on-one fight", as shown when she was dueling with Crow. Nothing really too subtle and no avoiding collateral damage, but usable in 1-1 anyway.
@Badkarma. Your forgot the pistol that demonblaze0 mentioned.
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a character only able to fight on a large scale
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Ah, you're right. I always forget about the Asspull system (let's call it what it is). Well, she is a King, I guess.
Right, she's not useless in a one-on-one fight in that form because she needn't worry about destroying every god-loving thing around her... but I already said that. She is, however, worthless at close-quarters in that form, to which the OP asks for someone "useless in a one-on-one fight or close quarters". She's not both, but she's certainly the latter. Enter the Asspull system.
Edit: No, I didn't. I was specifically referring to her fort form. I know she has that pistol, but any clown can wield a pistol and it's not really a spell or an ability. Wielding it well, however, is probably due to the Asspull system, which I did forget about. I'm only speculating of course, as I've not seen her fight with it, or even fire it outside of the time she delivered the "Judgement Blow". *shrugs*
Ugh, I know there's a character I'm forgetting that's large-scale only, personified, but I just... can't... remember... It's really annoying.
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Right, she's not useless in a one-on-one fight in that form because she needn't worry about destroying every god-loving thing around her... but I already said that. She is, however, worthless at close-quarters in that form, to which the OP asks for someone "useless in a one-on-one fight or close quarters". She's not both, but she's certainly the latter. Enter the Asspull system.
Edit: No, I didn't. I was specifically referring to her fort form. I know she has that pistol, but any clown can wield a pistol and it's not really a spell or an ability. Wielding it well, however, is probably due to the Asspull system, which I did forget about. I'm only speculating of course, as I've not seen her fight with it, or even fire it outside of the time she delivered the "Judgement Blow". *shrugs*
Ugh, I know there's a character I'm forgetting that's large-scale only, personified, but I just... can't... remember... It's really annoying.
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okay a little more explanation the character I'm looking for is generally useless in a one on one but not always because you can technically nuke one person
said character is actually unbeatable in one on one combat if they didn't care about innocent casualties or their surroundings
and I guess they could have normal or advanced physical ability as long as their power has no limiter
The Red King has large arsenal of varying long range weapons including weak weapons such as a pistol (which she claims is her strongest weapon but I'm guessing that means damage wise not destruction), so she doesn't fit
the character I'm looking for has but one weapon or power with the devastation of a small nuclear bomb
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said character is actually unbeatable in one on one combat if they didn't care about innocent casualties or their surroundings
and I guess they could have normal or advanced physical ability as long as their power has no limiter
The Red King has large arsenal of varying long range weapons including weak weapons such as a pistol (which she claims is her strongest weapon but I'm guessing that means damage wise not destruction), so she doesn't fit
the character I'm looking for has but one weapon or power with the devastation of a small nuclear bomb
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Vampire Juujikai, saddly he's very (very) strong in close/single combat, basicly the strongest in the world, so powerful infact, should he unleash his power it would cause Global Consequences and distrubences, (he never does use his power full power (ever)).
Tsurugi no Joou to Rakuin no Ko (Novel), closest I can find, basicly an individual who carries the "mark of the beast", he's not great, but not bad either, better then your average mercenary (since he's been one since he was very young).
But when the "Beast" within awakes everyone around him dies, be it one person or an entire city. Except one person (otherwise there wouldn't be any story would there^^).
His power as described is basicly "To eat/consume peoples Fate/Destiny of those around". And since you can't live without a Fate/Destiny (if you don't have one you're dead), therefor being within his vicinty when the beast awakes will unconditionally qaruante them to die by his hand.
The other person can see the future and her destiny is to die by his hand, so in order to live she needs him to consume her Fate which is to die by his hand which consecutently causes her to survive the "beasts" power, Fate is like a magnet and constantly returns to its original course, giving rise to a very unique relationship.
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Tsurugi no Joou to Rakuin no Ko (Novel), closest I can find, basicly an individual who carries the "mark of the beast", he's not great, but not bad either, better then your average mercenary (since he's been one since he was very young).
But when the "Beast" within awakes everyone around him dies, be it one person or an entire city. Except one person (otherwise there wouldn't be any story would there^^).
His power as described is basicly "To eat/consume peoples Fate/Destiny of those around". And since you can't live without a Fate/Destiny (if you don't have one you're dead), therefor being within his vicinty when the beast awakes will unconditionally qaruante them to die by his hand.
The other person can see the future and her destiny is to die by his hand, so in order to live she needs him to consume her Fate which is to die by his hand which consecutently causes her to survive the "beasts" power, Fate is like a magnet and constantly returns to its original course, giving rise to a very unique relationship.
Its found under Teaser Projects on the Baka-Tsuki Site.
If you ever find a story with a matching main character, please PM me about it.
