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To solidify my request. Let's see what the community wants.


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Discord is nothing more than spyware, so either no or find a better service.


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The browser you're using right now is also a spyware...


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The browser you're using right now is also a spyware...

No, it's not. Not all browsers are made the same, the same way not that all chat/VOIP software is made the same. Instead of using a platform where privacy and security is not one of it's priorities, nor claim to fame, why not use Telegram, Tox, even good old-fashioned IRC (Which this site already has a channel for)?


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The browser you're using right now is also a spyware...

Don't argue with the dude. Just move on.


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I don't have a deep knowledge as yours it seems. But I can clearly say most, maybe all of us used Google or Facebook or some kind. Our data is already in someone's hand and we don't know what they're using it for. We can use qTox. It seems like a great alternative for IRC. The reason why i'm offering discord is because almost everyone uses it. And there is nothing similar like that program. The features it provides are good. Anyway seems like this site is never getting a server on a newer and more fresh chatting platform. Also programs like Steam or Discord has to be a spyware in order to improve or provide complex features. If i'm wrong tell me. But while searching for this matter I realised that.


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But I can clearly say most, maybe all of us used Google or Facebook or some kind. Our data is already in someone's hand and we don't know what they're using it for.

Okay, and? Are you going to do something about it?

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Anyway seems like this site is never getting a server on a newer and more fresh chatting platform.

Isn't that referred to as "Innovation for innovation's sake"? If there's a better platform out there, I doubt people would mind using it, but Discord clearly isn't that.

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Also programs like Steam or Discord has to be a spyware in order to improve or provide complex features.

Mind listing off said features? Also, why isn't there an option where I can choose to opt-out this altogether, make the decision my own on if I want to "help" improve the platform instead of shoving it down my throat? Also, why even bring up Steam? No one in this thread has even mentioned that. For that matter, why even bring up Facebook, as well, when they are not relevant to the discussion either?


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Okay, and? Are you going to do something about it?

No, what i'm trying to say is there is no way for us to stay completely anonymous on the internet in the first place. All of us used some sort of spyware that connected to the internet. That's an undeniable fact. So my point in short is We don't need to be overly-cautious about our informations getting stolen. Our Precious informations are already on the internet somewhere. Also we are not like some Outlawers we don't need to be so cautious about discord storing our special conversations or what we sent to the server. That's my point. Also it's not like Discord stores our Credit Card informations. And addition to that Discord actually lets you see what they're storing about you

Isn't that referred to as "Innovation for innovation's sake"? If there's a better platform out there, I doubt people would mind using it, but Discord clearly isn't that.

Yes exactly. I mean I understand your point. You're saying that, all we need is staying safe and texting, that's the core needs for this community hence we don't need anything extra.
It is a very logical way of thinking but these small innovations, that IRC-like chatting platforms lacks is what makes Discord-like platforms more enjoyable. They give us more variability about what we can do in some situations. Like you can create a hierarchy in the server with the roles. Or whole server can be equal. And there is also other "innovations" like image preview, Streaming without any external programs (OBS for example). bla bla... I mean these are probably not necessities. But these innovations makes using that program more enjoyable.

Mind listing off said features? Also, why isn't there an option where I can choose to opt-out this altogether, make the decision my own on if I want to "help" improve the platform instead of shoving it down my throat? Also, why even bring up Steam? No one in this thread has even mentioned that. For that matter, why even bring up Facebook, as well, when they are not relevant to the discussion either?

Of course! The Streaming option that came to the Discord requires to view your currently using programs. Isn't that also a spyware's characteristic behaviour? Or you can connect your Steam, Youtube, Xbox, Reddit...
accounts to Discord. These are the wonderfull innovations that makes chatting and socialising more enjoyable. [b]Also there is an option in the Discord[/b] that let's you decide whether you want to improve Discord or not... The reason why i'm talking about Steam is because it's relevant to the converation that we're talking right now. This platform is also a spyware that provides Awesome features to it's users. It's all because of it being a spyware. I'm really in doubt right now whether you actually read what you sent me in the previous topics... Also I tried using Pale Moon Browser it was a great experience i think i'll keep using it. Thanks for reccomendations.


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No, what i'm trying to say is there is no way for us to stay completely anonymous on the internet in the first place.

Tor and VPNs exist, so I have to disagree.

