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Battle Royale vs Hunger Games

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9:56 am, Apr 7 2012
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Battle Royale is partly a commentary on the Japanese political situation of the later 1990s:
increasing juvenile delinquency
resulting fear and hatred of young people
the faltering Japanese economy,
the famously strict education system designed to reduce youth to corporate livestock
the history of nationalism and imperialism
etc.

Hunger Games is partly a commentary on the AMERICAN political situation of the later 2000s:
increasing economic inequality and the casual psycopathy of American culture (cf. Bret Easton Ellis for a more adult and explicit examination)
the media, reality TV, the cult of celebrity and martyrdom
technology, surveillance
etc.

This is why Marilyn Manson has a tiny cameo in the film: a major theme of his music is the ruthless competitiveness and violent tone of American society and culture. Like in his music, the US of Hunger Games is a near-feudal, corporatist one, where a decadent minority of 'Beautiful People' callously use and abuse the masses for their own ends.

So it is a bit of a ripoff, but it's cleverly adapted to the American situation and well made. It's just DIFFERENT to BR, not really better or worse. none

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@Pika: Having read both, it's probably a copy to some degree.

If Papa says so... it must be true! ;A;

/admits defeat.

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You are wrong here. I have read both of them and came to conclution that maybe first book HG had some story in it but rest of trilogy was a shit worth. I hope that movie somehow will make it look better but I am expecting the worst none

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Do people who have read Battle Royale read the actual novel or the manga?
I'm guessing the manga, which I've heard sucks in comparison, which is what keeps me from reading it.

ive read the manga and i found it very disappointing, havent tried the novel though

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Have not checked out Battle Royale, but Hunger Games is just plain bad.

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I've read the Battle Royale novel, manga, and have seen the movie. If you've only read the manga, then you haven't read BR. It's a complete disgrace to the novel.
I've also read all of the Hunger Games, and I've seen the latest movie. If you haven't read one, or either of the books your opinion is completely meaningless. Anybody who talks trash about either of them is a fool. They are both great books.

In comparison the two are vastly different. They way it's written, the plot, setting, characters, are entirely different. The tone of the two books are worlds apart.

Moving on, the scope of the Hunger Games is much larger than BR. BR is set primarily on an island and the only information the reader is given is in the dialogue between the characters. It leaves a lot up to the reader to infer about. BR is merely one novel (albeit about six-hundred pages).

BR is a fight to the death and much more to handle psychologically. Not much is spoon fed to the reader and it leaves you to draw your own conclusions. There's also this tone of sadistic humor throughout the book with the near over the top executions of forty-some teenagers. It also more likely than The Hunger Games is symbolic, BR being of the Japanese society at the time.

The Hunger Games is a trilogy. The Hunger Games creates a vast new world for the reader to imagine and sympathize with. It's entirely different than BR and the characters are developed much more and you also get a peek into Katniss' mind.

The comparisons between the two are only drawn because of putting preteens and young adults into a small area to fight to the death. And come on, be realistic. A fight to the death isn't something new, and the books change greatly from The Hunger Games to Catching Fire and to Mockingjay.

They're both great books, and if you haven't already I recommend to anybody to read them both. However The Hunger Games will probably appeal to more people than BR.

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Do people who have read Battle Royale read the actual novel or the manga?
I'm guessing the manga, which I've heard sucks in comparison, which is what keeps me from reading it.

The manga is all right, but the Tokyo Pop translator butchered it by cramming every term he could find on the Urban Dictionary in the story.


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I think it's a little unfair that HG is having such a huge success on what is essentially copied work! I haven't seen it yet so I may be jumping to conclusions...

*Sigh* Haven't even read Hunger Games when you're accusing it of copying Battle Royale? Seriously? \:

Actually, the OP's gut was right. He/she is not the first or last person to draw the comparison. Even if one is darker than the other, they essentially have the same plot: school kids are gathered to fight each other to the death under the government's eyes. The similarities are glaring.

The author of the Hunger Games herself was questioned about Battle Royale, to which she said she had never heard of it before. It was supposedly just a coincidence that she was under pressure to publish a popular novel.

It is frustrating to see a rip-off enjoying greater success than the original, more solid work. What a shame.

Battle Royale will always be the better of the two.

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I dont know anything about the hunger games but i have seen the official trailer for it. it looked like something i wasnt going to enjoy so im probably not going to waste my time seeing that movie. i havent seen the movie battle royale as well but i have seen the trailer. if i had to chose between these 2 movies based on watching the trailer and reading about them both, id have to go with battle royale. they are both similar titles and hardly have any differences. in my opinion i think battle royale has a better story because of how the players in the "death match" are students with guns (wich is a pretty unique concept). it reminds me of the movie "City of God" witch is one of my favorites. in conclusion i think battle royale is better..

you should def get the novel. i think the novel is better then the manga or movie. the novel really put you in the middle of the action and it provides more back story/character development for all of the students witch is pretty dope. its on amazon right now for 11.08 and free shipping, thats were i got my copy

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