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"guilt rape" is it right?

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Door Mouse.
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15 years ago
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Guilt raping is a lot like guilt tripping, except you've done nothing to be guilty for and they force you to feel guilty.

I came up with this term after being thoroughly guilt raped by a "save these abandoned abused dogs" infomercial, which was right after a "these shitty kids are starving, pay us so we can feed'em" infomercial..

I like to believe that on a good day I can be a compassionate and sympathetic person. However, I've seen these "starving kid" ads since I was little. Sure their plight might be serious and real but I can't help but wonder about the effect these ads have on people, especially kids.

Its like these charities are turning them into pity whores.

So I was wondering if my thoughts were unique, does anyone else think in a similar way?

Also, I think that these ads, with their guilt and sadness inspiring imagery and music can be a lot more devastating to a child who can feel and interpret them than the swear words the networks currently censor.


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Erm, the title surely sounds misleading 🤣

You can never know, I have seen people ask you for money to help their kids and then when you turn around they are running to buy alcohol.

If it's ads, I don't really pay attention to those. And well, they use it because it works (maybe)


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Its like these charities are turning them into pity whores.

Yeah, it's called strategic advertisement. IT would be stupid if they had a bunch of fatties eating double cheese burgers with grease fingers on the front page. They need some hungry, poor, skinny looking pity.

Guilt that was coerced out of you? No, it's just you are human. Welcome to the human world. Here we help each other when we see them in need because we have something called compassion. If you worry about the organization using your money for something else, donate to legitimate institutions like the Red Cross or even your local church and any government agencies that support the homeless shelter.

Our natural state is to help each other, but due to the modern day interpretation and refinition of certain social moral concepts, donation became a "I'll donate when I, your highness, feel pity for you. And When I feel like help you, you shall bow before me and kiss my feet because I am so kind. I did something that was not obligated and yet I chose to. Now I am the best person in the world".


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I might have...

But just an interesting little tidbit...
You know those missing children adverts, but rarely missing adults, that you get in the mail or find lying around in the street... don't you find it interesting that on the other side is advertisements to random shit like office supplies or restaurants. Well, the reason for this is because those companies count on the guilt that one feels after you see the missing children (guilt raping as you put it) so that the viewer would try to relieve one's self by purchasing what's on the other side, which gives the sense that somehow he/she would supporting the cause (finding the kids).


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Erm, the title surely sounds misleading 🤣

I thought this was about something else. That I've encountered in a few too many manga/hentai.

By the way, rape is a strong term, darknova. I hardly think what your referring to is strong enough to really apply. Maybe you should work on a more appropriate term.


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I'm pretty annoyed at all this "feel guilty" stuff myself. I turn on the tele and it's like "Kids are starving, it's your fault, give us money."

Or just when I watch a film and it's like "you vicious white people, you enslaved and killed natives and destoy the na'vi's beautiful trees! feel Every problem in the world is your fault, feel guilty, and give us money."

I just don't understand how I in any way am supposed to be responsible for stuff that happened 200 years ago or things that are taking place on the other side of the world.


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It actually IS our fault, although we are not aware of it most of the time.

With buying products from discounters, we pour money into a huge business that destroys perfectly edible food to maintain it's value on the marked (if there is too much of it, the price has to be reduced). This food could very well be brought to starving children, but it isn't. Simply because of greed.
And because most consumers are either not aware of these mechanisms or don't care enough to get involved, they will keep on existing. In this case, doing nothing means helping the system to corrupt itself.
Just to proof my point.
Of course, there are many more sides to it, like clothing enterprises that manufacture their products in countries where they can pay the workers one dollar per day and force them to work 15 hours straight. And we keep on buying shirts for 6,90 at H&M and thus give them our consent.

I don't like their strategy as well, but it seems to be the only way to make the average western person aware of what happens beyond their monitors.
And if this is what it takes, by all means, keep on doing it.
You people bitching about being disturbed in your daily routine by pictures of distress are the core problem here...


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how do we even know that money goes entirely to the kids?
i dont tend to trust those commercials. you neve know. all it says is that "call this and that, send an sms, and you will feed a child for a day"
i dont see a guarentee that all my money is going to that child. i see my money go to random people who now also have my phone number, and will use that information.


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You people bitching about being disturbed in your daily routine by pictures of distress are the core problem here...

The core of the problem is whatever the charity is for, be it starving kids or abused animals. I wouldn't be as disturbed if they were actually taking care of the problem. However I think their method of "helping" is in some cases prolonging the problem. If they're unintentionally doing this then fine, they can just go and change their methodology, but if they actually do fix the problem then theres no more need for the charity and they'd be out of a job.

I'd be willing to bet that whatever area these starving kids from the commercials are in are areas which are inhospitable to agriculture, that or over population. Sure it might be insensitive but I don't think feeding them is the answer. Especially since the area probably can't sustain them.

If we allowed things to progress naturally probably 2 things would happen. They'd starve to death or they'd leave and find some where else that can sustain them. Either way no more starvation.

how do we even know that money goes entirely to the kids?

I know that for the childrens fund around 20% of whats donated to them is used to run the charity.


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how do we even know that money goes entirely to the kids?

I know that for the childrens fund around 20% of whats donated to them is used to run the charity.

aka, to feed and clothe the "employees" of said charity, organize their vacations in the Bahamas, their bonuses, their houses and cars, private schools, personal jets, etc' etc'.


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Well, you got to feed Sally Struthers some how, right?


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how do we even know that money goes entirely to the kids?

I know that for the childrens fund around 20% of whats donated to them is used to run the charity.

aka, to feed and clothe the "employees" of said charity, organize their vacations in the Bahamas, their bonuses, their houses and cars, private schools, personal jets, etc' etc'.

Like I said before, if you have read my comment, just donate to legitimate companies and government agencies. Red Cross is a good example. I work there and donations actually DO go to poor people.

The suspicion that your donation gets corrupted in the process sounds like a bad excuse for not donating....obviously the world is not rotten, otherwise you probably have to keep one eye open when you sleep because your parents might have other ideas about your kidney....


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Indeed, there are such kids that take it to their heart,
but then there are kids who just don't care and even
if they would care, couldn't understand.


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The infomercial for charities doesn't make me think twice before donating, what turns me away from donating to charities is when the ppl leading them take 6 figure salaries and other benefits. Such greedy bastards turn me away from donating. Then again i think no ppl deserves such high wages no matter the education or responsibility that comes with the job.


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I don't feel guilty because I've lived in pretty shit poor places when I was younger (technically born in a farming village in a shack). Its hard to feel guilty when I've experienced poverty first hand, sure I can empathize with them and some are even poorer than I was but it still doesn't make me want to hand them some money.


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