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All of us used some sort of spyware that connected to the internet.

Previous post proved otherwise, but whatever.

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So my point in short is We don't need to be overly-cautious about our informations getting stolen. Our Precious informations are already on the internet somewhere. Also we are not like some Outlawers we don't need to be so cautious about discord storing our special conversations or what we sent to the server.

Isn't that argument referred to as "I have nothing to hide, so why should I worry about my privacy being violated"? It's not about whether or not you're an "outlaw", it's about the fact that they shouldn't be collecting this information in the first place, much more selling it off.

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And addition to that Discord actually lets you see what they're storing about you

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that a thing that only exists in European countries because of how the EU told Google, Twitter, and Facebook to knock it off? There exists no law such as this in America. On top of that, a screen shot doesn't mean jack and doesn't prove your point. Photoshop has existed since 1990. Provide me with a direct link, or, even better, an archive, and then I'll believe that.

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You're saying that, all we need is staying safe and texting, that's the core needs for this community hence we don't need anything extra.

I never said any such thing. I'm just said that suggesting Discord as a platform to use is a terrible idea, and laid out my reasons why.

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It is a very logical way of thinking but these small innovations, that IRC-like chatting platforms lacks is what makes Discord-like platforms more enjoyable. They give us more variability about what we can do in some situations. Like you can create a hierarchy in the server with the roles. Or whole server can be equal. And there is also other "innovations" like image preview, Streaming without any external programs (OBS for example). bla bla... I mean these are probably not necessities. But these innovations makes using that program more enjoyable.

Why do I get the feeling that you're a shill advertising Discord rather than being someone who naturally thinks it's a good platform? Especially since you're account didn't exist until three days ago, upon which the very first thing that you start doing is shilling how "This site needs a Discord".

And, that's on top of the fact that I suggested Telegram and Tox, two services that offer the same features Discord has without all the privacy concerns, and you even acknowledging one of them, but then trying to state that I'm advocating for one of the most archaic method of internet communication as "Being the most advanced option".

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The Streaming option that came to the Discord requires to view your currently using programs.

Why does Discord need to know what programs I am currently using? Why not just mirror the desktop?

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Or you can connect your **Steam, Youtube, Xbox, Reddit...**accounts to Discord.

None of which I have or use.

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These are the wonderfull innovations that makes chatting and socialising more enjoyable.

While giving Discord the right to snoop through my stuff.

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Also there is an option in the Discord that let's you decide whether you want to improve Discord or not...

Again, pictures. Show me an archive.

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The reason why i'm talking about Steam is because it's relevant to the converation that we're talking right now.

No, it's not. Steam is a DRM platform. It does have some similar features, but it's main purpose is to serve as DRM for the games distributed by Valve and bought through Steam. That's been it's purpose since Day One, and anyone trying to suggest otherwise either doesn't know what they're talking about or are being disingenuous.


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I realised there is a no end to this topic. I deleted all my responses right now. I still can say so so much thing but it won't change your mind in the end. So it's rather a mindless conversation. You didn't even read what you linked me in your 2nd response and still even trying not to read my replies with a seriousness. I can see why @Lorska said:

Don't argue with the dude. Just move on.

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I love MU but I think I speak for most when I say I don't come here for the community, but for the updates database and finding new or forgotten manga. 😅

There are plenty of discord servers dedicated to discussing manga already, from scanlators' own servers to huge servers like r/manga, so I fail to see the point of setting up, maintaining, and promoting a MU discord.

Genuine question - what niche would a MU discord fill that isn't already shared by many other servers?


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Genuine question - what niche would a MU discord fill that isn't already shared by many other servers?

I'm curious about this too


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OP weirdly didn't answer our admit, as he is the one to be convinced, so I´ll point out the big plus and minus of an "official" MU Discord. The real-time chat allows not only audio but also links and data transfer. That how piracy reddits and so on share stuff or it´s location. About piracy links on MU... yeah. We already had site functions reduced over the years and the pics for ants change was extremely recent so let´s not court the devil further and having an "officially unrelated" MU Discord hidden away from the site won´t help the Discord thrive. A catch-22.

I still went with no regardless of that as this can only kill the forums even more.


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Guys, I guess it won't help to MU, MU's forums are already dead if we use some chat programs this forum will be way worse than it.


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