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Hmm.. Just another side character, but doesn't the title character from Akira count? I don't remember any other physical manifestation of his powers other than going nuclear. Tetsuo was able to pull of all sorts of small scale shit, but don't remember if Akira ever did anything else.
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the character I'm looking for has but one weapon or power with the devastation of a small nuclear bomb
I don't know but maybe Eucliwood from Kore wa Zombie Desu ka? can VAGUELY qualify. I only watched the anime though so I can't be sure, but when
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she said "die" to Kyoko she obliterate every life form in her direction (grass, etc.)
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"devastation of a small nuclear bomb" that reminds me of Akuma no Ororon
it's been a while since i read it (and just few chapters, wasn't in mood to that kind of manga that time), so I don't know if she learns to control her power... but there is this kind of "small nuclear bomb" scene....
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it's been a while since i read it (and just few chapters, wasn't in mood to that kind of manga that time), so I don't know if she learns to control her power... but there is this kind of "small nuclear bomb" scene....
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Tsurugi no Joou to Rakuin no Ko (Novel) might fit and looks interesting
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still looking for manga with a character ONLY able to fight on a large scale
seeing as how few if any of the prior posts fit what I was looking for
to see if your post fits ask yourself the following,
"Can the character beat a civilian who is tied up with their ability/power without destroying much more than the civilian?"
If the answer was "Yes" then they don't fit.
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seeing as how few if any of the prior posts fit what I was looking for
to see if your post fits ask yourself the following,
"Can the character beat a civilian who is tied up with their ability/power without destroying much more than the civilian?"
If the answer was "Yes" then they don't fit.
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Well, I know it's a novel, not a manga, but the heroine from Tara Duncan seems to fit, especially in the first novels. She can rarely use her powers exactly as she wants, she usually ends up doing something large-scale along the way. If I remember correctly, somewhere at the end of the first book, she tried to do a simple healing spell and it ended up healing a pretty large part of the forest (she was using the spell to heal a person). She more often than not ends up destroying some thing or another when trying to cast simple, basic spells.
So, even if it's not what you're looking for, is it a good example of what you're looking for?
Hope I helped in some way. Good luck with finding a manga like what you're looking for.
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So, even if it's not what you're looking for, is it a good example of what you're looking for?
Hope I helped in some way. Good luck with finding a manga like what you're looking for.
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Blame! the weakest setting on Killy's gun is destroy everything in the path of the "bullet", and his "bullets" keep going. The only means of attack for him is said gun. He's also unstoppable.
Slayers (Novel) Lina Inverse may fall into this category. I think her smallest attack spell is a fireball. It usually consumes it's target as well as whatever is in the targets immediate vicinity thereby leaving collateral damage. She also has some swordfighting skills but it's rarely seen. At least in the anime.
There is also one character in volume 5 of Gunnm: Last Order, Getz, who normally fights large battleships singlehanded and his attacks are suited for such. Unfortunately we never get to see that since the manga went into tournament mode and he had to fight regular sized opponents, which he lost to, barely.
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Slayers (Novel) Lina Inverse may fall into this category. I think her smallest attack spell is a fireball. It usually consumes it's target as well as whatever is in the targets immediate vicinity thereby leaving collateral damage. She also has some swordfighting skills but it's rarely seen. At least in the anime.
There is also one character in volume 5 of Gunnm: Last Order, Getz, who normally fights large battleships singlehanded and his attacks are suited for such. Unfortunately we never get to see that since the manga went into tournament mode and he had to fight regular sized opponents, which he lost to, barely.
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these last 2 posts seem to fit
especially GUNNM: Last Order and Blame!
Slayers not so much because it's not that lina can only use spells cause more destruction than need but doesn't care about causing destruction seeing as she'll use dragon slave even against weak enemies
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especially GUNNM: Last Order and Blame!
Slayers not so much because it's not that lina can only use spells cause more destruction than need but doesn't care about causing destruction seeing as she'll use dragon slave even against weak enemies
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Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei (Novel) - The MC is extremely powerful and when he's with the right CAD, he can shoot a blast with the power of a nucler bomb. He's also good at close combat though~
I saw you're reading the manga, Idk if you're reading the novel but if you're not then you should, 'cause the manga is pretty far from when he uses his true powers~
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I saw you're reading the manga, Idk if you're reading the novel but if you're not then you should, 'cause the manga is pretty far from when he uses his true powers~
Last edited by xmariah201 at 3:00 pm, Aug 12 2013
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Quote from xmariah201
Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei (Novel) - The MC is extremely powerful and when he's with the right CAD, he can shoot a blast with the power of a nucler bomb. He's also good at close combat though~
I saw you're reading the manga, Idk if you're reading the novel but if you're not then you should, 'cause ...
I saw you're reading the manga, Idk if you're reading the novel but if you're not then you should, 'cause ...
doesn't fit, he fights and wins against some guy when joining the morals committee and doesn't destroy his surroundings
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Greed is the fear of having too little.
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